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flatluigi
Apr 23, 2008

here come the planes

Mister Kingdom posted:

Norm at his finest.

speaking of norm macdonald, remember this trainwreck of an interview?

https://twitter.com/THR/status/1039547891554164737

quote:

I live in L.A., where I'm always faced with the lunacy of the left. I didn't know that the same lunacy existed on the right. So I never really bought into this notion that everybody is racist — because there was a black president, you know?

quote:

I'm happy the #MeToo movement has slowed down a little bit. It used to be, "One hundred women can't be lying." And then it became, "One woman can't lie." And that became, "I believe all women." And then you're like, "What?"

quote:

Well, Louis [C.K.] and Roseanne [Barr] are the two people I know. And Roseanne was so broken up [after her show's reboot was canceled] that I got Louis to call her, even though Roseanne was very hard on Louis before that. But she was just so broken and just crying constantly. There are very few people that have gone through what they have, losing everything in a day. Of course, people will go, "What about the victims?" But you know what? The victims didn't have to go through that.

more in the link including a bizarre sidetrack into calling Nanette not standup comedy

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RenegadeStyle1
Jun 7, 2005

Baby Come Back
The victims didn't have to go through the consequences of sexually assaulting someone! All they had to go through was getting sexually assaulted.

Torquemada
Oct 21, 2010

Drei Gläser
I preferred this thread when it made me go ‘oof’, rather than wishing multiple people dead per page.

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010


Ignore my posts!
I'm aggressively wrong about everything!
In... well not really less disgusting subjects, but different disgusting subjects, it's interesting to see that the third Yu-Gi-Oh series, 5D's, got derailed by some very sad real-world events at the time.

They were really building up to a cult storyline for the female lead, laying the groundwork pretty early on... only to abruptly stop when it turned out that one of the show's Japanese voice actresses was involved in an actual cult (largely as a victim, but as usual with cults it's murky). It was the sort of news story that was over by the time the news broke as far as I know, it isn't a Smallville situation, but it did lead to that voice actress being replaced, the character being (very obviously) scaled back, and the show's cult storyline just vanishing.

Neither of which really help the show much at all, since the two characters affected are the two main adult female characters, and they clearly struggle to find what to do about that.

Cleretic has a new favorite as of 00:38 on Nov 27, 2020

DeafNote
Jun 4, 2014

Only Happy When It Rains

Cleretic posted:

In... well not really less disgusting subjects, but different disgusting subjects, it's interesting to see that the third Yu-Gi-Oh series, 5D's, got derailed by some very sad real-world events at the time.

They were really building up to a cult storyline for the female lead, laying the groundwork pretty early on... only to abruptly stop when it turned out that one of the show's Japanese voice actresses was involved in an actual cult (largely as a victim, but as usual with cults it's murky). It was the sort of news story that was over by the time the news broke as far as I know, it isn't a Smallville situation, but it did lead to that voice actress being replaced, the character being (very obviously) scaled back, and the show's cult storyline just vanishing.

Neither of which really help the show much at all, since the two characters affected are the two main adult female characters, and they clearly struggle to find what to do about that.

Well that and it didn't help that the cardgame had a new Poochie and his cards to promote.

Kevin DuBrow
Apr 21, 2012

The uruk-hai defender has logged on.
In Degrassi: The Next Generation (2001) one of the main characters is a passionate environmentalist, and one of the episodes is about a campaign she starts in her high school. The cause she champions isn't about reducing its carbon footprint or minimizing waste, it's that she wants the cafeteria to stop serving GMO foods even if it raises the cost of lunch. In the big meeting with the principal, she gives him a tomato to taste. He says it's fine and then she reveals that it has DNA and that there haven't been any studies on what scorpion DNA does to humans.

Later, her stepdad tells her to stop causing trouble and she silences him by asking if he would fine with the new baby eating GM foods :rolleyes:

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010


Ignore my posts!
I'm aggressively wrong about everything!

DeafNote posted:

Well that and it didn't help that the cardgame had a new Poochie and his cards to promote.

Leo was already very much established and being promoted at the time despite him being unlikeable in every way.

Although I think Leo's more of a Scrappy than a Poochie...

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

Cleretic posted:

Leo was already very much established and being promoted at the time despite him being unlikeable in every way.

Although I think Leo's more of a Scrappy than a Poochie...

Talking about Crow and black wings

the_steve
Nov 9, 2005

We're always hiring!

CharlestheHammer posted:

Talking about Crow and black wings

Yeah, I still paid a little bit of attention to the game back at that point, and Blackwing cards were pretty much THE meta. You either ran them, or you lost.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
Funnily enough that has basically zero to do with the anime but the Yu gi oh Anime and TCG have a weirdly separate relationship. Some anime cards are meta but it almost seems random in which ones.

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010


Ignore my posts!
I'm aggressively wrong about everything!

CharlestheHammer posted:

Talking about Crow and black wings

Also actually very established by the time the cult stuff happened, but he did pretty well with the free space left by the rewrites.

Although 5Ds is probably the series most visibly changed by the outside world, and Crow is also an example of that. They actually didn't plan to make him a main character, he was just going to be a minor recurring character who'd end up being one of the villains. But then Blackwings just loving EXPLODED in popularity once they hit the card game (they were that deadly combination of 'competitively viable' and 'cool as poo poo'), so they frantically rewrote him to be one of the main heroes and retconned a Black Wing Dragon into the legendary dragons lineup.

hard counter
Jan 2, 2015





i just want you to know i've been watching columbo lately because of this thread

10/10 so far, the best anime of our generation

Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



Lipstick Apathy

Kevin DuBrow posted:

In Degrassi: The Next Generation (2001) one of the main characters is a passionate environmentalist, and one of the episodes is about a campaign she starts in her high school. The cause she champions isn't about reducing its carbon footprint or minimizing waste, it's that she wants the cafeteria to stop serving GMO foods even if it raises the cost of lunch. In the big meeting with the principal, she gives him a tomato to taste. He says it's fine and then she reveals that it has DNA and that there haven't been any studies on what scorpion DNA does to humans.

Later, her stepdad tells her to stop causing trouble and she silences him by asking if he would fine with the new baby eating GM foods :rolleyes:

I remember back in college coming home drunk from a party my roommates and I all got super hooked on an all night marathon because it was the absolutely most bonkers thing we had ever seen. Started downloading the unedited Canadian episodes.

I stopped when jt got stabbed to death but by then Kevin smith was practically a main character so it had definitely jumped the shark.

Loved the reunion in that drake video though

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?
Eli Stone is a weird show about a high-powered lawyer who starts to get visions from God in the form of musical numbers. It's well-acted and cute and comes to a decent conclusion after two seasons and Victor Garber is in it. But the first episode is about a woman who is convined that a vaccination gave her son autism and the show suggests she's right and that's a heck of a thing. That character and her son stick around too, though as quite minor background people. Ugh.

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

HopperUK posted:

Eli Stone is a weird show about a high-powered lawyer who starts to get visions from God in the form of musical numbers.

this reminded me of Cop Rock, which is in the top tier of weird as hell television shows that immediately aged like milk in a furnace. imagine a police procedural like law and order, but it's also a loving musical. like just what in the gently caress was this show supposed to be? and it's from steven bochco, the guy who made hill street blues, THE show that made gritty realistic cop shows a thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXnWSqKeuvc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWwNTSj2Cy0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaSDc33XX8I

BallisticClipboard
Feb 18, 2013

Such a good worker!


HopperUK posted:

Eli Stone is a weird show about a high-powered lawyer who starts to get visions from God in the form of musical numbers. It's well-acted and cute and comes to a decent conclusion after two seasons and Victor Garber is in it. But the first episode is about a woman who is convined that a vaccination gave her son autism and the show suggests she's right and that's a heck of a thing. That character and her son stick around too, though as quite minor background people. Ugh.

I remembered when it aired that ABC put a disclaimer before the episode saying that there is no known link between vaccines and autism.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

luxury handset posted:

this reminded me of Cop Rock, which is in the top tier of weird as hell television shows that immediately aged like milk in a furnace. imagine a police procedural like law and order, but it's also a loving musical. like just what in the gently caress was this show supposed to be? and it's from steven bochco, the guy who made hill street blues, THE show that made gritty realistic cop shows a thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXnWSqKeuvc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWwNTSj2Cy0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaSDc33XX8I

They spent several minutes interviewing him about that for the 1990s CNN docu, it was a precursor to him producing NYPD Blue but the interview cut between him, scenes of the show, and also Tom Hanks describing it "these gangbangers start rapping in the cell, talking about 'life in the hood aint no pizza pie' like what the hell is going on?"

It's so fun to see Bochco describe how excited everyone was and how it was going to be the future of TV and then episode 1 just loving nosedives in the ratings.

WendyO
Dec 2, 2007
Cop Rock was underappreciated genius.

https://youtu.be/R9puOuTaGPc

Crespolini
Mar 9, 2014

mind the walrus posted:

It's especially frustrating to me because whenever a comedian like Seinfeld or even Chapelle does this it's like "The gently caress do you really care? You made your bones decades ago and got to retire, and as one of the best/most successful in the field you should have seen this sort-of thing coming because it happens literally every few years. Grow up, or at least go enjoy your money without flashing your rear end in a top hat."

Like, Louis CK or Aziz or whomever, them I get. They didn't make their "gently caress you" money quite yet and got burnt. They're doing the dance and playing to the only market that'll still have them. I don't like it, but I get it.

Dunham is definitely in the former camp. Dude should have "Six homes and no one in my extended family has to worry about healthcare or college" money from all his success. Bow out and be thrilled you got away with making money on being a piece of poo poo. Go to bed every night on a mattress filled with money. Why do you insist on going that extra mile to be a wankstain?

Well, can't you imagine enjoying what you do, and wanting to keep doing it? Even though you're not forced to for economic reason?

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

Crespolini posted:

Well, can't you imagine enjoying what you do, and wanting to keep doing it? Even though you're not forced to for economic reason?

Seinfeld looks like he hasn't enjoyed anything in 15 years.

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Who What Now posted:

Seinfeld looks like he hasn't enjoyed anything in 15 years.

He turned up in the first episode of the new netflix show Aunty Donna's Big Ol House of Fun and looked like he had a good time, at least

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Barry Foster posted:

He turned up in the first episode of the new netflix show Aunty Donna's Big Ol House of Fun and looked like he had a good time, at least
:hmmyes:

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

I've been here the whole time, and you're not my real Dad! :emo:
Wait, did they drum on his penis too?

RC and Moon Pie
May 5, 2011

The Beach Boys' Good to My Baby, which was very sincere.

quote:

They think I'm bad and I treat her so mean
But all they know is from what they've seen
And when I get her alone now
You know we're happy as a couple could be
And when I give her my love it's between her and me

This was from their All-American surfing boy days, barely a year before Pet Sounds.

Sorta similar to Lou Christie's Lightnin' Strikes, a giant red flag of a song. It includes this bit:

quote:

When I see lips beggin' to be kissed
I can't stop, I can't stop myself
Lightning is striking again
Lightning is striking again
Nature's takin' over my one-track mind
Believe it or not, you're in my heart all the time
All the girls are sayin' that you'll end up a fool
For the time being, baby, live by my rules
When I settle down
I want one baby on my mind
Forgive and forget
And I'll make up for all lost time

Also from 1965.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

.
Great songs, but you forgot the best misogynistic song from the 60's:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHcR648Cg3I

Happens to be the best Rolling Stones song as well.

Mooseontheloose
May 13, 2003

Who What Now posted:

Seinfeld looks like he hasn't enjoyed anything in 15 years.

That's unfair, Jerry Seinfeld waits until things age 18 years.

Eh! Frank
Mar 28, 2006

Doctor gave me these, I said what are these?
He said that they'll cure an existential type disease

RC and Moon Pie posted:


Sorta similar to Lou Christie's Lightnin' Strikes, a giant red flag of a song.

On the other hand...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gma5IUNMTn0

bobjr
Oct 16, 2012

Roose is loose.
🐓🐓🐓✊🪧

One trend I noticed you don't see as much now is "Unrated" special editions of movies, where when they were released on DVD with an extra boob or someone yelling gently caress a few more times, and it would be advertised as "The version too hot for theaters"

the_steve
Nov 9, 2005

We're always hiring!

bobjr posted:

One trend I noticed you don't see as much now is "Unrated" special editions of movies, where when they were released on DVD with an extra boob or someone yelling gently caress a few more times, and it would be advertised as "The version too hot for theaters"

I think it's just because it's become so ingrained. You know you're going to get the deleted scenes and whatever else. They're no longer options, they're standard.

Plus, I think that was more of a "We need you to buy this instead of/in addition to the VHS" thing, which obviously isn't an issue anymore.

Shiroc
May 16, 2009

Sorry I'm late
The 'Unrated' version thing was much deeper into the DVD era than just a bonus feature. I think the things that killed it were that people buy less DVDs in general and that the kind of raunchy PG-13/R rated comedy isn't as common anymore (theatrically anyway). Stuff like Wedding Crashers, which had an unrated version that swapped out all of the montage footage of all of the women they were hooking up with from wearing bras to topless versions in the beginning.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Also, internet porn.

hyperhazard
Dec 4, 2011

I am the one lascivious
With magic potion niveous

Shiroc posted:

The 'Unrated' version thing was much deeper into the DVD era than just a bonus feature. I think the things that killed it were that people buy less DVDs in general and that the kind of raunchy PG-13/R rated comedy isn't as common anymore (theatrically anyway). Stuff like Wedding Crashers, which had an unrated version that swapped out all of the montage footage of all of the women they were hooking up with from wearing bras to topless versions in the beginning.

15 years later, and I'm just now realizing the naked women weren't in the original version. I'm pretty sure I borrowed the DVD from my parents, and they'd absolutely buy the unrated by mistake and never realize it. They're the kind of people who thought Monkey Bone would be a fun kid's movie because it had a cartoon monkey, which led to an awkward family movie night
with my grandparents.

Torquemada
Oct 21, 2010

Drei Gläser

Solice Kirsk posted:

Great songs, but you forgot the best misogynistic song from the 60's:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHcR648Cg3I

Happens to be the best Rolling Stones song as well.

Coercive control vs murder

quote:


Well, I'd rather see you dead, little girl
Than to be with another man
You better keep your head, little girl
Or I won't know where I am

You better run for your life if you can, little girl
Hide your head in the sand, little girl
Catch you with another man
That's the end, little girl

Well, you know that I'm a wicked guy
And I was born with a jealous mind
And I can't spend my whole life
Trying just to make you toe the line


You better run for your life if you can, little girl
Hide your head in the sand, little girl
Catch you with another man
That's the end, little girl

Let this be a sermon
I mean everything I've said
Baby, I'm determined
And I'd rather see you dead

You better run for your life if you can, little girl
Hide your head in the sand, little girl
Catch you with another man
That's the end, little girl

I'd rather see you dead, little girl
Than to be with another man
You better keep your head, little girl
Or you won't know where I am

You better run for your life if you can, little girl
Hide your head in the sand, little girl
Catch you with another man
That's the end, little girl

John Lennon ain’t got time for that under the thumb poo poo, he’ll straight up kill a bitch.

Hedenius
Aug 23, 2007

DeafNote posted:

I am gonna have to toot my own country's horn here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnsP1zhpNxE
Go toot your own dick because this sucks.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Shiroc posted:

The 'Unrated' version thing was much deeper into the DVD era than just a bonus feature. I think the things that killed it were that people buy less DVDs in general and that the kind of raunchy PG-13/R rated comedy isn't as common anymore (theatrically anyway). Stuff like Wedding Crashers, which had an unrated version that swapped out all of the montage footage of all of the women they were hooking up with from wearing bras to topless versions in the beginning.

Nine times out of ten, it was just a couple of alternate takes that worked better in the rated version. I think the only unrated version that actually did anything interesting was Sex Drive where they superimposed a bunch of naked men and women over scenes.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


IIRC the unrated version of Walk Hard added more male nudity.

Baba Yaga Fanboy
May 18, 2011

Iron Crowned posted:

Nine times out of ten, it was just a couple of alternate takes that worked better in the rated version. I think the only unrated version that actually did anything interesting was Sex Drive where they superimposed a bunch of naked men and women over scenes.

Yeah, Sex Drive really went balls-to-the-wall with the unrated cut, figuratively and literally. There'd randomly be shots where a character was running along and a giant dude and his flopping dong get superimposed over him. I like that silly rear end movie.

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

What did you say the strategy was?

muscles like this! posted:

IIRC the unrated version of Walk Hard added more male nudity.

Is walk hard the one where a guy is on the phone sitting down and another guy walks into the shot so you can only see his dick and a massive ballsack and it isn't commented on or reacted to at all?

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Yes

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lavaca
Jun 11, 2010
In college I was a fan of pretentious European art movies. However, the only nearby place to rent DVDs got the edited versions that would cut out all the good parts. The Piano Teacher is a particularly surreal movie when you only see the reaction to the bathroom scene. Sex and Lucia without the sex scenes is effectively a parody of itself. I don't miss that era.

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