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YES bread
Jun 16, 2006
2 Zhonglis
2 Chongyuns
1 Xinyan
3 Razors
50 rolls
:cheers:

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Xalidur
Jun 4, 2012

Clicked into 5* pity as soon as the Zhongli banner launched.

My only 5s are Mona and Klee so just about anything would have been a good addition to my roster.

It was Mona C1.

So now I've been playing since like five days after launch and still only have two 5s.

I feel hated.

Heran Bago
Aug 18, 2006



Jesus how much money are you guys even putting into this?
Like I don't think there's enough primos in the game to get 2 pities.

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010



Heran Bago posted:

Jesus how much money are you guys even putting into this?
Like I don't think there's enough primos in the game to get 2 pities.

If you pay the 5 bucks a month, dont skip on a single days daily and rerolled at the start of the game you should have between 2-3 5* characters.

I dolphined but not on characters, I spent it on the sac weapon banner.

Bussamove
Feb 25, 2006

Xalidur posted:

Clicked into 5* pity as soon as the Zhongli banner launched.

My only 5s are Mona and Klee so just about anything would have been a good addition to my roster.

It was Mona C1.

So now I've been playing since like five days after launch and still only have two 5s.

I feel hated.

This is me, I have Tartaglia and Klee, though my Klee is C1 and my main carry so that was real good at least.

Flavahbeast
Jul 21, 2001


Mild Zhongli quest spoiler: I really can't imagine the game's tone taking any shockingly dark turns in the future like people seem to think it will

YES bread
Jun 16, 2006

Heran Bago posted:

Jesus how much money are you guys even putting into this?
Like I don't think there's enough primos in the game to get 2 pities.

my secret tech was to request birthday presents in the form of google play cards, since rona put the kibosh on most party activities

Vargs
Mar 27, 2010

aquagremlin posted:

I'm sorry to do this but I just got lucky, pulled both Zhongli and Mona.

I have so many mixed feelings because now I don't know how I'm going to build my team. Water and Geo don't seem to really go well together...

Hydro + Cryo = Frozen, which can be shattered for extra damage by Geo. Could try doing something based around that.

Dom is Here
Nov 11, 2016

Lipstick Apathy
i blew my leveling/exploration primo stash on this banner. now begins the dark winter of maybe saving up to 25 rolls every three weeks

Bussamove
Feb 25, 2006

Vargs posted:

Hydro + Cryo = Frozen, which can be shattered for extra damage by Geo. Could try doing something based around that.

I've had decent luck running Kaeya and XQ with Ningguang for shatters in the Pyro artifact dungeon. I imagine Mona could do something similar with a cryo to freeze stuff so Zhong can shatter it.

Mailer
Nov 4, 2009

Have you accepted The Void as your lord and savior?
18 rolls. Got a Chongyun and a Razor. Welp, done with this banner. Next!

PringleCreamEgg
Jul 2, 2004

Sleep, rest, do your best.
I got Zhongli on my second pull. I did about twenty five pulls and ended up with The Bell, two Fischl (maxed out her constellation), a Chong (now C2), and the Fire Rockstar girl so I'm happy. Saving up my Primogems was definitely worth it.

Can't believe my luck!

YoshiOfYellow
Aug 21, 2015

Voted #1 Babysitter in Mushroom Kingdom

Stuck at work and can't pull for like another 3.5 hours bah.

Only have like a 10 pull lined up though so it's not like I'll get much.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
Ugh maxed out razor, the worst result for me. Also jean dupe.

Pain of Mind
Jul 10, 2004
You are receiving this broadcast as a dream...We are transmitting from the year one nine... nine nine ...You are receiving this broadcast in order t

Heran Bago posted:

Jesus how much money are you guys even putting into this?
Like I don't think there's enough primos in the game to get 2 pities.

I have not spent a cent and I must be pretty close to 2 pities on the character banner, starting a few days after launch. Doing the math now - 79 pulls to get venti, 17 on the character banner post venti, 18 on the weapon banner, and I have 59 pulls worth of primogems or the 5 bought from the stardust exchange for a total of 173 intertwined fate, and I probably wasted some primogems getting standard wishes when I first started playing because I did not know what I was doing, so if you started at launch you should be very close if not there already, and close enough to make it through dailies before this banner ends.

Bloody Emissary
Mar 31, 2014

Powawa~n
Pity pull was Qiqi. :negative:

I guess I'll keep pulling to build up my next pity, though, since I'm interested in all the banner characters anyway.

Radical
Apr 6, 2011

all three 4 stars and three favonious weapons for 50 pulls is alright, i was really spoiled getting ten 4-stars and childe in the same amount on the last banner though

Ibblebibble
Nov 12, 2013

20 rolls, got Xinyan, Chongyun c1 and Mona c1. Good enough for me.

How should I build Xinyan? For now I just gave her Noelle's hand-me-downs because her shield scales off DEF.

Bloody Emissary
Mar 31, 2014

Powawa~n
Say, what are the odds of getting the same banner character for six out of seven hits on 4*? Just for reference's sake, in case somebody might have, hypothetically, acquired a C5 Chong against all expectations and started wondering if their game is bugged or something.

Geomancing
Jan 8, 2004

I am not an egghead. I am well-read.
Xinyan's the only one I wanted, got her in the first ten. Good enough! I love that her voice is Texan; sounds like she should be talking about howdies and cowpokes.

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!

gandlethorpe posted:

I dunno if it works differently between heroes, but Enviosity just waits for the room to pulse Cryo and immediately uses Anemo MC's skill/burst

I'm guessing if you're using Venti or Sucrose, you go and stand in the middle of the AoE for it to absorb
This floor swirl thing is not working out and I don't think Venti can actually do it... guess I'm going to have to get back there with another ice unit instead of Venti.

zgrowler2
Oct 29, 2011

HOW DOES THE IPHONE APP WORK?? I WILL SPAM ENDLESSLY EVERYWHERE AND DISREGARD ANY REPLIES

Heran Bago posted:

Jesus how much money are you guys even putting into this?
Like I don't think there's enough primos in the game to get 2 pities.

Cao Ni Ma posted:

If you pay the 5 bucks a month, dont skip on a single days daily and rerolled at the start of the game you should have between 2-3 5* characters.

I dolphined but not on characters, I spent it on the sac weapon banner.

Anecdotal dolphin data point:

Game launch freebie rolls, Welkin since 10/10, Gnostic Hymn x2, Gnostic Chorus, $15 primo pack with first time bonus - $56 spent total

Character Banner: Klee (pity counter 70+), Childe (pity counter 20~30), current pity counter 54
Weapon Banner: Skyward Harp (pity counter 30), current pity counter 0
Permanent Banner: current pity counter 51
Novice Banner: zero 5*s

Three 5*s and two banners 5/8ths of the way to pity seems about right

hit button
Mar 18, 2012


Bloody Emissary posted:

Say, what are the odds of getting the same banner character for six out of seven hits on 4*? Just for reference's sake, in case somebody might have, hypothetically, acquired a C5 Chong against all expectations and started wondering if their game is bugged or something.

It changes a bit depending on what the seventh 4-star was, and the order it occured, but I make the odds of that ~0.04% to happen for any one of the banner characters, or ~0.013% for a specific one. So pretty unlikely.

Some Numbers
Sep 28, 2006

"LET'S GET DOWN TO WORK!!"

Bloody Emissary posted:

Say, what are the odds of getting the same banner character for six out of seven hits on 4*? Just for reference's sake, in case somebody might have, hypothetically, acquired a C5 Chong against all expectations and started wondering if their game is bugged or something.

So, each time, you have a 50% chance of pulling a banner character and a 1/3rd chance of pulling Chongyun, so it's about 16.5% to pull him each 10x roll.

Multiply that out 7 times and you end up with 0.00033%.

Bloody Emissary
Mar 31, 2014

Powawa~n

Some Numbers posted:

So, each time, you have a 50% chance of pulling a banner character and a 1/3rd chance of pulling Chongyun, so it's about 16.5% to pull him each 10x roll.

Multiply that out 7 times and you end up with 0.00033%.

Gacha works in mysterious ways, I guess.

Well, I'm already building Kaeya and Xingqiu, so maybe I can use him for Cryo crit shenanigans once the new artifact sets are released.

gandlethorpe
Aug 16, 2008

:gowron::m10:

Some Numbers posted:

So, each time, you have a 50% chance of pulling a banner character and a 1/3rd chance of pulling Chongyun, so it's about 16.5% to pull him each 10x roll.

Multiply that out 7 times and you end up with 0.00033%.

I'm the opposite of this person, missing the 16.5% every time :(

I'm actually somewhat excited to build Xinyan though. Wish I didn't have Razor at all, or his C3. Not a fan of his playstyle.

hit button
Mar 18, 2012


Some Numbers posted:

So, each time, you have a 50% chance of pulling a banner character and a 1/3rd chance of pulling Chongyun, so it's about 16.5% to pull him each 10x roll.

Multiply that out 7 times and you end up with 0.00033%.

But it's not 7 times in a row, its 6 times out of 7, so you need to do a binomial distribution.

And that ignores the sequence of pulls, and the fact that the chances of that occurring for any one of the banner characters (as opposed to specifically Chong) are three times higher.

And all of this is ignoring that, given the number of opportunities there are for them to happen, its extremely likely that you will encounter extremely improbable events.

dogsicle
Oct 23, 2012

at this point looking forward to jinjinx's more concise (lol) video on Zhongli testing since the stream so far has him looking like a great physical carry while Xinyan got shafted. still interested in her as a burst support but i really need to stop taking up projects, especially having no idea where i'd even fit her atm.

zgrowler2
Oct 29, 2011

HOW DOES THE IPHONE APP WORK?? I WILL SPAM ENDLESSLY EVERYWHERE AND DISREGARD ANY REPLIES
What's the way-too-early outlook on Xinyan? I'm aesthetically extremely interested but I'm already leveling Klee / XL / Bennett and I don't wanna run pyrovine for the rest of my life

Bloody Emissary
Mar 31, 2014

Powawa~n

hit button posted:

But it's not 7 times in a row, its 6 times out of 7, so you need to do a binomial distribution.

And that ignores the sequence of pulls, and the fact that the chances of that occurring for any one of the banner characters (as opposed to specifically Chong) are three times higher.

And all of this is ignoring that, given the number of opportunities there are for them to happen, its extremely likely that you will encounter extremely improbable events.

Ahh, right. Good ol' dependent probabilities.

hit button posted:

It changes a bit depending on what the seventh 4-star was, and the order it occured, but I make the odds of that ~0.04% to happen for any one of the banner characters, or ~0.013% for a specific one. So pretty unlikely.

The seventh 4* was Eye of Retribution. I think it was the third hit, and it wasn't a 10-pull pity hit, if that makes a difference.

RosaParksOfDip
May 11, 2009
Pulled chongyun from my 10x. Is he easy enough to build as a support? Seems pretty doable. I noticed there's that one dude who posts him in a comp as a dps but I don't have venti or sucrose so can't do the same shenanigans. Unless Jean works as a sub.

gandlethorpe
Aug 16, 2008

:gowron::m10:

dogsicle posted:

at this point looking forward to jinjinx's more concise (lol) video on Zhongli testing since the stream so far has him looking like a great physical carry while Xinyan got shafted. still interested in her as a burst support but i really need to stop taking up projects, especially having no idea where i'd even fit her atm.

I don't know where he's getting that she doesn't have carry potential, when she can get attack speed, +physical DMG%, and -physical RES once ascended and at C4. Granted, I don't know what level of constellation he said he had.

She can run with Cryo/Electro to give her access superconduct, melt, and overload. And with her being mainly a physical damager, she doesn't have as much reliance on Anemo support; meaning she can run with Bennett for Pyro resonance and his OP burst.

RosaParksOfDip posted:

Pulled chongyun from my 10x. Is he easy enough to build as a support? Seems pretty doable. I noticed there's that one dude who posts him in a comp as a dps but I don't have venti or sucrose so can't do the same shenanigans. Unless Jean works as a sub.

He can, but he's definitely not someone you just stick on a team because of how consequential his field is. Diluc is a popular pair because he can trigger melts repeatedly with his multi-use E. I think Bennett may have more carry potential with a support Chong too.

But carry Chong is most fun. Jean can do ok, but her swirling ability is pretty lacking.

gandlethorpe fucked around with this message at 02:22 on Dec 2, 2020

dogsicle
Oct 23, 2012

gandlethorpe posted:

I don't know where he's getting that she doesn't have carry potential, when she can get attack speed, +physical DMG%, and -physical RES once ascended and at C4. Granted, I don't know what level of constellation he said he had.

She can run with Cryo/Electro to give her access superconduct, melt, and overload. And with her being mainly a physical damager, she doesn't have as much reliance on Anemo support; meaning she can run with Bennett for Pyro resonance and his OP burst.

her combo multipliers ended up worse than Beidou let alone Razor (who beats Zhongli too anyway), so of course potential is there but she's just not near the top in terms of similar carries. that at least accounted for C2 (what he pulled) but i missed whether the 2nd ascension talent was included and any testing for higher cons will be after he decides to pull more or gets data from people with that. C6 was already mentioned so he'll definitely be collecting that sort of information.

Mr Snips
Jan 9, 2009



RosaParksOfDip posted:

Pulled chongyun from my 10x. Is he easy enough to build as a support? Seems pretty doable. I noticed there's that one dude who posts him in a comp as a dps but I don't have venti or sucrose so can't do the same shenanigans. Unless Jean works as a sub.

I wouldn't bother unless your main dps is a bow or catalyst user. His skill fucks with everyone else's melee elemental attacks and I really did not like the feeling of having to play around him instead of how every other support works where they complement your main dps

Ludicrous Speed
Aug 29, 2004

throttle up flaps down
power up gears down
I had 140 rolls saved up to get Razor and some of his constellations from today's banner. I got:

1x Chongyun
1x Bennet
4x Razor
8x Xinyan
1x Zhongli

Guess it's time to read up on how to use Xinyan. :psyduck:

Flair
Apr 5, 2016
Interesting, I got Dolorous Strike achievement in Chongyun's Trial, but I cannot get any achievement under Elemental Specialist (edit:) during the trial.

Anyway, Chongyun is fun to play.

Flair fucked around with this message at 03:21 on Dec 2, 2020

MajorBonnet
May 28, 2009

How did I get here?
I was ~75 into pity and did about 60 rolls. Got Zhongli, C1 Chongyun, C1 Razor, and Xinyan. I'd love to pick up some constellations for Xinyan, I had a lot of fun with both her and popsicle boy in their trials. The Razor trial was glitched for me, no enemies spawned.

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!
C6 Xinyan only works with charged attacks, and as someone who started with Keqing, charged attacks basically suck rear end. If there's a Xinyan build I doubt it will lean on that.

Bussamove
Feb 25, 2006

Hey, charged attacks are great!

On Klee.

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HMS Beagle
Feb 13, 2009



Wanted at least one Razor and one Xinyan. Got two of each in the one 10 roll I did. I'm not really close to pity so I'll probably wait until the next banner. Bennett is now the only 4 star I don't have and I want that boy.

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