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Jeb Bush 2012 posted:if you use joints instead you can count in hex! Explain. I'm guessing the tips count along with the joints?
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Nov 25, 2020 20:10
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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cheetah7071 posted:That said, many languages show linguistic remnants of a previous base-20 system, meaning that the language can adapt. It'd just be a giant pain. 'Four score and seven years ago' 
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Nov 25, 2020 20:11
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JustaDamnFool posted:If the superior calendar had not been torn down by heartless reactionaries, today would be quintidi 5 Frimaire; celebrating the noble pig. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mfw9ZcrEum0
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Nov 25, 2020 20:14
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I'm just saying my complete inability to count in french has convinced me that trying to teach an average person to count in different bases is nearly impossible.
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Nov 25, 2020 20:21
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PittTheElder posted:Explain. I'm guessing the tips count along with the joints? right. you could also count on segments but use the bit of your palm just below each finger as a segment cheetah7071 posted:16 is even worse than 10 if you're not a computer being able to divide by powers of 2 easily is great and the only disadvantage is having a slightly larger number of numerals to learn
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Nov 25, 2020 20:46
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uJsoZheTR4 There's some neat patterns that you can see when you plot out the multiplication table for base 12 that might make things easier to learn if that was your native base. I used to do stuff like this a lot when I was bored to kill time. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 2 4 6 8 A 10 12 3 6 9 10 13 16 19 4 8 10 14 18 20 24 5 A 13 18 21 26 2B 6 10 16 20 26 30 36 7 12 19 24 2B 36 41 8 14 20 28 34 40 48 9 16 23 30 39 46 53 A 18 26 34 43 50 5A B 1A 29 38 48 56 65 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 There's also the fact that 6 is about the limit of the amount of things in a group that people can easily tell the number of in a group, so if you see that there's more than you can count on a glance, then if you just draw a line in the middle of the things you're counting, you can pretty quickly tell the amounts. cheetah7071 posted:At this point we've been using base 10 for so long that every major language has base-10 number words and as much as I love 12 a switch probably ain't happening. That said, many languages show linguistic remnants of a previous base-20 system, meaning that the language can adapt. It'd just be a giant pain. That's not really accurate to the description of language. Not even english is really definitively base 10, our language is kinda screwy until 20, and it's not hard to imagine mixing things around so you count tenteen and eleventeen and then through the later numbers count twenty nine, twenty ten, twenty eleven, thirty. Eleven may have a weird rhythm when counting, but so does 7. And then french is naturally base 20, there's probably a lot more but I don't know much language. There are some bodypart counting systems that go way past 20. Roman numerals aren't really a base, but are mainly built around denoting measures of 5, but then there were also a lot of people who used greek numerals in the ancient world, and a lot of calculations were done with the abacus, that I don't really understand.
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Nov 25, 2020 20:47
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Jeb Bush 2012 posted:if you use joints instead you can count in hex!  Oh poo poo, that is really cool. Never thought of it. And 256 on both hands.
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Nov 25, 2020 21:13
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If you want to count really big numbers, counting in binary on both hands will take you all the way to 1023.
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Nov 25, 2020 22:11
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Mayan numerals use base 20.
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Nov 25, 2020 22:49
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cheetah7071 posted:365 has annoyingly few factors--73*5. So if you want to break down the year in an intelligent way you need like 5 months of 73 days each. Or maybe 73 5-day weeks and don't bother with months at all. And that's not even touching on leap year. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Fixed_Calendar 13 months of 28 days, plus one "Year Day" (or two for Leap Years) Weekdays are consistent through months, which is pretty neat.
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Nov 25, 2020 22:50
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sebzilla posted:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Fixed_Calendar so if you abolish friday the 13th but add an entire 13th month, does the year as a whole become more or less unlucky numerologists please advise
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Nov 25, 2020 22:53
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Jeb Bush 2012 posted:
Hang on, I gotta go buy a chicken for this one
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Nov 25, 2020 22:57
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AFashionableHat posted:Hang on, I gotta go buy a chicken for this one *rolls eyes *hoofs off to Delphi with gold tripod
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Nov 26, 2020 01:19
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sebzilla posted:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Fixed_Calendar ...I kinda wish this happened, cast down the lunar months with their false gods
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Nov 26, 2020 04:35
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sebzilla posted:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Fixed_Calendar This is a good rear end calendar, except maybe the part about one of the extra days being Christmas instead of just New Years Day or whatevs.
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Nov 26, 2020 04:47
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sebzilla posted:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Fixed_Calendar Not so neat for the poor schmucks whose birthday always falls on a Wednesday.
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Nov 26, 2020 07:19
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The problem with the meter is that it's infuriatingly sloppy. Like first they defined a meter as exactly one forty millionth of the circumference around the earth, but hosed it up because they got their measurements wrong so the planet is too big, and there isn't a great circle that's actually 40Mm anywhere on Earth. Then they defined it based on the speed of light, but were unwilling to just bite the bullet and make it a nice, proper, scientific ratio, so once more the number is irritatingly close to being even, but not quite right. We need to add some leap meters per second, and dig a loving trench.
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Nov 26, 2020 08:11
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PittTheElder posted:If you want to count really big numbers, counting in binary on both hands will take you all the way to 1023. If you count in binary using the joints on both hands you can go all the way up to 65,535
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Nov 26, 2020 08:12
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Fuschia tude posted:If you count in binary using the joints on both hands you can go all the way up to 65,535 This works with finger counting (up to 1024), since you can raise or lower fingers to set the bits, but how do you remember which bits are set on finger joints?
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Nov 26, 2020 08:32
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Lead out in cuffs posted:This works with finger counting (up to 1024), since you can raise or lower fingers to set the bits, but how do you remember which bits are set on finger joints? no rings
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Nov 26, 2020 08:34
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Elissimpark posted:*rolls eyes We can't all be centaurs or satyrs.
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Nov 26, 2020 09:22
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Imagine if they just designed the meter so that the earth's gravitational pull was about 10 m/s.
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Nov 26, 2020 15:55
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SlothfulCobra posted:Imagine if they just designed the meter so that the earth's gravitational pull was about 10 m/s. they would have made it a round number using metric seconds though
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Nov 26, 2020 21:55
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sullat posted:Maybe, I think I got the Scythians and Spartans confused. I think it's xenophon. And it was for old infertile or gay men. You had to find a hottie for your wife if you could not do it yourself.
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Nov 27, 2020 01:05
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the JJ posted:I think it's xenophon. And it was for old infertile or gay men. You had to find a hottie for your wife if you could not do it yourself. Ah, found the quote: Xenophon, Spartan Society posted:He observed, however, that where an old man happened to have a young wife, he tended to keep a very jealous watch on her. So he planned to prevent this too, by arranging that for the production of children the elderly husband should introduce to his wife any man whose physique and personality he admired. Further, should a man not wish to be married, but still be eager to have remarkable children, Lycurgus also made it lawful for him to have children by any fertile and well-bred woman who came to his attention, subject to her husband's consent. And he would approve many such arrangements. For the women want to have two households, while the men want to acquire for their sons brothers who would form part of the family and its influence, but would have no claim on the estate. I think there's a similar passage in Plutarch too, though. Edit: Found it! Plutarch, Life of Lycurgus 16 posted:6 After giving marriage such traits of reserve and decorum, he none the less freed men from the empty and womanish passion of jealous possession, by making it honourable for them, while keeping the marriage relation free from all wanton irregularities, to share with other worthy men in the begetting of children, laughing to scorn those who regard such common privileges as intolerable, and resort to murder and war rather than grant them. 7 For example, an elderly man with a young wife, if he looked with favour and esteem on some fair and noble young man, might introduce him to her, and adopt her offspring by such a noble father as his own. And again, a worthy man who admired some woman for the fine children that she bore her husband and the modesty of her behaviour as a wife, might enjoy her favours, if her husband would consent, thus planting, as it were, in a soil of bountiful fruitage, and begetting for himself noble sons, who would have the blood of noble men in their veins. I believe there are also some passages suggesting that outright Tibetan-style fraternal polyandry was sometimes practiced in Sparta. Silver2195 fucked around with this message at 03:10 on Nov 27, 2020 |
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Nov 27, 2020 03:02
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Tunicate posted:The problem with the meter is that it's infuriatingly sloppy. There was actually a meter rod Iirc
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Nov 27, 2020 05:03
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Silver2195 posted:I believe there are also some passages suggesting that outright Tibetan-style fraternal polyandry was sometimes practiced in Sparta. I'm suffering from insomnia right now and I'm really enjoying the phrase "Tibetan-style fraternal polyandry"
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Nov 27, 2020 05:24
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euphronius posted:There was actually a meter rod Iirc yeah they originally had it based on the earth, got that measurement wrong, then built a rod based on that measurement because it's unwieldy to carry around a reference planet
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Nov 27, 2020 05:30
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Another reason to go back to the cubit! *holds up bag of severed forearms
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Nov 27, 2020 05:45
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Tunicate posted:yeah they originally had it based on the earth, got that measurement wrong, then built a rod based on that measurement because it's unwieldy to carry around a reference planet Those people sorely in need of education re: levers
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Nov 27, 2020 06:41
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PittTheElder posted:Those people sorely in need of education re: levers Levers are easy, but fixed points are hard to find.
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Nov 27, 2020 07:12
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Elissimpark posted:Another reason to go back to the cubit! The city I used to live in actually had an "official" length of a cubit engraved into a plaque and set into a wall around the marketplace. No doubt because people kept arguing whose forearm should be the definitive one. 
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Nov 27, 2020 14:56
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I was trying to remember where the cubit was allegedly based on the monarch's arm, so I went to Wikipedia. My god, so many different official lengths depending where and when you are! And I thought the different volumes of "cup" were annoying.
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Nov 27, 2020 17:52
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Elissimpark posted:I was trying to remember where the cubit was allegedly based on the monarch's arm, so I went to Wikipedia. A cup isn't always 250ml?
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Nov 27, 2020 18:39
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Nope, American cups are 240ml and I think Japan has a 180ml or 200ml cup. It's not huge, but can gently caress up some recipes if you're not careful.
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Nov 27, 2020 22:04
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https://twitter.com/CSMFHT/status/1332400344974802944
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Nov 27, 2020 22:25
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If you want to gently caress up your YouTube recommendations permentantly, can I recommend having an interest in history.
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Nov 27, 2020 22:29
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You can unfuck your recommendations by clicking the three dots on the recommended video and telling youtube not to recommend things like that
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Nov 27, 2020 22:30
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Elissimpark posted:Nope, American cups are 240ml and I think Japan has a 180ml or 200ml cup. Seriously, how much do scales cost? Less than the ingredients of one meal. cheetah7071 posted:You can unfuck your recommendations by clicking the three dots on the recommended video and telling youtube not to recommend things like that Thank you.
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Mr Enderby posted:Seriously, how much do scales cost? Less than the ingredients of one meal. Yes, well. Ideally all recipes would use weights, but they often don't. And if someone in Australia decides to make an American recipe that uses cups, they're likely going to be using the wrong cup unit.
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