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Impermanent
Apr 1, 2010
not a single member of the mbmbam podcast isn't a straight white male, suck it up mcelrailures

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DoctorWhat
Nov 18, 2011

A little privacy, please?

Annointed posted:

I vouch for Kamen Rider Ex-Aid it's honest good fun. Also in some translations they call it "Gamer Disease." Diagnosed with Gamer.

Ex-Aid is a fun one but IMO it lacks substance. Also I'll never forgive it for what it did to Burgmon.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
I keep getting recommended videos by The Quartering about how The Mandalorian triggers SJWs and Kathleen Kennedy is totally gonna get fired from Disney. I've hit ignore multiple times and told youtube to stop recommending me his garbage but he keeps popping up. Anyone got a firefox extension to block specific channels? I've given up on my phone youtube app doing its job right but at least I can get some utility out of my desktop browser.

Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 05:18 on Nov 29, 2020

Bonaventure
Jun 23, 2005

by sebmojo
This!

Is!

Cinema Discusso!

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




McCloud posted:

Contra points was on a twitch stream playing among us with AOC, that's neat/terrible depending on your PoV I guess!

Gonna take something big to top AOC getting killed by Hbomb and also that stream introducing me to CORPSEHusband.

McCloud
Oct 27, 2005

RareAcumen posted:

Gonna take something big to top AOC getting killed by Hbomb and also that stream introducing me to CORPSEHusband.

Literally his first round too

Also Corpse's voice is unbelievable, in all the best ways

Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009

RareAcumen posted:

Gonna take something big to top AOC getting killed by Hbomb and also that stream introducing me to CORPSEHusband.

It really was a perfect moment.

https://twitter.com/People4Bernie/status/1318749965376606209

"I'm trying to be more observant."

*Neck snap*

DoctorWhat
Nov 18, 2011

A little privacy, please?
of course, Pokimane got outed as a TERF today

Twincityhacker
Feb 18, 2011

I thought it was just their mods?

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008

Twincityhacker posted:

I thought it was just their mods?

Yes it was. Here’s pokimane’s response:

https://twitter.com/pokimanelol/status/1332806237075849216?s=21

https://twitter.com/pokimanelol/status/1332806293061390336?s=21

https://twitter.com/pokimanelol/status/1332808942003503106?s=21

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




Considering al the roomate, emotional, and relationship crises that OfflineTV's been having this year I kinda feel like just ducking out of this stuff and letting them sort it out since I wasn't a long time fan or anything. Like, the Fedmyster thing and the recently released DMs.

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo
God, I hate Twitter.

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008

RareAcumen posted:

Considering al the roomate, emotional, and relationship crises that OfflineTV's been having this year I kinda feel like just ducking out of this stuff and letting them sort it out since I wasn't a long time fan or anything. Like, the Fedmyster thing and the recently released DMs.

Yeah it’s incredibly messy but the people continuing to make this an even bigger than what it already is really don’t want to move on from it. People love drama even if it’s at the cost of actual human relationships and dirty laundry being aired out for the entire internet. That goon didn’t hesitate to call pokimane was a terf and I can assure you they didn’t take the 5 minutes to search why on twitter.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




The REAL Goobusters posted:

Yeah it’s incredibly messy but the people continuing to make this an even bigger than what it already is really don’t want to move on from it. People love drama even if it’s at the cost of actual human relationships and dirty laundry being aired out for the entire internet. That goon didn’t hesitate to call pokimane was a terf and I can assure you they didn’t take the 5 minutes to search why on twitter.

TBH, I just thought it was related to the Fedmyster thing and didn't bother to look into it either. Regardless, that's their poo poo, I don't live in California and I'm not about to drive 2,700 miles there and be like 'Hey, you stop that' or whatever so I can't get myself motivated enough to be like 'I should probably devote 6 hours of my day into this for the next 29 months' about any of it. I just hope for the best for everyone and they figure out a way to distract Michael from taser ideas.

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008
I’m pretty sure most of the otv people if not all are actually all cool with Fed again it’s just that yeah they won’t ever work together like that anymore or live together. At least from the pokimane explanation stream as well as lilypichu’s stream as well.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
https://twitter.com/PhilosophyTube/status/1332814551566462980?s=20

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




The REAL Goobusters posted:

I’m pretty sure most of the otv people if not all are actually all cool with Fed again it’s just that yeah they won’t ever work together like that anymore or live together. At least from the pokimane explanation stream as well as lilypichu’s stream as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7h3Zx4bV0RE

And this wasn't even a consequence of (in America) constantly ignoring obvious problems until it got too big to sweep under the rug.

Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009


Eh, don't care for this take. You get out of communities what you put into them. If your hope is to just set up a Discord and then forget about it, yeah of course it'll go to poo poo. Online communities need effective and engaged moderation to function.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

It seems like the best way to be a professional on youtube is to not make a sanctioned space for fans to interact and to not acknowledge them at all—which is basically what old media has always done and seems good for preserving a person’s sanity.

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008

Skippy McPants posted:

Eh, don't care for this take. You get out of communities what you put into them. If your hope is to just set up a Discord and then forget about it, yeah of course it'll go to poo poo. Online communities need effective and engaged moderation to function.

100%

TheFlyingLlama
Jan 2, 2013

You really think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and be a llama?



moderating a discord with more than like, 100 people max is absolute hell.


I don't blame any creator for not wanting to have to go through it

Jamie Faith
Jan 13, 2020

TheFlyingLlama posted:

moderating a discord with more than like, 100 people max is absolute hell.


I don't blame any creator for not wanting to have to go through it

I'm the admin of a goon server of like 800 people but only like 50 people regularly use it so it's not that bad. However, I could only imagine what a nightmare existence it would be to mod for a server that's like 10k :negative:

Jamie Faith fucked around with this message at 12:09 on Nov 29, 2020

Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009

Thing is, if you're a mod for a community that size, what you really are is a Community Manager who isn't getting paid to do their job.

Which is, like, fine for unofficial fan communities, but should not be fine for any space officially under the umbrella of a media company or personality.

Edit: and to be clear, I understand why a smaller company or individual wouldn't be interested in that deal. I just don't like Olly framing it as "oh, they're more trouble than their worth cause someone always kicks off drama," as if there isn't a direct causal link between that happen and poor moderation.

Skippy McPants fucked around with this message at 11:10 on Nov 29, 2020

TheFlyingLlama
Jan 2, 2013

You really think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and be a llama?



straight up to get me to moderate a decently active discord server again it'd take full time pay and healthcare


it is that bad once you get past a certain number of active users, almost regardless of how nice the community would be in theory

Metis of the Chat Thread
Aug 1, 2014


i like the small server I mod where my only real responsibilities are curating emotes and occasionally herding cats into the right channels

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Even being a mod on SA seems like a horrible, joyless, Sisyphean task.

TheFlyingLlama
Jan 2, 2013

You really think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and be a llama?



the thing is that even past the obvious horrific racists and homophobes that litter discord that obviously everyone wants gone, you have to deal with the idiot who keeps posting NSFW images in places that aren't supposed to have them, or the kid who doesn't get that he's getting trolled and gets insanely mad and starts fights, or the person shilling some random site or paid service or the guy who can't loving stop pinging the mods every 15 minutes for stupid bullshit


oh my god it's the worst and even thinking about it makes me want to drink

Farm Frenzy
Jan 3, 2007

Skippy McPants posted:

Things is, if you're a mod for a community that size, what you really are is a Community Manager who isn't getting paid to do their job.

Which is, like, fine for unofficial fan communities, but should not be fine for any space officially under the umbrella of a media company or personality.

Edit: and to be clear, I understand why a smaller company or individual wouldn't be interested in that deal. I just don't like Olly framing it as "oh, they're more trouble than their worth cause someone always kicks off drama," as if there isn't a direct causal link between that happen and poor moderation.

i mean yeah he doesn't want to take on the burden of modding a discord or paying someone to do it properly. hes one guy who makes youtube videos

Roth
Jul 9, 2016

I modded the Contrapoints discord for about a month three years ago and quit because it was a miserable experience due to most of the users being unpleasant in addition to the other mods/admins being dicks.

Archer666
Dec 27, 2008
Sounds like your average mod experience for big servers.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009
I was once doing a little pay-per-post job on some tiny political forum. I think it had like 10 posters, probably half of us all paid to kickstart it. I ended up asking for mod powers to be nice because even this tiny little space would get hit by drive-by random porn posts and ad-spam. I can't imagine any forum, space or server with a real footprint.

Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009

Farm Frenzy posted:

i mean yeah he doesn't want to take on the burden of modding a discord or paying someone to do it properly. hes one guy who makes youtube videos

As I said in the post you're quoting, I don't have a problem with him deciding it's too much hassle, I just don't like that his tweet lays that at the feet of his Discord fans.

Farm Frenzy
Jan 3, 2007

Skippy McPants posted:

As I said in the post you're quoting, I don't have a problem with him deciding it's too much hassle, I just don't like that his tweet lays that at the feet of his Discord fans.

i don't think he's doing that at all. you are straining yourself to disagree with a statement you agree with

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


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There's a point at which a community becomes too big to regulate itself mostly through the interpersonal pressure of everyone involved being good friends (with maybe one or two people volunteering to deal with spam and maintenance) and becomes somewhere that needs a loosely-defined process for dealing with conflict.

A lot of communities fall apart trying to make the former solution work indefinitely, because the latter is hard and risks upsetting some implicit internal hierarchy.

Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009

Farm Frenzy posted:

i don't think he's doing that at all. you are straining yourself to disagree with a statement you agree with

And I think you're straining to find the most charitable version of a bad twitter take, so I guess we'll have to disagree, otherwise it's pistols at dawn!

josh04 posted:

There's a point at which a community becomes too big to regulate itself mostly through the interpersonal pressure of everyone involved being good friends (with maybe one or two people volunteering to deal with spam and maintenance) and becomes somewhere that needs a loosely-defined process for dealing with conflict.

A lot of communities fall apart trying to make the former solution work indefinitely, because the latter is hard and risks upsetting some implicit internal hierarchy.

This is something all of youtube (and related content folks everywhere) seems to struggle with, that grey area where it's just a side-hustle and you can still be friends with everyone vs. the transition full career and the additional boundaries that come along with that.

I don't envy anyone attempting to navigate that minefield without blowing a significant chunk of their personal relationships.

Skippy McPants fucked around with this message at 12:09 on Nov 29, 2020

Archer666
Dec 27, 2008

Jamie Faith posted:

People got annoyed by my Movie Bob derails, but at least with Bob, everyone here, regardless on what they think about Snyder or the Last Jedi or Rise of Skywalker or whatever, can agree Movie Bob sucks. And I think it's fun dunking on the guy.

It's way more fun than yelling at each other over Star Wars or Snyder atleast IMO

The thing with moviebob is that every time you want to stop mocking him, someone else finds something he wrote that's even dumber than before.

https://twitter.com/IrrationalChad/status/1333014732907945985

Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



Great man theory verbatim every time he's asked how he thinks the work worlds. Which on the thread's favorite subject makes his criticisms of Snyder some of the most bafflingly nitpicky bullshit possible.

Terrible Opinions fucked around with this message at 13:49 on Nov 29, 2020

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

Mr Phillby posted:

Did they write a gay character out of their latest podcast or something? Like I genuinely would like to know what you're insinuating here?
Goobusters is an unreasonably miserable rear end in a top hat literally all the time, pay him no mind

Roth posted:

I modded the Contrapoints discord for about a month three years ago and quit because it was a miserable experience due to most of the users being unpleasant in addition to the other mods/admins being dicks.
I have a lot of respect for mods, the amount of poo poo mods get vs anything they might get out of the position is unreal.

I was a mod for a sprite comic forum when I was a teenager, someone tracked me down and called my house because I banned them, poo poo was creepy as hell

Solar Tornado
Aug 9, 2016

A true fool keeps on fighting, even when there is no more glory to be gained

Captain Invictus posted:

I was a mod for a sprite comic forum when I was a teenager, someone tracked me down and called my house because I banned them, poo poo was creepy as hell

Take my opinions about 8-bit Theater seriously, Captain Invictus! :argh:

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Mr Phillby
Apr 8, 2009

~TRAVIS~
Oh okay lol, just worried because it seems like every other day someones trying to cancel the MceIlroys over something or other. There aren't 2000 new posts in the other worst thread on these forums so looks like I'm safe to continue using my awful travis avatar for now (if it does happen Travis is deffo the one who gets them cancelled lol).

Still a weird line of attack, like they're kinda known for having a pretty big queer fanbase I thought?

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