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If I were a person in the DC universe I think I'd probably be skeptical about Superman being an extraterrestrial in the first place, especially if his personal history wasn't public. Like he looks human, speaks perfect English, seems just as likely he's some secret government experiment. Once Aquaman showed up I'd be a full blown conspiracy theorist. In the DCEU do the public know anything about the Justice League themselves, you see some press around Batman and Superman but is it even implied Clark has done an interview like in the old movies? They've seen Wonder Woman at least, but there weren't cameras around for the end battle right? Basically what I'm saying is the news papers are definitely calling Diana Superwoman, her costume almost matches.
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Its definitely gotta be confusing. You got "aliens" like Supes and Zod, then you got aliens like Doomsday and parademons. Then you have non aliens like Wonder Woman and Flash and Aquaman and half robot aliens in Cyborg? Even if that DID all make cable news and Bruce and Dianna were savvy enough to "manage" it that's gonna challenge a lot of people's best attempts to wrap their minds around the world changing events and yeah, lead to a lot of misunderstanding, suspicion, and conspiracy. I actually think I haven't seen anyone really tackle how much this stuff would gently caress people up psychologically. We'd have cults, conspiracies, terrorists, militias, everything. People would lose their absolute poo poo if aliens and mermen started showing up wrecking poo poo. People's entire grasps of reality would be flipped eight ways to Sunday. That's part of what I liked about that Alex Jones teaser at the end of Brightburn. I wanna see the movie where people lose their minds about superheroes. Movies touch on it a little but never dive in with how crazy it would really get.
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Dec 2, 2020 05:29
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You know I've honestly had the idea of a superhero comic that deals with the questionof just what would the geopolitical landscape would look like in a comic book universe.
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Dec 2, 2020 05:38
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STAC Goat posted:I actually think I haven't seen anyone really tackle how much this stuff would gently caress people up psychologically. We'd have cults, conspiracies, terrorists, militias, everything. People would lose their absolute poo poo if aliens and mermen started showing up wrecking poo poo. People's entire grasps of reality would be flipped eight ways to Sunday. That's part of what I liked about that Alex Jones teaser at the end of Brightburn. I wanna see the movie where people lose their minds about superheroes. Movies touch on it a little but never dive in with how crazy it would really get. I mean... you're basically describing a comic universe there. Certainly explains why they're so busy.
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Dec 2, 2020 06:27
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You can read Marvels as it sort of goes into all of that.
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Dec 2, 2020 07:07
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David D. Davidson posted:You know I've honestly had the idea of a superhero comic that deals with the questionof just what would the geopolitical landscape would look like in a comic book universe. Imagine if the balance of superheroes was as America-and-Western-Europe-centric as the comics depict. A new style of colonialism where a guy in a mask and tights is the equivalent of better rifles and a navy or the threat of economic ruination. Even if someone Superman-level decided not to participate in such action, would they be willing or able to keep everyone else in check? Stick a bulletproof guy in a uniform, send him with a spec ops team that lets him take point, and you could get a lot done before word got out that something hinkey was going on.
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Dec 2, 2020 09:01
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Sgt. Politeness posted:In the DCEU do the public know anything about the Justice League themselves, you see some press around Batman and Superman but is it even implied Clark has done an interview like in the old movies? Lois interviews him after the military detains him, no?
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Dec 2, 2020 09:26
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There's been a handful of societal level "What if superheroes?" kind of stories, occasionally even from the big two in the form of minor plot threads and one-off and/or AU stories, but the ones I've always tend to turn into an actual superhero comics story instead of an exploration of the hypothetical affects on a world that the concept of superheroes would have. Kingdom Come and Marvels come to mind, along with the alternate historical path that the world ends up taking in Zdarsky's Spider-Man: Life Story where the cold war escalates because of Iron Man basically being an agent of the US government and Captain America goes AWOL in Nam to fight atrocities regardless of which side is comitting them. I personally would like a slightly more dry, big ideas, faux-documentary, alternate historical take on the subject that doesn't quite just turn into a regular rear end superhero comic by the end. But then again I'm a weirdo, so I don't know how well that kind of thing would sell.
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Dec 2, 2020 14:29
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Bruceski posted:Imagine if the balance of superheroes was as America-and-Western-Europe-centric as the comics depict. A new style of colonialism where a guy in a mask and tights is the equivalent of better rifles and a navy or the threat of economic ruination. Even if someone Superman-level decided not to participate in such action, would they be willing or able to keep everyone else in check? Stick a bulletproof guy in a uniform, send him with a spec ops team that lets him take point, and you could get a lot done before word got out that something hinkey was going on. Mark Millar account spotted.
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Dec 2, 2020 16:36
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Lurdiak posted:"And it's all oxygen down there but there's a bubbly filter and everyone's hair turns into a bad cg effect" "And what if I told you octopi could play the drums?"
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Dec 2, 2020 17:29
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Dawgstar posted:"And what if I told you octopi could play the drums?" I'd pedantically lecture you about how "octopodes" is more correct.
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Dec 2, 2020 17:58
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Bruceski posted:Imagine if the balance of superheroes was as America-and-Western-Europe-centric as the comics depict. A new style of colonialism where a guy in a mask and tights is the equivalent of better rifles and a navy or the threat of economic ruination. Even if someone Superman-level decided not to participate in such action, would they be willing or able to keep everyone else in check? Stick a bulletproof guy in a uniform, send him with a spec ops team that lets him take point, and you could get a lot done before word got out that something hinkey was going on. My pitch is more The West Wing in a comic book universe. A Luke Cage pastiche whose history is deeply tied to the Civil Rights movement runs is elected president and now he has to navigate both national and global politics in a comic book universe. There are two or maybe three other world leaders with comic book adjacent pasts, The Prime Minister of the UK is a John Constantine clone who traded cheating demons for politics and Japan's is an Ex-Magical Girl.
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Dec 2, 2020 19:22
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David D. Davidson posted:My pitch is more The West Wing in a comic book universe. I like it.
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Dec 2, 2020 20:56
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Rhyno posted:She's been rumored but she shot it down. I know a lot of the clickbait sites have claimed she was cast but it doesn't sound like it. https://twitter.com/comingsoonnet/status/1334224776118714368?s=21 Looks like she stumbled onto the hawkeye set and is hanging out with pizza dog by accident, then? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DM2Cb3EgDuI
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Dec 2, 2020 21:06
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There's been zero confirmation or even official statements at all until that thing you just linked. Why wouldn't Disney put out a press release confirming it?
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Dec 2, 2020 21:08
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Rhyno posted:There's been zero confirmation or even official statements at all until that thing you just linked. My guess is that whatever was keeping her from actually signing up (the apple tv show?) became a non-issue due to the pandemic delays so she's now on board but they were waiting to announce it sometime later.
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Dec 2, 2020 21:11
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Seems very weird. Possibly not wanting another misstep like with She Hulk. Also you can't even tell that it's her in that footage.
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Dec 2, 2020 21:13
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Or they wanted to announce it on their own terms. Companies can be stupid like that. Like when Benedict Cumberbatch was playing Khan in Into Darkness and everyone knew Benedict Cumberbatch was playing Khan in Into Darkness but Paramount kept insisting that Benedict Cumberbatch was absolutely not playing Khan in Into Darkness and then Benedict Cumberbatch was totally Khan. In Into Darkness. Like everyone knew he was.
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Dec 2, 2020 21:15
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Phylodox posted:Or they wanted to announce it on their own terms. Companies can be stupid like that. Like when Benedict Cumberbatch was playing Khan in Into Darkness and everyone knew Benedict Cumberbatch was playing Khan in Into Darkness but Paramount kept insisting that Benedict Cumberbatch was absolutely not playing Khan in Into Darkness and then Benedict Cumberbatch was totally Khan. In Into Darkness. Like everyone knew he was. Arkham Knight is 100% not Jason Todd!
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Dec 2, 2020 21:17
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Phylodox posted:Or they wanted to announce it on their own terms. Companies can be stupid like that. Like when Benedict Cumberbatch was playing Khan in Into Darkness and everyone knew Benedict Cumberbatch was playing Khan in Into Darkness but Paramount kept insisting that Benedict Cumberbatch was absolutely not playing Khan in Into Darkness and then Benedict Cumberbatch was totally Khan. In Into Darkness. Like everyone knew he was. There's no incentive to hide her identity tho There's actually a disincentive since you are cutting off a demo to advertise to even
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She posted this on instagram and the Hawkeye directors put 3 hearts there. https://www.instagram.com/p/CIPg2lFBjSr/ I assume that Marvel is waiting to announce it and they can't for whatever reason. Or they've planned to drop it all on a date already.
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Dec 2, 2020 21:31
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Phylodox posted:Or they wanted to announce it on their own terms. Companies can be stupid like that. Like when Benedict Cumberbatch was playing Khan in Into Darkness and everyone knew Benedict Cumberbatch was playing Khan in Into Darkness but Paramount kept insisting that Benedict Cumberbatch was absolutely not playing Khan in Into Darkness and then Benedict Cumberbatch was totally Khan. In Into Darkness. Like everyone knew he was. Right, but with that we knew Cumberbatch was in the movie. This is more akin to the game of footsie Marvel had with Cumberbatch over Doctor Strange.
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site posted:There's no incentive to hide her identity tho Since when do advertising execs behave according to reason as opposed to their egos? The scoop was theirs to drop, and they’re gonna be the ones to drop it, even if they have to deny what everyone knows is true, even if they end up looking foolish in the end.
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it's not even a scoop, it's just a poorly framed phone recording of 15 seconds of a scene being filmed snuck out by some crew member
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Dec 2, 2020 21:49
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Sgt. Politeness posted:I keep forgetting that the Hawkeye series isn't just a Kate Bishop show. Covid is the reason why. I think there were supposed to be at least two of the Marvel shows out on Disney+ by now, but the pandemic slowed things down and with Black Widow getting delayed they can't release any of the TV stuff anyway without loving up story beats. Bruceski posted:Imagine if the balance of superheroes was as America-and-Western-Europe-centric as the comics depict. A new style of colonialism where a guy in a mask and tights is the equivalent of better rifles and a navy or the threat of economic ruination. Even if someone Superman-level decided not to participate in such action, would they be willing or able to keep everyone else in check? Stick a bulletproof guy in a uniform, send him with a spec ops team that lets him take point, and you could get a lot done before word got out that something hinkey was going on. Isn't this just parts of Watchmen?
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Dec 2, 2020 22:00
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This seems pretty definitive. https://twitter.com/itsjustanx/status/1334271776826646529?s=19
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Dec 3, 2020 00:39
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rantmo posted:This seems pretty definitive. That outfit is killer.
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Dec 3, 2020 01:23
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I can only imagine (because I refuse to read them) the comments based solely on how she happens to be holding the bow in those between frame/out of context photos.
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Dec 3, 2020 03:48
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I'm so happy they're following/taking from Fraction's run. That said, I will 100% call the show poo poo forever if there isn't a dedicated Lucky episode
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Dec 3, 2020 03:53
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rantmo posted:This seems pretty definitive. I like the nobs who are complaining that she isn't comics accurate.
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Dec 3, 2020 09:03
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None of that poo poo matters because Lucky: confirmed.
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Dec 3, 2020 09:16
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twistedmentat posted:I like the nobs who are complaining that she isn't comics accurate. Because of... her clothes? She wears like a dozen different outfits in the comic this is based on.
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I know it's tired by now, but I'm still stunned I'm alive for a Marvel Universe on screen that has Kate Bishop, but not Reed Richards or Wolverine. I love the MCU.
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SonicRulez posted:I know it's tired by now, but I'm still stunned I'm alive for a Marvel Universe on screen that has Kate Bishop, but not Reed Richards or Wolverine. I love the MCU. Those guys will both be in the MCU in the very tangible future so don't die if you can help it.
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Dec 3, 2020 15:47
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Does anyone have the clip of the blade Trinity commentary where he's talking about Snipes refusing to open his eyes?
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Dec 3, 2020 15:52
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Honestly I'm really thankful the MCU was forced by Marvel's desperate selling off of film properties to use people other than their heavyweights. It's been nice seeing other characters be important.
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Rhyno posted:Those guys will both be in the MCU in the very tangible future so don't die if you can help it. I'm trying, but I live in the United States and only half of us are in support of that idea. I want to see Blade 
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Dec 3, 2020 15:57
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Aphrodite posted:Because of... her clothes? And the critical thing, other than the presence of Lucky, is that the purple she's wearing is perfect.
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rantmo posted:And the critical thing, other than the presence of Lucky, is that the purple she's wearing is perfect. Yeah it doesn't have the weird hip holes, but like... That's Kate just from a glance.
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That's probably not her actual costume. But you clearly know it's Kate from that look, so it rules.
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