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Hazo posted:Maleficent wasn't a remake. Nobody's mentioned Cinderella either, and that was actually pretty decent.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Nobody's mentioned Cinderella either, and that was actually pretty decent. What little I've seen of Cinderella, passing in and out of rooms where other people were watching it on my way elsewhere, it seemed perfectly serviceable. It was "a movie". I guess it also helps a bit when you give Prince Charming some actual lines and a personality, cast Richard Madden to play him and then pair him up with Nonso Anozie so every second they're on screen together they just crackle with charisma and grab your attention.
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I’m not even mad at the palps poo poo any more because it’s so funny. And I got another good Ian McDermid performance out of it lol
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Dec 3, 2020 00:12
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Palp fucks, Supreme Chancellor of Booty
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Butterfly Valley posted:No, you invented a meaning that wasn't there and they corrected you that that wasn't a reasonable inference from their post Came across to me initially as if to say The Mandalorian wouldn't have as good or impressive visuals or direction if it were an animated show instead of live-action. That's it, that's was I felt was implied. Then the argument was clarified that you just can't swap mediums and expect the same quality. I half-agree, because that's really more dependent on the creatives behind the project, not the medium itself. I do think there's a valid argument on whether The Mandalorian would be just as popular if it were an animated show though. Because some people have their own hangups about the media they ingest. Which is fine, not gonna tell someone otherwise. And I never said animation and live-action are the same lmao.
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He’s gonna dew it all night long. Also 
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Its Rinaldo posted:Palp fucks, Supreme Chancellor of Booty I remember there was like a whole week and a half where SyFyWyFy was doing nothing but talking about Palpatine's dick. It was both awesome and gross.
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Cartoon Man posted:Aladdin remake with Will Smith was amazing and I’m fully prepared to die on this hill. They cast an actual arab in the lead which is p. great Also many of the other actors are of arab / persian descent. That's lowkey rather progressive for that sort of flick. Herostratus fucked around with this message at 00:21 on Dec 3, 2020 |
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It’s never gross
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Nobody's mentioned Cinderella either, and that was actually pretty decent. Totally agreed. Whitney Houston loving owns and Brandy was perfect. 
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Epi Lepi posted:Can none of you read? Like for real, I literally have repeatedly said that same thing. I'm saying you cannot just change a live action thing to a cartoon or a cartoon to live action and expect the same quality. You have to approach different mediums differently because they are different mediums. Directorial techniques, shot composition, whatever will not always translate between medium one to one. I can read just fine I think  I just don't agree that if you were adapt Mandalorian verbatim into an animated show that it wouldnt be as good/appealing/whatever. It'd probably be just as good (maybe better!). That's all I'm saying. Sheesh.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Nobody's mentioned Cinderella either, and that was actually pretty decent. I honestly didn’t like it at all. I appreciated them doing their own thing (and casting Cate Blanchett as the evil step-mother and Helena Bonham Carter as the fairy godmother, when, on paper, I would have assumed they’d do the opposite), but I just found it to be a dull adaptation. Just a big bad of nothing that felt like it was racing to the finish line. Just my opinion.
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Hazo posted:Totally agreed. Whitney Houston loving owns and Brandy was perfect. Oh, now that was fun.
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teagone posted:Came across to me initially as if to say The Mandalorian wouldn't have as good or impressive visuals or direction if it were an animated show instead of live-action. That's it, that's was I felt was implied. This is not my argument but I got genuinely frustrated for the poster who clearly restated his point about 3 times while you still wilfully misinterpreted it to argue against the fictional one in your head. Go back and read the two posts clearly. quote:If the Mandalorian has been made as a cartoon like TCW/Rebels with absolutely nothing else changed about it I wonder how many people would think it sucks. quote:I mean that actually does matter, because part of what makes this show so enjoyable and impressive is the visual design and direction. That stuff would be different if this was a cartoon. At no point did he say animations are incapable of being incredible works of art with excellent visual design and direction and everything else. But they are created to work to the strengths of the medium, just as The Mandalorian was built around the strengths of live action. You cannot directly transpose one into the other and expect it to have anything like the same effect and this point is so bloody obvious it annoys me that I'm having to spell it out so slowly Edit: teagone posted:I just don't agree that if you were adapt Mandalorian verbatim into an animated show that it wouldnt be as good/appealing/whatever. It'd probably be just as good (maybe better!). That's all I'm saying. Sheesh. OK nevermind you're a lost cause
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Herostratus posted:They cast an actual arab in the lead which is p. great Yeah, but then they went hosed it all up by seriously considering make a spin-off Disney+ series centered around the one white dude in the film who has like 3 lines and was meant to be the butt of a joke until everyone got mad at them for it and shelved it.
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I honestly forgot there was a live-action remake of Beauty and the Beast. And then I went to look up how much money it took in at the box office just now and it made over a billion dollars lmao.
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Arcsquad12 posted:Ignoring the part where he calls A Fistful of Dollars "The Man with No Name", this video provides a pretty good summary of how Mando takes inspiration from weekly adventure shows like Samurai Jack and old westerns and samurai flicks. He's not wrong about the stylistic inspiration parts, but "it's a show about nothing" is a real unimaginative take. Sure, it's episodic, but it has themes. It's not immune to interpretation or incoherent in its messaging. Mostly, I think Mandalorian is great as a repudiation of the "end of history"-ness of Return of the Jedi. At the end of that movie, the Empire's dead and the heroes won. Everything was bad but now everything is good; the galaxy is fixed, so let's all Yub Nub till dawn. This show takes more seriously the idea that the Empire was a complex system. Its cruelty was not isolated to two men at the helm, and as its structures collapse, what they leave in their wake is the same chaos and corruption that the Old Republic failed to fix in its own time. It makes sense to borrow western or samurai movie tropes, because the shared central theme is lawlessness. Or more precisely, it's the need for normal individuals to intervene on behalf of the powerless because nobody and nothing else will. That's a powerful statement in the context of Star Wars, because SW is uniquely obsessed with prophecy, messianic heroes, divine purpose, or good and evil as broad forces in the universe. None of that actually matters to the average person in The Mandalorian; their reality sucks because of way more mundane reasons than Space Magic, like negligence or selfishness or unintended consequence. It's a timely message for Americans in 2020, I think: the Evil Empire fell, but nothing is fixed and nothing is materially any better because of it. Mando wants to find a safe haven for the Child...but there IS no safe haven. Everyone is living in the same wreckage, and no part of it is much better than any other.
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Butterfly Valley posted:OK nevermind you're a lost cause drat, that's harsh.
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nine-gear crow posted:Yeah, but then they went hosed it all up by seriously considering make a spin-off Disney+ series centered around the one white dude in the film who has like 3 lines and was meant to be the butt of a joke until everyone got mad at them for it and shelved it. Welp. Nice try Disney.
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teagone posted:drat, that's harsh. You like TLJ you see.... Lmao.
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Xealot posted:He's not wrong about the stylistic inspiration parts, but "it's a show about nothing" is a real unimaginative take. Sure, it's episodic, but it has themes. It's not immune to interpretation or incoherent in its messaging. So it is a deconstruction, is what you're saying
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teagone posted:I honestly forgot there was a live-action remake of Beauty and the Beast. And then I went to look up how much money it took in at the box office just now and it made over a billion dollars lmao. same reason those youtube channels where kids play with firetruck toys and poo poo make a bajillion bucks. hosed up
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CelticPredator posted:You like TLJ you see.... Lmao.
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Butterfly Valley posted:"I think a cartoon werner herzog would be perfectly capable of emulating his live action performance" - an idiot, probably Similar to James Spader, 99% of Werner Herzog's acting comes from his voice, so actually, yeah.
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teagone posted:I honestly forgot there was a live-action remake of Beauty and the Beast. And then I went to look up how much money it took in at the box office just now and it made over a billion dollars lmao. My girlfriend at the time took me to see it because she was obsessed with the animated version. We spent most of the film making out. 10/10 would watch again. (I barey remember what it was about)
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Butterfly Valley posted:This is not my argument but I got genuinely frustrated for the poster who clearly restated his point about 3 times while you still wilfully misinterpreted it to argue against the fictional one in your head. Go back and read the two posts clearly. Thank you for comprehending I thought I was going crazy. teagone posted:Lmao. I'm a big fan of TLJ too so at least we can agree on that.
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Smythe posted:also rabid disney freaks. can never count those out reckon... I like the parks well enough. They’re fun but I don’t get the hardcore obsession. Like I saw a video of someone who made a part of Disney in their basement during the pandemic to feel better lmao https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS504U1WjJg Warning, annoying host
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Herostratus posted:My girlfriend at the time took me to see it because she was obsessed with the animated version. Peasant girl wants to gently caress a loup-garou
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Epi Lepi posted:I'm a big fan of TLJ too so at least we can agree on that.  I got what you were saying, to be clear. I just don't agree that if The Mandalorian remained the same outside of it being animated in Clone Wars/Rebels/whatever style, that it wouldn't be as good/the same/etc. I have a clear bias though so 
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CelticPredator posted:It wouldn’t have been as prolific that’s for sure. I agree with this. I would love it all the same though. Animated baby Grogu would be cute as hell I bet.
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The Mandolorian is the only water cooler discussion TV show on right now. It would not be getting anywhere near the buzz and social media impact had it been a cartoon. But yes it would’ve worked fine as a cartoon and most of us here would’ve enjoyed it. But Disney wants subscribers for their streaming platform and that means roping in viewers who just aren’t going to watch cartoon Star Wars no matter the quality.
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Cartoon Man posted:The Mandolorian is the only water cooler discussion TV show on right now. It would not be getting anywhere near the buzz and social media impact had it been a cartoon. But yes it would’ve worked fine as a cartoon and most of us here would’ve enjoyed it. But Disney wants subscribers for their streaming platform and that means roping in viewers who just aren’t going to watch cartoon Star Wars no matter the quality. This is the definitive post on the matter by the only qualified poster imo.
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Everyone posted:Similar to James Spader, 99% of Werner Herzog's acting comes from his voice, so actually, yeah. Animated Herzog would own pretty hard, I agree. His character all stylized like Dooku or Palatine from CW? With that voice? 
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CelticPredator posted:I like the parks well enough. They’re fun but I don’t get the hardcore obsession. Like I saw a video of someone who made a part of Disney in their basement during the pandemic to feel better lmao pretty amazing. apparently hes been working on it for 12 years, including planning etc. not my cup of tea but some incredible attention to detail and craftsmanship.
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nine-gear crow posted:Ganking Snoke as the capstone to act two of The Last Jedi was loving brilliant because it gave Kylo Ren the springboard to assume his destined place as the real big bad of the Sequel Trilogy, which he would have rocked as. But then Reddit got mad so between 8 and 9 he slammed face first into a giant glass ceiling that had PALPATINE WUZ HEAR spray painted on it like he was Wile E. Coyote or something and fell so hard back to the start of his character arc he actually loving whistled on the way down. "Apprentice murders Master and gains the right to wear the Sith #1 shirt at the company retreat" is the only part of the Sith career path that hasn't been on screen, so it would have been pretty awesome to have that play out. Likewise, I would have been interested in seeing Grandpalpatine's offer being accepted by Rey for reasons I haven't exactly figured out yet. Maybe because the other Sith job offers pretty much went like "no, I'll fall down this hole instead" Luke and "....ok, I guess I'll be angry now  " with Anakin. Rey being all "Yes. I am completely onboard with this. Do you guys provide the black cape or do I have to bring my own?" would have been different.
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