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OwlFancier posted:I object to the use of the word "slope" to describe a method of locomotion. What about for describing bridges, asian people on them and properties thereof. e: It's a Top Gear joke. As for the verb IMO it sounds a bit like slop, which isn't evocative of very nice things. Private Speech fucked around with this message at 15:20 on Nov 30, 2020 |
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Maugrim posted:Why mediaphage posted:it is an accepted definition though i do think writers too often get a bug up about showing off their vocabulary. I realize it's in the dictionary I just object to it. Also I don't know what a hezbollah shirt is so I made one. 
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Some dude in Arizona put down my email address for his medical insurance quotes by mistake.
This is the future you voted for, Great Britane
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Talking of threats from companies: I just got a letter from my electricity provider saying I have to get a smart meter because they're turning off the radio network that 'it' uses (my existing meter is not smart but is digital). I don't need a smart meter, I can read numbers and have a spreadsheet and know that anything that does heating in my flat (heaters, kettle, hot water, cooker that I have never used) uses a lot of electricity so I only use those when I have to and I enter my readings online every month, so for me, there is nothing to be gained. I don't want a smart meter and two of the flats in the block had them installed but they mucked up their storage heating so the company had to put old ones back. Is this letter ignorable blx?
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mediaphage posted:do you think she’s seen one or just googled hezbollah shirt When I googled them the first thing that comes up is a story from a few years ago about some daft uni student in Edinburgh wearing one and getting herself investigated by the police for tweeting about it so Its likely she saw that I guess.
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Does anyone else notice the UK slowly ramping up the Sinophobia? Really feels like their doing the old frog boil for the next red scare.
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Disnesquick posted:Does anyone else notice the UK slowly ramping up the Sinophobia? Really feels like their doing the old frog boil for the next red scare. Asia embarrassed the west over covid and its potentially the start of a global realignment. So we're probably gonna try and have a war at some point to stop it
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Disnesquick posted:Does anyone else notice the UK slowly ramping up the Sinophobia? Really feels like their doing the old frog boil for the next red scare. Is that who our newly declared as 'Foreign Aid' drones are for when old Boris needs a poll boost. Mind you, I think Welsh Labour just lost next year's council elections: pubs etc not to be allowed to serve alcohol after Friday and all pubs, restaurants etc to close by 6pm. https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/everything-mark-drakeford-said-announced-19370826 quote:First Minister Mark Drakeford has announced the latest set of coronavirus rule changes in Wales. A tweet or two: (fascist crap) https://twitter.com/philip544/status/1333396356405338113?s=20 They seem to forget Wales used to be dry on Sundays and I'm sure all the chapel goers will welcome this move. Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 15:23 on Nov 30, 2020 |
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Goldskull posted:Slight change of topic: to save money when none was coming in, I cancelled the TV Licence DD, as the only thing we ever watched was TOTP89 on iplayer. I'm now getting 'some guys are coming, respond or we'll fine you'. Is it worth contacting them and telling them I'm not paying £120 a year for a programme first shown 30 years ago I watch pissed up when I remember it? Can they actually do anything? I remember someone else in the thread was on about it a while back. My own experience was pretty chill. Just phoned them up, said we have a TV to play video games on & watch DVDs but there's no aerial, didn't get bothered by them again in the 4 years I lived there.
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I don't see how conflict with china can possibly work, the west is entirely dependent on its manufacturing capability, our economies are based on designing poo poo to be produced in china and sold in the west.
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OwlFancier posted:I don't see how conflict with china can possibly work, the west is entirely dependent on its manufacturing capability, our economies are based on designing poo poo to be produced in china and sold in the west. My continued question these days is: What the hell does China need the west for? They easily have the educated population base now to design their own poo poo.
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Disnesquick posted:My continued question these days is: What the hell does China need the west for? They easily have the educated population base now to design their own poo poo. We buy their poo poo
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Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/Gabriel_Pogrund/status/1333166855020818434?s=19 is Mandelson actually correct, though - yeah there was Lewis v Heffer etc at Newham Northeast CLP in 1978 but this was in the before-times when it wasn't clear whether the NEC had the formal power to intervene. Once it did - at the 1980s height of Militant's power rather than during its ascent - the left judo was at the party subcommittee level where it strengths lay, and where witchhunt rhetoric hails from decades later. It was the period when the left thoroughly controlled Conference and created powerful, elected Committees like Organisation and Appeals/Mediation. continually wracked by accusations of factionally biased decisionmaking, and the right instead fought for a return to factional struggle through the legal process (in particular because it wasn't sure, as it eventually would be, that it could successfully challenge the left at electing slates to these subcommittees) an STV NEC is surely going to perpetually have a handful of members angrily denouncing/leaking whatever, so it won't be a bloc committee moving forward anyway (which suits the soft left just fine)
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Continuity NIP posted:We buy their poo poo With what actual products though?
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Disnesquick posted:With what actual products though? Not sure I understand. We exchange money for goods and services
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ronya posted:is Mandelson actually correct, though Mandelson is never correct.
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Disnesquick posted:My continued question these days is: What the hell does China need the west for? They easily have the educated population base now to design their own poo poo. I mean you could as easily ask why does the west not go full autarky? Interdependence is easier. As long as US dollars continue to have purchasing power because people believe they do, they are useful to people across the world. China probably could pursue independent hegemonic control of the necessary resources and operate an entirely planned economy where it just produces things it needs and sells to the west to keep them quiet but the current relationship is easier for the moment so people do that instead. How long it holds up if the west continues to gently caress up their economies and military power, gently caress knows. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 15:38 on Nov 30, 2020 |
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:A tweet or two: (fascist crap) https://twitter.com/Davethe25219352/status/1333391039491682304 OwlFancier posted:I mean you could as easily ask why does the west not go full autarky? Interdependence is easier.
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as someone well-versed in Marxist theory might expect, the PRC still imports a massive amount of capital goods from the developed world, notably Japan, the United States, and South Korea convergence depends on the movement of capital from capital-rich countries to capital-poor countries the other point shared with the other East Asian states that grew rich through export promotion is that the consumers your local regional crony capitalists can't coerce are a better judge of export quality than the ones they can, and the problem of divergent interests between the Chinese centre and the Chinese periphery is more important than the one outside it. Disciplining subordinates is politically tough. Better to let others do it.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Talking of threats from companies: Which provider is it? It smells like a bullshit way to force people onto the smart meter, for which there is no legal obligation.
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Lungboy posted:Which provider is it? It smells like a bullshit way to force people onto the smart meter, for which there is no legal obligation. SSE now bought out by OVO.
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Continuity NIP posted:Not sure I understand. We exchange money for goods and services That's kind of my point, really. China runs a big trade surplus and it doesn't seem like a beneficial relationship. What are they using that money to buy that they can't just make themselves? I'm hard pressed to see what Britain can provide that they would want in exchange for the vast amount of manufactured goods they send over. At some point the money has to convert to something or you've just handed over goods for nothing. Edit: China still has an actual, real economy at this point. The UK has an economy based around a massive Ponzi scheme that assumes rates of growth not seen since before 2008 and even those rates were a fantasy built on the housing Ponzi. It's hard to imagine, having built things to the point they are, that China would want to exchange big chunks of productivity for a stake in such a flimsy illusion. Active Quasar fucked around with this message at 16:00 on Nov 30, 2020 |
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Disnesquick posted:That's kind of my point, really. China runs a big trade surplus and it doesn't seem like a beneficial relationship. What are they using that money to buy that they can't just make themselves? I'm hard pressed to see what Britain can provide that they would want in exchange for the vast amount of manufactured goods they send over. At some point the money has to conver to something or you've just handed over goods for nothing. Well for example looking up iron ore production, Australia produces a shitton of it and China consumes a shitton of it, similarly a lot of copper comes from Chile. A lot of raw materials are produced in countries that would use USD or other west-aligned currencies to buy things from other countries.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Talking of threats from companies: i dunno about how things work over there but generally a smart meter just means a meter they can read remotely and may or may not provide real-time usage data to end users, not smart in the sense of how we use it to describe internet of things devices. if they're phasing out the radio network that the old meters use to communicate, they may actually need to swap it out for a new one. surely they're not suggesting this is a cost you need to bear, though?
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OwlFancier posted:Well for example looking up iron ore production, Australia produces a shitton of it and China consumes a shitton of it, similarly a lot of copper comes from Chile. A lot of raw materials are produced in countries that would use USD or other west-aligned currencies to buy things from other countries. This would be a key reason for the Belt and Road initiative - to cut out-the middle-man and give themselves the dominant stake in countries with resources they need.
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mediaphage posted:i dunno about how things work over there but generally a smart meter just means a meter they can read remotely and may or may not provide real-time usage data to end users, not smart in the sense of how we use it to describe internet of things devices. if they're phasing out the radio network that the old meters use to communicate, they may actually need to swap it out for a new one. No - we don't have to pay for these things. Basically, they send in readings to the electric company for bills. (But I do that manually anyway.). The adverts also claim they 'save electricity' well only if you're not aware that heating anything anyhow gobbles electricity! (And UK is now practically all low-watt light bulbs throughout. My entire flat of light bulbs uses less electricity than one old incandescent 100W bulb did. People have had problems with them if they want to change electricity supplier for example (which I might well do in April when my contract with this over-charging mob comes to an end if they can't come up with anything better.) and as I said in my OP, when two of the other flats had smart meters installed, they disabled the storage heaters and the electric co had to come and put old ones back in. (Don't ask me how or why they screwed up the storage heaters, they just did and if it was user error, the co wouldn't have changed them back!) As far as I know there is no radio communication from my existing meter - it doesn't send readings and the economy 7 (night rate) kicks in 12am - 7am during the winter and 1am - 8am during the summer so there is no 'auto reset' happening to line up the times. I guess maybe if there was a major power outage it might do something? Ed: You're from the US right? I remember trying to explain the UK electricity supplier set up to an American friend. She was confused as to how come we had 40 lines (or whatever) from all different suppliers coming into one building and couldn't get hold of the idea, you just have one wire and the different suppliers just buy 'electron paths' over the infrastructure - a bit like train companies buy train paths over the rail infrastructure. Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 16:10 on Nov 30, 2020 |
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Jose posted:Can someone get me this Hezbollah t-shirt? Rowling's prose is so bad. Good lord.
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Yes, it isn't going to last forever, but right now the production and sale approach is easier.
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the UK is actually e.g. a major car manufacturer and exports most of the cars it makes, and exports to China specifically are a significant chunk of bilateral trade - more than e.g. financial services even in the most braindead "only factory manufacturing work is real work" worldview, this is still significant
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OwlFancier posted:Well for example looking up iron ore production, Australia produces a shitton of it and China consumes a shitton of it, similarly a lot of copper comes from Chile. A lot of raw materials are produced in countries that would use USD or other west-aligned currencies to buy things from other countries. There's an entire designation of bulk carriers called chinamax especially designed for shipping from South America
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Darth Walrus posted:This would be a key reason for the Belt and Road initiative - to cut out-the middle-man and give themselves the dominant stake in countries with resources they need. Isn't this running into big default problems after COVID? Probably drifting too far from UK at this point though. I guess I'm just amazed people are willing to send actual valuable stuff to the UK. I suppose we are thepmeh laundering capital of the world though so in that context it does make a grim sense.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:No - we don't have to pay for these things. yeah, although that might be a regional misunderstanding on her part as where i grew up had some choice in providers (before a conglomerate came along and snapped all of them up) semi-related there’s been a push against smart meters in the us by a certain segment of the population that is also fighting against 5g over there
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ronya posted:even in the most braindead "only factory manufacturing work is real work" worldview, this is still significant
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£s are still worth something, not as much as they were but they are still worth something, and if you're selling to everyone else in the hemisphere anyway it's not a big extra effort. Though brexit of course is working hard to change that. Plus, having countries be dependent on your manufacturing to avoid collapsing their consumer economies has a definite pax romana element to it. And to that end making sure everyone buys your poo poo is a good way to ensure nobody starts feeling the need to develop independent capabilities in that area. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 16:16 on Nov 30, 2020 |
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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:There's an entire designation of bulk carriers called chinamax especially designed for shipping from South America 
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OwlFancier posted:£s are still worth something, not as much as they were but they are still worth something, and if you're selling to everyone else in the hemisphere anyway it's not a big extra effort. Though brexit of course is working hard to change that. i like to buy licorice ricolas and the occasional bottle of oraldene form the uk, pls don’t disrupt this tia
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Talking of threats from companies: Please don’t ignore this, it’s really important that you engage with your supplier on this and get the SMETS2 meter installed. You are in an are using a Radio Teleswitched Meter. These are used to ensure demand on the local network around your area doesn’t exceed capacity. Historically the signal that switched meters across to economy 7 or to other behaviours was embedded in the long wave signal for Radio 4, but the BBC are switching the transmitter off entirely, so there needs to be a new way of updating and talking to meters. Resiliency in local networks is really important and especially when it comes to increasing levels of electrification in cooking, heating and transport. https://www.energy-uk.org.uk/files/docs/Policies/Smart%20Meters/TheFutureofRTSFebruary2020.pdf Total Meatlove fucked around with this message at 16:23 on Nov 30, 2020 |
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ronya posted:the UK is actually e.g. a major car manufacturer and exports most of the cars it makes, and exports to China specifically are a significant chunk of bilateral trade - more than e.g. financial services The direct financial services export number is pretty misleading if you want to capture total revenue generated by the UK financial sector from interacting with the Chinese economy. A significant amount of money is made from activities such as investing/gambling with the Chinese markets.
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