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Super.Jesus posted:According to the legend, awoxer spy's name was Third Imposter. It's a good name, just not as good as DBRB's "Awox McShootBlues"
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Nov 27, 2020 14:33
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MaxPowers posted:@ccp so for the drone thing. I dont think you're doing enough. Rats should prioritize drones that are sitting still. You know for when they are done shooting their target THEY CAN GET ABSOLUTELY OBLITERATED while they sit there for five loving seconds while your lovely code responds to pressing f on the next target. I don't rat anymore but get hosed, don't give them stupid loving ideas
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Nov 27, 2020 14:57
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Welcome back Soban, good to see you hope things are well
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Nov 27, 2020 15:57
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Thinking on it, CCP really did do something funny. They added ESS -- a way to steal money from ratters. Then, they nerfed the best way to rat.  Also lol at the titan + rev gank
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Nov 27, 2020 16:11
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I bought my first capital, a Thanatos! Gallente is best. Will be able to fly it in a month, so hyped to get on those elite gatecamp ops and break my wrist from fighter micromanagement. I should test this thing out on the test server before I actually undock it, right?
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Nov 27, 2020 17:01
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Nov 27, 2020 17:12
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lovely tuna snatch posted:I bought my first capital, a Thanatos! Gallente is best. Will be able to fly it in a month, so hyped to get on those elite gatecamp ops and break my wrist from fighter micromanagement. yes. 100% yes. make sure you understand how fighters work and how to use Q to control them. Also make sure you understand how to select only your ship and then only your fighters. Thanatos is good because it's a nice mix of dps and tank. you're gonna die first in a fight but it's a carrier, so nbd. I've become obsessed with the neuting archon lately. really fun to get in close to enemy triage and just render them unusable.
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Nov 27, 2020 17:13
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lovely tuna snatch posted:I bought my first capital, a Thanatos! Gallente is best. Will be able to fly it in a month, so hyped to get on those elite gatecamp ops and break my wrist from fighter micromanagement.  Gallente is best. You'll be in a Nyx in no time
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Nov 27, 2020 17:16
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Zazz Razzamatazz posted:Do people still buy characters? yeah, the character Bazzar on the forums is still pretty active last I checked edit - https://forums.eveonline.com/t/welcome-to-the-character-bazaar/71 captainclaw fucked around with this message at 17:25 on Nov 27, 2020 |
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Nov 27, 2020 17:18
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:Thinking on it, CCP really did do something funny. They added ESS -- a way to steal money from ratters. Then, they nerfed the best way to rat. I am 100% convinced their goal is to get ppl to say "gently caress it I'll buy a plex"
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Nov 27, 2020 17:20
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Dalael posted:I am 100% convinced their goal is to get ppl to say "gently caress it I'll buy a plex" This and probably trying desperately to combat bots. For some reason they probably think active ratting will stop the bots but in reality its not a very difficult code change.
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Nov 27, 2020 17:41
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Dalael posted:I am 100% convinced their goal is to get ppl to say "gently caress it I'll buy a plex" you might not be wrong with that to be honest. Do you think the loss of people who leave versus the amount of people who say "gently caress it I'll plex" make their decisions worth it in the long run?
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Nov 27, 2020 17:41
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captainclaw posted:you might not be wrong with that to be honest. Do you think the loss of people who leave versus the amount of people who say "gently caress it I'll plex" make their decisions worth it in the long run? Free to play devs are not known for their 10th dimensional chess strategies.
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Nov 27, 2020 17:50
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Nosthula posted:This and probably trying desperately to combat bots. For some reason they probably think active ratting will stop the bots but in reality its not a very difficult code change. If the aim of the change was to combat bots, this is about the dumbest way to go about it. Bots don't need auto-aggressive drones to work -- they can be programmed to push F.
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Nov 27, 2020 17:54
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lmao at even thinking that ccp fights bots
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Nov 27, 2020 17:56
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Are the servers constantly dropping for anyone else or is Black Friday online shopping nuking the internet overall
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Nov 27, 2020 18:18
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captainclaw posted:you might not be wrong with that to be honest. Do you think the loss of people who leave versus the amount of people who say "gently caress it I'll plex" make their decisions worth it in the long run? I doubt it. Eve isn't that fun tbh and is very tedious (even with the QoL updates over the years) so I think a lot of people will quit. Just doesn't seem worth it anymore when their "updates" are more about making it harder to make isk than they are about fixing anything.
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Nov 27, 2020 18:41
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Dalael posted:I doubt it. Eve isn't that fun tbh and is very tedious (even with the QoL updates over the years) so I think a lot of people will quit. Just doesn't seem worth it anymore when their "updates" are more about making it harder to make isk than they are about fixing anything. Someone mentioned recently that it's like boiling a frog. In this case, the frog has lots of people he's known for years in the water so he's pretty reluctant to leave it. By gradually introducing these "updates" they're gambling enough frogs will slowly slip into paying for more Plex over time that they'll be able to make bank without all the frogs loving off to better video games instead.
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Nov 27, 2020 19:14
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Severing posted:Someone mentioned recently that it's like boiling a frog. In this case, the frog has lots of people he's known for years in the water so he's pretty reluctant to leave it. By gradually introducing these "updates" they're gambling enough frogs will slowly slip into paying for more Plex over time that they'll be able to make bank without all the frogs loving off to better video games instead. that analogy is the best thing I've read today, and feels pretty spot on to the recent changes that CCP have thrown out in the last 2 years
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Nov 27, 2020 19:20
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We're going to see a mass exodus of players after this war concludes. CCP keeps taking away reasons to play this game, beyond the community that people have built based more or less on EVE - and the community is tired of their bullshit.
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Nov 27, 2020 19:27
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The thing that really makes it hard to leave Eve is that there’s no other game that manages to scratch all the itches it does all in one. Factorio and to an extent minecraft scratch the build and explore itches, but not the pvp. Rite captures the space trucking but not really the sense of risk. Tarkov captures the perma loss and the high risk but also runs like poo poo
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Nov 27, 2020 19:42
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captainclaw posted:that analogy is the best thing I've read today, and feels pretty spot on to the recent changes that CCP have thrown out in the last 2 years I mean, why play when you can buy skillpoints directly from ccp now?
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Nov 27, 2020 20:08
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FAT32 SHAMER posted:The thing that really makes it hard to leave Eve is that there’s no other game that manages to scratch all the itches it does all in one. Factorio and to an extent minecraft scratch the build and explore itches, but not the pvp. Rite captures the space trucking but not really the sense of risk. Tarkov also has Devs who think making everything harder all the time and introducing unbearable mechanics are good things.
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Nov 27, 2020 20:08
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Erulisse posted:I mean, why play when you can buy skillpoints directly from ccp now? I mean, honestly? I went two years paying for an account I only ever “played” by logging in and updating my skill queue. Not sure having the ability to buy skill points directly from CCP makes much difference in someone’s desire to actually play the game. Also, CCP needs to hire an economist again. It’s pretty clear Hilmar is the Icelandic version of Trump and has no loving clue what he’s doing.
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Nov 27, 2020 20:37
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Hello goon friends I just started back puttering around in eve. I had an older eve account in GoonFleet about... 13 years ago I think. I am interested in joining a corp so it's not so lonely in space. I am not super interested in a lot of PVP, I just really like PVE and especially exploration. I feel like back in the day there was some special casual goon corp, which is what I'm interested in. Is that still a thing? If not, is it OK to be casual in GoonWaffe?
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Nov 27, 2020 20:41
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Propagandist posted:Hello goon friends As long as you meet the social activity requirement - that is, you log into jabber or mumble 1-2 times a month - you can basically just ride bikes.
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Nov 27, 2020 20:49
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ZombieLenin posted:It’s pretty clear Hilmar is the Icelandic version of Trump and has no loving clue what he’s doing.  Sorry couldn't resist ZombieLenin posted:Not sure having the ability to buy skill points directly from CCP makes much difference in someone’s desire to actually play the game. I don't care that people can buy skill points, it was actually really handy for me when I came back to the game after nuking my character and giving it all to an old corp member back when extractors were introduced. I think it's more the issue surrounding "meh, I'll just buy a plex instead of ratting", and after the ore changes "I'll just plex instead of mining". Both will reduce people in space, PVE and small gang PVP (no one to hunt so why bother). Which leaves the big blocks going at each other until the stores run out, because no ones out making more cause it's easier to plex. I just don't think they thought about it and just went "this sounds like a good idea" But, then again, I'm just 1 person looking at this from my perspective and could be horribly wrong
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Nov 27, 2020 20:56
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i'm totally ok with the ability to buy sell and trade SP, whether it comes from CCP or a player. i shouldn't have to train for a year to be able to hop into a ship if i want to fly it. i'm super not ok with being able to purchase ships from CCP nor am i ok with in-game activities that make money being nerfed into the ground
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Nov 27, 2020 21:08
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captainclaw posted:
There are a lot of indicators which would precipitate us heading for that kind of an input-based economic collapse - some of them aren't looking too hot right now, but it doesn't look like a nightmare scenario. Yet.
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Nov 27, 2020 22:18
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Baculus posted:Yet. What, you're not optimistic about the future of EVE? 
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Nov 27, 2020 22:49
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FAT32 SHAMER posted:i'm totally ok with the ability to buy sell and trade SP, whether it comes from CCP or a player. i shouldn't have to train for a year to be able to hop into a ship if i want to fly it.
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Nov 27, 2020 23:33
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:Thinking on it, CCP really did do something funny. They added ESS -- a way to steal money from ratters. Then, they nerfed the best way to rat. It's going to make life harder for Krabs as well as hunters. More so the hunters- firstly there will be fewer people ratting. Second the change forces players to be awake at the keyboard as they mash F over and over- you'll never catch an afk ratter, they'll be ready to run the moment that ship lands from warp.
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Nov 27, 2020 23:56
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Wibla posted:What, you're not optimistic about the future of EVE? You know I'm actually not doom-saying the future of EVE because gently caress man, I don't know. If you asked me thirteen years ago if EVE would be something that still existed in 2020 I'd have bet the farm against  .That being said, I don't trust Larrikin at all to correctly analyze or relate the state of the in-game Economy given that I've literally picked through the flat files of five years of economic reports now. In fact, my loving rage about Larrikin and whether or not he's a loving liability based on his garbage output would probably make Grath blush.
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Nov 27, 2020 23:57
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He has the loving audacity to call himself a data scientist BITCH MUST WORK IN R
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Nov 27, 2020 23:58
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They probably want some of the focus to shift to, "I'll just buy PLEX." CCP always walks the line between trying to please the player base and trying to make that $$$.
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Nov 28, 2020 00:06
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Jintozook81 posted:They probably want some of the focus to shift to, "I'll just buy PLEX." CCP always walks the line between trying to please the player base and trying to make that $$$. And there's their new Korean corporate masters to think about, too.
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Nov 28, 2020 00:07
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Baculus posted:He has the loving audacity to call himself a data scientist BITCH MUST WORK IN R As I have downloaded Tensorflow in the past and also pursued a doctoral degree once I am basically a Data Scientist PhD myself and I fully agree with your assessment of Larrikin.
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Nov 28, 2020 00:11
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i did R in college and it was so horrifying that i do android and kotlin microservice development instead
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Jintozook81 posted:They probably want some of the focus to shift to, "I'll just buy PLEX." CCP always walks the line between trying to please the player base and trying to make that $$$. I've been unsubbed for a few years, so maybe this has changed, but did CCP introduce a serious $->isk or $->ships/minerals mechanic? (There wasn't such a thing when I last played.)
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