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Skwirl posted:Jessica Jones premiered in her Marvel MAX series Alias where she's a hard drinking private detective who used to be a superhero.  but for absolute clarity, these images do not predate the marvel max series alias for which jessica jones was exclusively created for and debuted in, and in which these images appeared.
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Ghostlight posted:for the record, these images showing jessica jones crushing on peter parker in high school pre-date that new avengers comic by six years. I'll admit I've mostly seen her in the Netflix series though, so I'm not the scholar here.
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That is also not eyecandy and she absolutely wasn'tCleretic posted:created as one of Spider-Man's random classmates, there to color scenes and provide some early 'oooh maybe a girl likes Peter' color.
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yeah i'm not disagreeing with you on that, but her in high school having a crush on peter parker isn't an invention of that new avengers comic - it's in the initial alias run and that new avengers comic is a call back to it.
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Tin Can Hit Man posted:Obviously Gwenpool is referring to Jessica Jones' Jewel days, which were before she came into publication. Checks out. 
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Push El Burrito posted:Your dog believes America deserved 9/11. Their dog is right.
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Ghostlight posted:yeah i'm not disagreeing with you on that, but her in high school having a crush on peter parker isn't an invention of that new avengers comic - it's in the initial alias run and that new avengers comic is a call back to it. Okay, I forgot what issue it happened in, but it absolutely wasn't how she was introduced or created was my point. Both were written by Bendis anyways
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Push El Burrito posted:Your dog believes America deserved 9/11. Freedom of religion means that I cannot discipline her over that. I can definitely discipline her for chewing on the cat or for trying to bum food, but not for religious beliefs.
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The Question IRL posted:Freedom of religion means that I cannot discipline her over that. 
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Woebin posted:That seems to be one Jessica Campbell, though? Also isn't Jess' hair naturally black? I’m no scholar either, but changing her name and dyeing her hair seem absolutely on-brand for JJ
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Woebin posted:That seems to be one Jessica Campbell, though? Also isn't Jess' hair naturally black? Jessica Campbell Jones Cage was born Jessica Campbell, but after her parents were killed in the accident that gave her powers, she was adopted by the Jones family.
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Tin Can Hit Man posted:Obviously Gwenpool is referring to Jessica Jones' Jewel days, which were before she came into publication. Woebin posted:That seems to be one Jessica Campbell, though? Also isn't Jess' hair naturally black?  Pictured: Noted eye candy character Jessica Jones as depicted by noted cheesecake artist Michael Gaydos. Endless Mike fucked around with this message at 14:53 on Dec 3, 2020 |
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Endless Mike posted:That's not the text though. The wording is "invented to be eye candy and given development later". Jessica Jones was invented to be a hard-drinking private eye with a shameful superhero past. Jewel was certainly part of Bendis's original plan for her, but it was explicitly part of her character development. Jewel as a character didn't exist before Jessica Jones as we know her, and Gwenpool would certainly know that. I'm being a facetious nerd and agree with everybody that it's really really stupid to put her there. 
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Endless Mike posted:You should go read Alias! It's very good! As noted, she was adopted after being orphaned, and her hair is generally colored brown in the comics. It's not a major character trait or anything, so they stuck with Krystin Ritter's natural hair color for the show.
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I think the eye-candy bit is just one of many jokes in that series that absolutely did not land and didn't even make much sense. Leah Williams is really really great but I really feel like her Gwen-pool was just... shooting for something and not quite hitting it, but I have no idea what it was trying to be. So much of the weird horny energy of it comes off as kind of stilted, this bit included.
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How Wonderful! posted:I think the eye-candy bit is just one of many jokes in that series that absolutely did not land and didn't even make much sense. Leah Williams is really really great but I really feel like her Gwen-pool was just... shooting for something and not quite hitting it, but I have no idea what it was trying to be. So much of the weird horny energy of it comes off as kind of stilted, this bit included. I haven't really followed it much after the first issue, but everything I've seen of that series just gives me the distinct impression that they don't really quite *get* what people love about Gwenpool. Like they're trying to emulate a sense of humor that is just ever beyond their scope or grasp. You kids like the nonsensical me-mes and the cynical "woke" humor, right? This is what you want, right?
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Yeah, it definitely looks like the sort of thing that's supposed to demonstrate nuance and awareness of the company's past, without actually having nuance or awareness of the company's past. Funny thing about "lol memes" is that IIRC, that came up in Keromaru5 fucked around with this message at 21:47 on Dec 3, 2020 |
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 Detective Eye #2 (1940)  Superboy #55 (1957)  The Defenders #10 (1973)  The Sensational She-Hulk #17 (1990)  Spider-Man and the Black Cat: The Evil That Men Do #1 (2002)
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Darthemed posted:
You're monologuing about using humor to deflect the reality of the violence you inflict, while quoting a classic Looney Toons skit without context or comedic timing, Spidey. 
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Cleretic posted:I might be fumbling a google confirmation, but I think Jessica Jones was based on (and later confirmed to be) one of the random classmates from early Spider-Man. That sounds like total horseshit. You might as well say a random guy in a crowd shot in an early ASM issue is an early appearance by Kamala Khan's dad.
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Tin Can Hit Man posted:You're monologuing about using humor to deflect the reality of the violence you inflict, while quoting a classic Looney Toons skit without context or comedic timing, Spidey. Yeah, this is not Spidey's tight five. I always liked the one where his internal monologue is about how he uses humor to distract himself from how scared he is.
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Lurdiak posted:That sounds like total horseshit. You might as well say a random guy in a crowd shot in an early ASM issue is an early appearance by Kamala Khan's dad. quote:Early on in the conceptual stage of the project, Jessica Jones was intended to be Jessica Drew, the alter-ego of Marvel's Spider-Woman. Drew was one of Bendis' favorite Marvel characters and she wasn't being used in any major way by Marvel at the time.
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Bendis of all people saying "Which is good, because had we used Jessica it would have been off continuity and bad storytelling." is an hearty 
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Keromaru5 posted:Yeah, it definitely looks like the sort of thing that's supposed to demonstrate nuance and awareness of the company's past, without actually having nuance or awareness of the company's past.
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Tin Can Hit Man posted:You're monologuing about using humor to deflect the reality of the violence you inflict, while quoting a classic Looney Toons skit without context or comedic timing, Spidey. Almost as if it was written by a complete hack
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Pastry of the Year posted:Bendis of all people saying "Which is good, because had we used Jessica it would have been off continuity and bad storytelling." is an hearty Dang, got there before I could
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Skwirl posted:Almost as if it was written by a complete hack Well, they can't all be Alan Moores. But if he keeps at it, he might still get good enough to make a name for himself some day.
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Drakyn posted:Useless postscript: Gwenpool's original (and good) run was written by Christopher Hastings - Ryan North was the Squirrel Girl Guy. Ryan North is best known for dinosaur comics, Christopher Hastings did Dr. McNinja. *head desk* I always get those two mixed up.
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Tin Can Hit Man posted:I haven't really followed it much after the first issue, but everything I've seen of that series just gives me the distinct impression that they don't really quite *get* what people love about Gwenpool. Like they're trying to emulate a sense of humor that is just ever beyond their scope or grasp. You kids like the nonsensical me-mes and the cynical "woke" humor, right? This is what you want, right? The frustrating thing is that Gwenpool explicitly doesn't like "meme" jokes, one of the best gags in her original run is when she meets Deadpool and is aghast that people think she's like him in any way and notes that she's never found his style of comedy funny. There's definitely silly stuff in Unbelievable Gwenpool, but it's absurdism and meta-humour about the comic format, not references and memes.
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Wonder Woman #764: Now featuring the return of Maxwell Lord (if you don't follow DC stuff, he has mind control)
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TwoPair posted:(if you don't follow DC stuff, he has mind control) And it causes him nosebleeds when he uses it.
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TwoPair posted:Wonder Woman #764: Now featuring the return of Maxwell Lord I can't believe they would go after Linus Tech Tips like this.
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Pastry of the Year posted:
I love that he's driving around in his bug IN COSTUME. I'm imagining that's because it's awkward getting changed in the front boot of a bug.
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This is from Mother Panic/Batman if anybody is interested in checking it out. I was just rereading all that stuff a few days ago since Gerard Way's Doom Patrol came up somewhere.
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