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Supradog posted:Oxfords hotgrips premium series works good. They got a good bit of cable length since they're universal, but no big hassle to trim and rejoin. Their included glue is crap, use anything else. My clutch hand grip started to wear down to the heated elements a bit after 40k miles on my transalp. Seconding oxfords, got em for a second time. My KTM; one of the grips also wore down to the heating element but yeah it takes a WHILE. Edit: adding that I also had the bikemaster set on my DRZ and they were poo poo. Could only feel them on the highest setting, and barely. Revvik fucked around with this message at 10:34 on Nov 27, 2020 |
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ImplicitAssembler posted:Yeah, I like the Triumph. Oxfords are generally considered the best, but they have an ugly external control unit. (There’s also a rumour that the UK market ones get hotter than the exports) Koso/Daytona make grips with an integrated controller, they do not get as hot as the oxfords. A few people here have said the grips wear out quickly. Yamaha also make an integrated controller but I have no experience with them. I suspect everything else is garbage.
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Sir Not Appearing posted:My other bike is this turd. 1991 EX500 with 2008 EX250 swingarm, forks (also loaded with Racetech goodies) and wheels. Oh, and some homemade high-mounts that a student of mine welded up for me.
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Thirding or fourthing Oxfords.
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Yuns posted:Maybe it's an optical illusion because of the lack of fairing but the gap between the front wheel and front of the bike makes the trail look super long and slow turning. I think the missing fairing amplifies it a bit, but yeah, the rake and trail are a cruiser-ish 27°/3.9". I'm not exactly sure what my actual setup measures out as, but both iterations have the rear raised 1.5“ by shorter dogbones, and when I redid it with the fairing and "new" suspension, the front end is about 3/8" lower by sliding the forks up in the trees. 
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Yuns posted:Maybe it's an optical illusion because of the lack of fairing but the gap between the front wheel and front of the bike makes the trail look super long and slow turning. Uh yeah don't look at basically any bike from before 1990. Before radial tyres, trail braking wasn't a thing, aggressively using the front tire wasn't a thing. Instead the emphasis was on stability that let you enter corners as quickly as possible, using fast but orthodox lines. All the sporty fast bikes were very long and low as there was no value in having a tall, pitchy, stubby bike like today because that simply wasn't the way to get the most out of the tyres.
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Slavvy posted:Uh yeah don't look at basically any bike from before 1990.
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I have a pair of Oxford Premium Heated Grips, new in box. I phoned my local mechanic to ask if he could put them on the Fat Bob. Here is his response: "...With regards the grips. It seems that the Oxford grips are not suitable for the Flyby wire throttle set up. Again I would speak to the dealer. They should be able to advise. Sorry I can’t help you this time." Phoned up Harley, they've got literally one pair of their own heated grips, and that's it, they're all out of stock otherwise and next stock is coming in maaaaybe February. The pair they have in stock are the bog standard rubber heated grips by Harley, with the controller at the end of the left grip:  They're £216.85, and the labour to install them is an additional £196.80! Sigh, gently caress it, do it, it's not like I am comfortable without them and I don't want to just have it sit unridden till May or something.
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Steakandchips posted:I have a pair of Oxford Premium Heated Grips, new in box. I phoned my local mechanic to ask if he could put them on the Fat Bob. Those grips are $209 here in the US. It almost looks like someone just flipped the currency symbol and said "good enough"
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Deeters posted:Those grips are $209 here in the US. It almost looks like someone just flipped the currency symbol and said "good enough" That's normal.
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Steakandchips posted:I have a pair of Oxford Premium Heated Grips, new in box. I phoned my local mechanic to ask if he could put them on the Fat Bob. FBW throttle isn't the problem, it's that those oxford grips will be for a normal 22mm bar, not a 3/4" Harley fat bar.
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Slavvy posted:FBW throttle isn't the problem, it's that those oxford grips will be for a normal 22mm bar, not a 3/4" Harley fat bar. Oxford make grips for fat bars, but they specifically say “not for Harley FBW throttles”
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Thanks guys, it's booked in for next week now so it's all good. Silly question: I cleaned the bike last week, and put rust proofer on it. Went for a ride yesterday. It's now a bit muddy and gross. It's going to Harley for the grips attachment next week, as well as them putting some leads (USB, heated jacket lead) to the battery, and the rear brake being mushy. Since it's going to Harley, I don't have to bother cleaning it for this week and it'll come back nice and clean and shiny, right? 
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 it'll actually come back dirtier, covered in dust from how long it sat around waiting to be worked on while the Harley spanners just sat around talking about nothing
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Supradog posted:Oxfords hotgrips premium series works good. They got a good bit of cable length since they're universal, but no big hassle to trim and rejoin. Their included glue is crap, use anything else. My clutch hand grip started to wear down to the heated elements a bit after 40k miles on my transalp.
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Horse Clocks posted:Oxford make grips for fat bars, but they specifically say “not for Harley FBW throttles” Ok now I'm intrigued, I can't understand what kind of difference it would make. The throttle tube is a throttle tube whether it's a cable or a sensor on the other end.
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Can you even call yourself a Harley owner if you don't spend more time polishing it than riding it
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Finally had a warm enough day to wash the bike. I’m probably not supposed to like material things this much. Oh well.
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I say this every time you post it but Yamaha really nailed the perfect front-end look on those bikes. Just looks gorgeous.
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Rolo posted:Finally had a warm enough day to wash the bike. Buddy we all get a little Travis-y for our bikes every now and again.
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Slavvy posted:Ok now I'm intrigued, I can't understand what kind of difference it would make. The throttle tube is a throttle tube whether it's a cable or a sensor on the other end. I haven't taken apart any bikes with FBW throttles, but it looks like Harley put their sensor on the end of the handlebar and other brands did not. https://www.harley-davidson.com/us/en/shop/Twist-Grip-Sensor/p/32310-08A So I'm guessing there's teeth inside the end of the throttle tube to mate with that.
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Deeters posted:I haven't taken apart any bikes with FBW throttles, but it looks like Harley put their sensor on the end of the handlebar and other brands did not. https://www.harley-davidson.com/us/en/shop/Twist-Grip-Sensor/p/32310-08A Right, I see. I can see why they've done it but that is an irritating setup with an alarming possiblity of jamming if you drop the bike on the right.
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wouldn't you have to drop the average harley really drat hard to get the bar ends to touch down?
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You'd struggle to find a Harley where the bar doesn't touch down, they're relatively skinny bikes with huge bars.
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Rode for the first time in several weeks yesterday. Had to replace my flasher and ran into some PO wiring issues, but it's back and after a little Italian tune up, running awesome! Now I just need better gloves! 
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So I picked up my 3rd and 4th Motorcycles of the Year. Let me know what you all think    These projects are going to be so easy I guarantee it.
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DID YOU KNOW bmw is a famous white supremacist bramd?!?! Really those rule, you're in for some trauma.
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Is that the missing cylinder from the R100S down by your foot in the second picture?
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Do those spark plug leads just go into the engine?
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part them out on ebay
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Rolo posted:Do those spark plug leads just go into the engine? Genuinely wondering what you think is going on in that picture...
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Rolo posted:Do those spark plug leads just go into the engine?
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Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:Almost all of the electrics on the bike are hidden under the front cover so yes. It also has no fuses, just a single self- resetting breaker on the [mechanical] voltage regulator. That's an R69 or R69S, those are pretty desirable bikes even among old BMWs. No they are not nazi bikes, although they were probably made by former nazis, as they were produced from 1955-69. The other bike is decent too, although those rotating caliper brakes suck. Is this better or worse than a board of completely exposed ceramic fuses inside the headlight bucket?
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I hope crappy videos are kosher! https://youtu.be/mjHiDgIsvZc
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Slavvy posted:Is this better or worse than a board of completely exposed ceramic fuses inside the headlight bucket?
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Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:It's not as bad as the cable operated hydraulic disc brake? Old bikes 
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It’s bizarre how before a certain year, motorcycles were mechanically nearly unrecognizable compared to modern bikes. Then after a certain time in the 60’s the modern motorcycle crystalized and literally hasn’t changed since. Yeah, the metallurgy got better, fueling improved, electrics got more reliable and the individual parts were improved over time but a first year CB750 is basically the exact same bike from a purely functional engineering standpoint as a 2021 CB1100 Like you look at a motorcycle from the 30’s or 40’s and it’s nearly unrecognizable from a modern technology standpoint. The transition of motorcycles in the 60’s is basically like the transition from the strange gas powered horseless carriages we used to have into the model T, which cast the die for all future cars. Beve Stuscemi fucked around with this message at 16:23 on Dec 4, 2020 |
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To be fair, cars have actually changed quite a lot since the model T in engineering terms. There's still 4 wheels with passengers in the middle, but almost nothing else is the same.
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The only-ever issue of Motorcyclist's "Classic Motorcyclist" feature article was Honda USA's chief reminiscing about the conception and creation of the CB750. Soichiro Honda decided to make a motorcycle that would be known as "King of Motorcycles." Honda engineered reliability by sending the prototypes to Nevada, where dudes would ride them as hard as possible all day long all summer long, and the engineers would spend all night tearing them down and inspecting them for wear and failure, putting them back together for the next day's riding.
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