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Plastic_Gargoyle
Aug 3, 2007

karoshi posted:

Inflatable plane, what could possibly go wrong?


Use case, errr?? You're downed behind enemy lines and your buddy drops you an inflatable plane for your daring escape. Yeah, sure, that'll do it.


Fun fact, until the pandemic started I was regularly working alongside the stored first prototype Inflatoplane (on the left of that first image), so this is a personal Special Subject.

It is definitely in the category of "Wacky Cold War Ideas" though.

The popular "bow and arrow" joke is a myth, apparently they tested airmat fabric against a .45 round and it still held up.

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slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

MrYenko posted:

How many separate procurement programs do you think it would take to get that done? Three? Four?
About right, but this program also ends with RCAF using them to replace the CF188s.

Plastic_Gargoyle posted:

Fun fact, until the pandemic started I was regularly working alongside the stored first prototype Inflatoplane (on the left of that first image), so this is a personal Special Subject.

It is definitely in the category of "Wacky Cold War Ideas" though.

The popular "bow and arrow" joke is a myth, apparently they tested airmat fabric against a .45 round and it still held up.

That's pretty cool. I could see the fabric standing up to a bullet pretty well, in the sense it's just going to just be a hole.. it's not like the bullet should appreciably deform.

NightGyr
Mar 7, 2005
I � Unicode

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjZMWI77b84

charliemonster42
Sep 14, 2005


BobHoward posted:

I've beaten this drum before but A-4 F-8F Blue Angels best Blue Angels

FTFY

I mean, just imagine a dozen of these fuckers in tight formation:

charliemonster42 fucked around with this message at 08:59 on Nov 29, 2020

Psion
Dec 13, 2002

eVeN I KnOw wHaT CoRnEr gAs iS
Stealing this from Julius CSAR, but let's say you have $1500 AUD to burn, an indie Ace Combat-alike game's Kickstarter offering to let you pick a plane to put in their game at that backer level, and you're Canadian.

What plane would you pick? The answer ...probably surprises nobody in this thread.

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.

Psion posted:

Stealing this from Julius CSAR, but let's say you have $1500 AUD to burn, an indie Ace Combat-alike game's Kickstarter offering to let you pick a plane to put in their game at that backer level, and you're Canadian.

What plane would you pick? The answer ...probably surprises nobody in this thread.

Totally would have picked the Fairey Gannet

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

priznat posted:

Totally would have picked the Fairey Gannet

Canadair Argus

Psion
Dec 13, 2002

eVeN I KnOw wHaT CoRnEr gAs iS
both of you turn in your maple syrup cards immediately

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.
I am fully aware the Gannet isn’t :canada: it’s just the goofiest option I could think of :haw:

The correct option would have been the CF-101 Voodoo in Electric Voodoo livery armed solely with AIR-2A Genies.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
BOMARC missile battery.

StandardVC10
Feb 6, 2007

This avatar now 50% more dark mode compliant
My dream flight simulator is basically 100% Weird Fifties Jets. Yak-23, F4D Skyray, Gloster Javelin, maybe throw in some of those experimental jet seaplanes too.

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

StandardVC10 posted:

My dream flight simulator is basically 100% Weird Fifties Jets. Yak-23, F4D Skyray, Gloster Javelin, maybe throw in some of those experimental jet seaplanes too.

Cutlass or bust.

Psion
Dec 13, 2002

eVeN I KnOw wHaT CoRnEr gAs iS

StandardVC10 posted:

My dream flight simulator is basically 100% Weird Fifties Jets. Yak-23, F4D Skyray, Gloster Javelin, maybe throw in some of those experimental jet seaplanes too.

I've seen a Convair F2Y Sea Dart and that would be an entertaining takeoff sequence, that's for sure.

e: apparently there was a plan that never made it past the napkin phase to put three of them in a submarine as a sub carrier, and if that's not made for a flight game what is


MrYenko posted:

Cutlass or bust.

or?

Psion fucked around with this message at 06:03 on Nov 30, 2020

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

karoshi posted:

Inflatable plane, what could possibly go wrong?


Use case, errr?? You're downed behind enemy lines and your buddy drops you an inflatable plane for your daring escape. Yeah, sure, that'll do it.


Another quality product from the Acme Corporation.

StandardVC10
Feb 6, 2007

This avatar now 50% more dark mode compliant

You are third in line for an emergency landing

HookedOnChthonics
Dec 5, 2015

Profoundly dull


StandardVC10 posted:

My dream flight simulator is basically 100% Weird Fifties Jets. Yak-23, F4D Skyray, Gloster Javelin, maybe throw in some of those experimental jet seaplanes too.

An Area 88 game where you just do mercenary bullshit in a weird tiny 1970s bush conflict with all yesterday's worst gear and occasionally a squadron of themed assholes in matching english electric lightnings or g.91s or FMA I.Ae. 37s shows up to throw down, hell yes


give me a game where i can fly the pzl skorpion for gently caress's sake


e: runners-up for best unexplored flight sim game world would be a latter-day WWII 1947 setting of piston and prop pushed to their absolute extreme, XF-12s, Mixmasters, Thunderscreeches, etc., and alt-1930s "victory through air power" world where it's all multi-engine air cruisers with 37mm cannons chasing after each other

HookedOnChthonics fucked around with this message at 07:12 on Nov 30, 2020

Jekub
Jul 21, 2006

April, May, June, July and August fool

StandardVC10 posted:

My dream flight simulator is basically 100% Weird Fifties Jets. Yak-23, F4D Skyray, Gloster Javelin, maybe throw in some of those experimental jet seaplanes too.

If you ever find yourself on the south coast of England go find the Tangmere Military Aviation Museum, it's a lovely little museum on a now closed airfield staffed mainly by retired RAF members.

One of the things they have there is a basic simulator built into the shell of a RAF Lightning operational procedures trainer, it's not a fancy sim, just a wall projector with all the controls hooked into the shell. But what it will come with if you are lucky is a Lightning pilot standing next to you telling you what to do and telling you anecdotes of flying the real thing. Oh, and laughing his arse off when you gently caress up the landing. It's a fun place, all the staff are more than happy to talk to you about anything in the museum for as long as you want to listen.

BalloonFish
Jun 30, 2013



Fun Shoe

Jekub posted:

If you ever find yourself on the south coast of England go find the Tangmere Military Aviation Museum, it's a lovely little museum on a now closed airfield staffed mainly by retired RAF members.

One of the things they have there is a basic simulator built into the shell of a RAF Lightning operational procedures trainer, it's not a fancy sim, just a wall projector with all the controls hooked into the shell. But what it will come with if you are lucky is a Lightning pilot standing next to you telling you what to do and telling you anecdotes of flying the real thing. Oh, and laughing his arse off when you gently caress up the landing. It's a fun place, all the staff are more than happy to talk to you about anything in the museum for as long as you want to listen.

Can confirm - it's a great place and the staff are excellent. They usually outnumber the visitors too, if the times I've been there are indicative, so they're usually pleased to have someone new to talk to and you can spend hours on what's essentially a personal deep-dive tour round the place.

Safety Dance
Sep 10, 2007

Five degrees to starboard!

HookedOnChthonics posted:


e: runners-up for best unexplored flight sim game world would be a latter-day WWII 1947 setting of piston and prop pushed to their absolute extreme, XF-12s, Mixmasters, Thunderscreeches, etc., and alt-1930s "victory through air power" world where it's all multi-engine air cruisers with 37mm cannons chasing after each other

Alternatively, a flight sim set in the interwar period and the design doc is just a vhs copy of Porco Rosso

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



Fun Shoe

karoshi posted:

Inflatable plane, what could possibly go wrong?


Use case, errr?? You're downed behind enemy lines and your buddy drops you an inflatable plane for your daring escape. Yeah, sure, that'll do it.


It's a shame it's Goodyear and not Michelin, "Un Avion Gonflable" would be a dece username

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

I posted this in the cold war thread, and it should also be posted here: The American DoD has posted this sweet PDF covering hypothetical variants of the XB-70. Come for the SST transport, stay for the VTOL :catdrugs:

standard.deviant
May 17, 2012

Globally Indigent
VTOL parasail supersonic low-level terrain following WTF

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

A good space force emblem:

Thomamelas
Mar 11, 2009
Minuteman launching XB-70. That is...an idea.

Mortabis
Jul 8, 2010

I am stupid
My ideal flightsim planes would be turboprop trainers like the PC-21 or T-6 and light helicopters.

Safety Dance
Sep 10, 2007

Five degrees to starboard!

I was hoping for the pants-on-head renderings of the Search and Rescue XB-70 on skis, but these are pretty good.

Blue Footed Booby
Oct 4, 2006

got those happy feet

My ideal flight sim would be a Sprint strapped to a Buick LeSabre.

e.pilot
Nov 20, 2011

sometimes maybe good
sometimes maybe shit

Nebakenezzer posted:

A good space force emblem:



Since all they really did was spin off Air Force Space Command and made it its own thing, they should have kept the name. US Space Command sounds way cooler than US Space Force

PainterofCrap
Oct 17, 2002

hey bebe



Blue Footed Booby posted:

My ideal flight sim would be a Sprint strapped to a Buick LeSabre.

Just stay clear of buttes or other landscape features and you'll do juuust fine.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

Thomamelas posted:

Minuteman launching XB-70. That is...an idea.

No more :stare:-worthy than the ICBM launching 747 variant. It even housed three of them internally and dropped them out an enormous bomb bay door.

Thomamelas
Mar 11, 2009

BIG HEADLINE posted:

No more :stare:-worthy than the ICBM launching 747 variant. It even housed three of them internally and dropped them out an enormous bomb bay door.

Or the C-5A that actually did it. With the XB-70 Minuteman, I'm picturing it launching the ICBM then showing up over the target to pulverize the rubble some more.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

e.pilot posted:

Since all they really did was spin off Air Force Space Command and made it its own thing, they should have kept the name. US Space Command sounds way cooler than US Space Force

US Space Command exists.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

Thomamelas posted:

Or the C-5A that actually did it. With the XB-70 Minuteman, I'm picturing it launching the ICBM then showing up over the target to pulverize the rubble some more.

I always thought that was a Minuteman III until I looked into it more. It was an MM1.

ImplicitAssembler
Jan 24, 2013

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykahkYxsA6g

Second flight of the Raptor and it's much improved.
Still got cooling issues, though.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



ImplicitAssembler posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykahkYxsA6g

Second flight of the Raptor and it's much improved.
Still got cooling issues, though.

lol

Mr. Funny Pants
Apr 9, 2001

ImplicitAssembler posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykahkYxsA6g

Second flight of the Raptor and it's much improved.
Still got cooling issues, though.

As I've said, I'm not an aviation buff, but it strikes me that, "The oscillations aren't as bad as they were," while technically an improvement, is less than ideal.

charliemonster42
Sep 14, 2005


ImplicitAssembler posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykahkYxsA6g

Second flight of the Raptor and it's much improved.
Still got cooling issues, though.

I can't decide if my favorite part is where he manages to stall the canard on initial rotation, or if he talks about the wallowing rolling motion in flight to be in his "comfort zone" in the second flight of a new airplane design. I don't think there is a test pilot alive today who would be comfortable in the second flight of literally any aircraft, let alone one that somebody kludged together in poor fashion against all given good advice.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


charliemonster42 posted:

I can't decide if my favorite part is where he manages to stall the canard on initial rotation, or if he talks about the wallowing rolling motion in flight to be in his "comfort zone" in the second flight of a new airplane design. I don't think there is a test pilot alive today who would be comfortable in the second flight of literally any aircraft, let alone one that somebody kludged together in poor fashion against all given good advice.

And thats the difference between a test pilot and a software engineer with cash and an idea.

Ambihelical Hexnut
Aug 5, 2008
The Hunley had to sink multiple times to advance submarine tech. There are going to be risks when you're the first human to build and fly an airplane.

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Murgos
Oct 21, 2010

Ambihelical Hexnut posted:

The Hunley had to sink multiple times to advance submarine tech. There are going to be risks when you're the first human to build and fly an airplane.

Orville Wright was the first person killed in an airplane accident.

We are not talking about Orville Wright here, we are talking about someone willfully ignoring 100 years of effort to do things 'their way because they are smaht'.

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