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Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

WHITE NOISE
GENERATOR

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I'd accept "reduced damage from fire" in exchange for "briefly malfunctions when wet."

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Oxygenpoisoning
Feb 21, 2006
The problem on pubs is 90% of demos are demoknights so it’s sometimes comes down to a soldier or heavy just because of the composition of your team.

Taciturn Tactician
Jan 27, 2011

The secret to good health is a balanced diet and unstable healing radiation
Lipstick Apathy

drrockso20 posted:

Honestly it's kinda weird that buildings don't take reduced damage from fire

the pyro does not need to be worse

Solanumai
Mar 26, 2006

It's shrine maiden, not shrine maid!

Taciturn Tactician posted:

the pyro does not need to be worse

* Buildings take reduced damage from fire
* Sentries can now be pushed with air blasts and knocked over like the turrets from Half Life

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos
buildings take no damage from fire
you can now reflect bullets

Otacon
Aug 13, 2002


Spy should get a new sapper that hacks the sentry and shoots its own team for a few seconds

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine

Taciturn Tactician posted:

the pyro does not need to be worse

I'm not saying it's a good idea, just surprising

I definitely think they should take reduced damage from Sniper rifles though

Jippa
Feb 13, 2009
I don't ever play spy but I enjoy watching clips. Baiting the rockets and then surfing them to get the med is quality. Also, really good movement to get into place against other skilled players who are actively spy checking constantly and protecting their med.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TvV_-uzncI

ArfJason
Sep 5, 2011
oh my god
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDlgOUOJqWk

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

:|

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

Lmao it loads the whole map at once WHY

Oxygenpoisoning
Feb 21, 2006

Grapplejack posted:

Lmao it loads the whole map at once WHY

Because gently caress your GPU, that’s why.

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos

what in the hell is that

CodfishCartographer
Feb 23, 2010

Gadus Maprocephalus

Pillbug

Grapplejack posted:

Lmao it loads the whole map at once WHY

When I used to be big into TF2 mapmaking like 10 years ago, optimizing the map was a huge task. Often the layout of the map itself, on both a micro and macro scale, had to be designed with it in mind. Properly blocking out visleafs and occlusion blocks was legitimately an artform that took hours upon hours of refining and practicing. It was what separated good maps from great ones.

lmao looks like that poo poo don't matter no more

Oxygenpoisoning
Feb 21, 2006
https://store.steampowered.com/news/78083/

Smissmas update is out.

Edit: I’m stupid and didn’t realize the unoptimized map was from the update!

Oxygenpoisoning fucked around with this message at 02:49 on Dec 4, 2020

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004


Is this a new bug? I don't think I've ever seen this one.

Otacon
Aug 13, 2002


Oxygenpoisoning posted:

https://store.steampowered.com/news/78083/

Smissmas update is out.

Edit: I’m stupid and didn’t realize the unoptimized map was from the update!

free backpack expander just for logging in? don't mind if i do!

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

Valve if you're doing community fixes team Comtress is literally right there

Krataar
Sep 13, 2011

Drums in the deep

Is there an up to date code or script repository for servers?

Colapops
Nov 21, 2007

I feel really, really dumb but I got scammed. Some dude faked me out with a fake trade bot and somehow none of the extremely obvious red flags bothered me enough to tell him off. I've reported the account that scammed me and the fake bot to Steam, but now my item has reappeared on trading sites with a clear link back to me (since every item ID is unique).

I don't think there's anything anyone can actually do, but does anyone have advice? I'm still really mad at myself for falling for it.

Otacon
Aug 13, 2002


these christmas maps are terrible

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

I hear that the guy behind catbox and the latest bots has been brought to court by valve, he's going to prison

ArfJason
Sep 5, 2011
if only lol

Oxygenpoisoning
Feb 21, 2006
I mean if only that meant the proliferation of bots was quelled.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Grapplejack posted:

I hear that the guy behind catbox and the latest bots has been brought to court by valve, he's going to prison

Do you have a source?

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Otacon posted:

these christmas maps are terrible

Bring back Cactus Canyon

Paul MaudDib
May 3, 2006

TEAM NVIDIA:
FORUM POLICE

Fojar38 posted:

Bring back Cactus Canyon

I kinda liked the second stage they took out :/

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

WHITE NOISE
GENERATOR

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Fojar38 posted:

Bring back Cactus Canyon Asteroid

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

Fojar38 posted:

Do you have a source?

It's twilight sparkle, he posted a video that he got sued by valve and is going to jail and r/tf2 and other community places have been talking about it

Oxygenpoisoning
Feb 21, 2006
I’m pretty happy pier was finally added and hope it stays past the event. I used to play it a lot like 5 years ago, and it still is pretty good, albeit not at upward or bad water level.


Edit: the things I’ve seen for the bot maker, it is apparently he’s a troll and Valve is not going after him legally.

I also have seen he’s a horrible human being who tries ton exploit children.

Oxygenpoisoning fucked around with this message at 16:55 on Dec 8, 2020

Max Wilco
Jan 23, 2012

I'm just trying to go through life without looking stupid.

It's not working out too well...
I took a break from TF2 for a while, but I see there's new stuff for Smissmas.

Regarding Marketplace.TF, have the changes they planned affected prices or anything? I was curious if maybe the price of Tour of Duty tickets changed. I bought a few a month or two ago, but haven't used them.

ArfJason
Sep 5, 2011

Oxygenpoisoning posted:

I’m pretty happy pier was finally added and hope it stays past the event. I used to play it a lot like 5 years ago, and it still is pretty good, albeit not at upward or bad water level.


Edit: the things I’ve seen for the bot maker, it is apparently he’s a troll and Valve is not going after him legally.

I also have seen he’s a horrible human being who tries ton exploit children.

someone basing there entire persona on my little pony is a deranged pedophile? no way

GOOD TIMES ON METH
Mar 17, 2006

Fun Shoe
I redownloaded TF2 after like 5+ years and am pretty dumb about how servers or matchmaking work these days. If I want to play like non-serious normal old rear end TF2 I want to queue Casual, right? Is there some reason these servers fill empty slots with aimbotting bots? Is there a filter somewhere where I can tell it to join no-bot servers, even if it is just 3 v 3 or whatever, instead of getting immediately headshotted by one bot on a team otherwise full of humans? This seems insanely dumb

I'm guessing I just need to find a few private servers

cock hero flux
Apr 17, 2011



GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:

Is there some reason these servers fill empty slots with aimbotting bots?

no, there's just groups out there running literally thousands and thousands of aimbots who autojoin casual matchmaking servers. For like, no apparent reason other than to gently caress with it.

just go to the server browser and find a community server to play on.

GOOD TIMES ON METH
Mar 17, 2006

Fun Shoe
Ok, thanks. That is oddly reassuring since they were so prevalent that I thought Valve was doing it.

Oxygenpoisoning
Feb 21, 2006

GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:

Ok, thanks. That is oddly reassuring since they were so prevalent that I thought Valve was doing it.

No casual is awful. Depending on what region your in there should be a decent number of community servers. US and EU having the most.

Roth
Jul 9, 2016

Wutville has the energy of an orange map with a christmas theme slapped on.

Otacon
Aug 13, 2002


If your team can't hit the final capture point ASAP, enjoy being spawncamped in a 5x8 room with only one exit

Paul MaudDib
May 3, 2006

TEAM NVIDIA:
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While there are a lot of good community maps out there (I used to play on TopNotch a lot), there are also a lot that are actually just stinkers, white elephants that people have put a lot of effort into but just play badly for one reason or another.

I maintain that the Snowplow map that the End Of The Line people flipped a poo poo about was probably actually excluded because it was a bad map that wasn't really that fun to play.

The train gimmick was mildly weird but Valve could have said "set a normal timer like an A/D map, make the train hammer effect just an environment hazard, and it's in". I just think it didn't play all that well and they didn't want to tell them that.

Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 08:04 on Dec 17, 2020

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Girbot
Jan 13, 2009
My only problem with snowplow is I keep getting baited onto that rock held up by the crane and getting stuck like it's loving flypaper for soldiers.

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