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Mu Zeta posted:I usually advise avoiding first gen not because of price/performance but because something is irreperably hosed on the initial releases in the past. But Apple seems to have avoided that this time. Like when they first switched to Intel those things ran mega hot. A goon opened his MBP up and found a poo poo ton of thermal paste splattered everywhere like a bang bros production. And of course the butterfly keyboard were poo poo in that first 12" and the first Air had the horrible hinge that hides the usb ports. Completely true as this was about the first MBPs, I was still glad to have bought one when I did. I needed a portable desktop replacement for entering college later that year and no other Mac was even close to those Core Duo MBPs in terms of speed and capabilities while not being a behemoth G5. It served me well for many, many years and then I loaned/gave it to someone else for many more.
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Nitrousoxide posted:This is why you just wait for reviews on the product. Never pre-order in general. It doesn't matter if its 1st gen or 5th gen. Always research the reviews on the product. yeah to be honest i don't get the appeal of pre-ordering pretty much anything. i know some people do it for gifts or whatever, but i'd rather always wait for some reviews to trickle out. even then the vast vast majority of reviews are pretty mediocre because they're just journos writing about tech. often useful to get a baseline, though.
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Data Graham posted:Back in my day computer speeds would double every six months so nobody bothered buying computers the only way to win is to not play at all
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The reviews are overwhelmingly glowing for the M1 Mac so you can't really go wrong. The biggest caveat I've seen is if you want a more 'premium' Pro, then probably wait for the next update since the Air and Pro are pretty similar at the moment.
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mediaphage posted:yeah to be honest i don't get the appeal of pre-ordering pretty much anything. i know some people do it for gifts or whatever, but i'd rather always wait for some reviews to trickle out. Apple has a 14 day return window, so there isn't much risk. I waited for reviews of the m1 but I wish I preordered so it would be in my hand right now.
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admiraldennis posted:Completely true as this was about the first MBPs, I was still glad to have bought one when I did. I needed a portable desktop replacement for entering college later that year and no other Mac was even close to those Core Duo MBPs in terms of speed and capabilities while not being a behemoth G5. It served me well for many, many years and then I loaned/gave it to someone else for many more. My 2007 15" MBP Core 2 Duo was an amazing laptop, even moreso after I pulled out the DVD drive and put in a OCZ Vertex II 120GB SSD + 500GB HDD. Amazingly, my parents still use that laptop for email/web, although the battery has been long removed, and the Vertex II is still alive.
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I’m really hoping that the eventual M1X or M2 becomes available in the Mini at the same time as it hits 16” Pros and iMacs. All I want is a powerful desktop Mac.
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Dec 1, 2020 16:12
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mediaphage posted:sorry i don’t understand. your previous post sounds like they didn’t hold and change them? Sorry we thought they were going to cancel and had informed him so, so he threw a loving tantrum (this is a grown rear end man worth a fair amount of scratch). But then they shipped them anyway, sort of unrelated to his wanting the old machine, didn't really mean to tie the two posts together. But plenty of people don't care about min/maxing their computer was the point of the second anecdote. He'd rather have the "worse" one sooner.
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Dec 1, 2020 16:21
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Don’t tell me about regret, I bought the 4th gen iPad
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Dec 1, 2020 16:33
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FCKGW posted:Don’t tell me about regret, I bought the 4th gen iPad What's wrong with the iPad 4? One of those was getting used around my house up until earlier this year, when I traded it in for $70 somehow. First iPad with a Lightning port, right?
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Dec 1, 2020 16:34
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iPad 3 was the badpad, the 4 came only seven months later iirc
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Dec 1, 2020 16:43
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I still used my ipad 3 until like 2017 or so. It was slow, but it worked well for reading and shitposting. nowit's a picture frame.
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Dec 1, 2020 16:46
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I feel like a huge dummy buying a $2000 intel MacBook Pro 13 back in like, June. I should've waited  . Granted I needed a new laptop but the battery on this thing lasts like, 4 hours
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Empress Brosephine posted:I feel like a huge dummy buying a $2000 intel MacBook Pro 13 back in like, June. I should've waited If you're curious you can check the trade-in value at Apple. https://www.apple.com/shop/trade-in
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Mu Zeta posted:If you're curious you can check the trade-in value at Apple. $960, no thanks Apple. I'll just wait until this dies I guess.
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hatty posted:iPad 3 was the badpad, the 4 came only seven months later iirc Oh sorry, it was the iPad 3 I bought. First Retina display but the GPU was underpowered and could barely power it. Last with the 30-pin. Introduced in March, discontinued in October.
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I figure my iPad 3's value is in the long term now when some collector will pay for it.
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AWS Introduced Mac minis for rent today, $1.083 an hour with 24 hour minimum rental time. So, $9487 to rent a mini for a year. This is vastly cheaper than what we're currently paying for Macs, which is 8c a minute for 1/4 of a mini. Once there's M1s in there i bet builds go faster and we can save even more.
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Dec 1, 2020 18:10
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Twerk from Home posted:AWS Introduced Mac minis for rent today, $1.083 an hour with 24 hour minimum rental time. So, $9487 to rent a mini for a year. Time to crowdsource rented mac mini's
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Hello Spaceman posted:the only way to win is to not play at all Buy AAPL stock and then get a dell xps so you can troll about how profitable apple fanboys are You earn internet bonus points if you switch to linux and write a medium post about why you're quitting macos
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Last Chance posted:Im a huge apple nerd and I don't even remember those "milestones "lol. Yeah the switch from the C2D 2010 Air to the Sandy Bridge 2011 Air is probably a way, way bigger deal from a wider industry standpoint, and from the standpoint of Apple’s fortunes, and also from the standpoint of bringing palpable change to the average user.
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Twerk from Home posted:$9487 to rent a mini for a year. WHAT HAHAHAHA
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MrBond posted:Buy AAPL stock and then get a dell xps so you can troll about how profitable apple fanboys are i hope i never care about a computer this much
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https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/new-use-mac-instances-to-build-test-macos-ios-ipados-tvos-and-watchos-apps/ Amazon AWS is now offering MacOS machines. M1 chip boxes arriving 2021...
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Apple Silicon is kind of a Mac vs PC nightmare scenario for PC partisans right now. Picture the most obnoxious, stupid, hyperbolic Apple fanboy. The guy who gets into Internet fights with strangers in 2009 about how his polycarb MacBook is superior to PCs for really half-baked reasons beyond “because it’s a Mac”. Everything is better, the system is better, etc blah blah blah blah blah. Now we have Macs that actually live up to the worst hyperbole that 2006 weird teen Ok Comboomer could come up with. Like removed from their context, excerpts from a lot of M1 reviews sound like the worst kinds of Jobsian reality distortion.
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M1 owners, how does your machine behave with the latest version of Zoom and like 8+ people in a conference? On my old beaten 2015 rMBP with a (ha) dual core i7 running 3.1 GHz, Zoom typically takes 18-35% of my CPU and 38-50% GPU with like 10 video streams going at once; trying to play HTML video on top of that puts my fans in overdrive. How much CPU/GPU does it take on Zoom, typically? Noted that Zoom (latest is 5.4.4 at time of post) has zippo Apple Silicon code..
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Binary Badger posted:M1 owners, how does your machine behave with the latest version of Zoom and like 8+ people in a conference? out of curiosity is that flat or with background removal
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Apple pushed out the ship date of my 16gb Air  I still can't find them in stock anywhere.Who is buying a $1000 computer with 8gb ram in 2020?
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Does dolphin emulation work on the M1? Curious if I grabbed an air if I could finally play GameCube games
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Anyone having issues with gestures for forward or back stopping working in Chrome in their M1 or Big Sur computers? It works for a while but then individual tabs stop responding to the gesture. I have to copy and paste the URL into a new tab to get it to start working again.
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Ok Comboomer posted:Apple Silicon is kind of a Mac vs PC nightmare scenario for PC partisans right now. Wonder if comp.sys.mac.advocacy is still active and whether some of the absolute Mac diehards like Joe Ragosta is still going at it on there.
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Nitrousoxide posted:Anyone having issues with gestures for forward or back stopping working in Chrome in their M1 or Big Sur computers? It works for a while but then individual tabs stop responding to the gesture. I have to copy and paste the URL into a new tab to get it to start working again. I haven't had this issue, but I'm mostly using Safari. Wondering if it's more of a Chrome issue than a Big Sur/compatibility issue?
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LionArcher posted:Does dolphin emulation work on the M1? Curious if I grabbed an air if I could finally play GameCube games Yes. https://youtu.be/5bHUsFvLls8 Skip to about 6 min It’s legit.
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:Apple pushed out the ship date of my 16gb Air There's a bunch of thoughts out there that 8GB is still totally fine for many folks: https://9to5mac.com/2020/11/18/opinion-is-the-base-macbook-air-m1-8gb-powerful-enough-for-you/ That said, I'm not sure I would personally buy a brand-new non-upgradable 8GB laptop in 2020 myself, even if intended for light usage.
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MarcusSA posted:Yes. Well poo poo. Must hold out for 14 inch. Must hold out for 14 inch...
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The second generation of this chip is going to be so good.
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mediaphage posted:out of curiosity is that flat or with background removal Ah, flat, and with optimize / de-noise disabled, and hardware acceleration enabled (as much as a crappy Iris 6000 is gonna give me) I'd imagine that when the OpenEmu guys and the guys who produce the x86 engines for it start making Apple Silicon specific code, then stuff is gonna fly... Binary Badger fucked around with this message at 20:46 on Dec 1, 2020 |
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Mister Facetious posted:The second generation of this chip is going to be so good. The 1st gen is already so good.
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Mister Facetious posted:The second generation of this chip is going to be so good. I mean it will certainly be better than the M1 but why shouldn't we just assume an update to the same architecture won't just be incremental improvements over the M1 given that much of the improvement over x86 chips were already captured in the architectural switch to the M1?
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