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wiegieman posted:Mmm hmmm It doesn't look like anything to me?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx7RnwitTB4
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I would date a robot. I mean for a friend haha that would be silly if it was for me haha
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Kanfy posted:I'm really quite certain that it is not a thing, especially as the endings don't make any mention of the protagonist's fate in general. This seems like yet another case of memories blending together as what you're describing did happen to Alice when we heard from her for the final time.
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Nthing this thread as a wonderful place to dump lore and read about the other paths in the game. I'm honestly glad that the Paradox SR games didn't tie themselves too much into the known movers/shakers of the metaplot. I don't think I could be interested in Yet Another Richard Villiers Corporate Plot.
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Polaron posted:It doesn't look like anything to me? I understood that reference!
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RichardA posted:I'm 90% sure it is a thing - in a ending we haven't seen yet. Free APEX, join Vauclair, and isn't it in the time-skip? You are right and that might've well been what they were thinking about, I was only considering the actual ending texts and hadn't looked through all dialogue yet.
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Negative_Earth posted:Nthing this thread as a wonderful place to dump lore and read about the other paths in the game. yeah, the single biggest metaplot tie-in anywhere is Eiger's loyalty mission, and it demonstrates the faults of the metaplot pretty conclusively this is a gigantic event that is going to happen eventually, you can do nothing about it, eat it nerds, anyway here's a cool gun. cya!
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HardDiskD posted:I would date a robot. I mean for a friend haha that would be silly if it was for me haha ---PANZERDHRONE
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3cvarfKCsQ
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Part 87 - The Beginning (Ending Showcase 3, Part 1) But you know... is one city really that big of a price to pay for a chance for all of metahumanity to take control of its own future again? Isn't taking risks and accepting some unfortunate loss of life just business as usual for a shadowrunner? Like honestly, can we really say that literally everyone in that Aztechnology building we blew up really was some unscrupulous corporate villain, or did we simply acknowledge that even if there had been an ordinary worker or thirty in there just trying to live their lives, their fates simply weren't that important in the greater scope of things? In the end we got paid the money we desperately needed, the dangerous Bloodline project was buried, and most would be sure to agree that destroying the place was overall a net positive for the world regardless of who exactly was left behind in the rubble. And now we are facing an opportunity to bring about real change, the one genuine chance we'll ever get to rebel against our undying masters and tear down their unbreakable ivory towers threatening to keep mankind under their oppressive shadow for all eternity! It has to be worth it to try. I didn't want to face it before, but... I think that you're right. Your plan is a necessary evil. [He pauses.] Oh? And tell me, why the sudden change of heart? I don't want to see Berlin burn. But if that's what it'll take to save the rest of the world, then I think that you should do it. I won't try to stop you. What? Interesting. I am skeptical, of course. But interesting, nonetheless. If you're sincere about letting me finish my work, then lay down your arms and make yourself comfortable. Audran will be here momentarily to ensure your compliance. When my work is done, I will allow you to walk away free. If the absentees were here: quote:YOU WILL NOT ASSIST VAUCLAIR, ROSA. YOU WILL ELIMINATE HIM WITH MY ASSISTANCE. Please, stand down... I don't want to fight you. Vauclair's right. I wish that he weren't, but he is. Can't you see that? If this plan of his doesn't happen tonight, all of our sacrifice - Paul's death, Monika's death - will have been in vain. Guys, come on. We gotta look at the big picture here, the world is bigger than one little corner of Germany. The dragons don't care who they trample on their way to the top, we're talking innocent people crushed under their claws in numbers that make the population of one city pale in comparison! quote:Well... poo poo. I guess we're gonna fight now. Why do I always end up with the completely crazy ones? [Rage and grief play across Dietrich's face. His hands begin to glow.] God *drat* it, boss. Oh so that's it, huh? We were supposed to be a team! All this time we've spent together, all the battles we've fought side by side, all the blood we've shed for each other, you're just going to throw all of it away as soon as it's time to make some tough decisions? Bunch of turncoats! Knew we should've brought Dante instead, he at least knows the meaning of loyalty. Fine. But make no mistake: This is on you, not us. It's sad to see you on the wrong side, Eiger, but we are quite good at changing people's minds. Here's a target for you too, let's have one more go at our famous teamwork for old times' sake. Yeah, that's how we always did it, didn't we. That part's cheating though. Knew we should've kept those medical supplies to ourselves... No one should have to live such a harsh and unjust life as you did, Glory, but at least those other cultist kids we saved will get to grow up in a better world. Glad these boxes were here or that probably would've sucked pretty hard. And that drat spirit is somehow more loyal an ally than our own allies were, still zapping away at us. We lost all our ways of flushing people out of cover, so trench warfare it is for now. Oh hi again Eiger, good timing. drat! Sorry old man, really wish you could've been there with us to witness the ultimate act of dragonslaying. Guess your nephew will be there to keep you company soon, at least. Thanks for the assist Eiger, we always did make one hell of a pair. It was probably always going to be on the battlefield where we'd finally be separated for good, but it's a drat shame it had to happen like this. Hope you're at least convinced now, jackass, because we've just paid one hell of a price for a ticket to this show of yours. And we can see your lapdog has arrived as well, do make sure the muffler's on tight enough this time. [He turns to face his huffing security captain.] You're late, Audran. And there have been some... unexpected developments in your absence. Sorry, Doc. We were waking up the dragon's physical form. The process required some... care. Everything's ready for you down there, by the way. When you're ready, you should see to it. I will. [The old man gestures at you with a frail arm.] Now, as for our friend here... Go stick your balls in a blender, Audran. That won't be necessary, Audran. Our guest has agreed to a truce. She will not attempt to stop us from doing what must be done. If you say so, Doc. [He looks from you to the scene of carnage in the lab, and a broad grin creeps onto his face.] Somebody have a little accident in there? Looks messy. There was some... disagreement... within the group. [Vauclair nods at you.] But that's settled now, yes? I just killed my friends for this plan of yours, Vauclair. [Without waiting for a response, he stubs out his last cigarette.] Audran, watch over our guest, if you will. See to it that she's well treated - she's a friend now. I will begin the Panacea infusion process. [He nods.] Understood, Doctor Vauclair. It had better be, because the current one's feeling shittier by the minute. Vauclair walks off and we're left with this cuddly studmuffin again. Would I have killed my own teammates if I weren't sincere about this? Maybe. You could be that nuts. I've known guys who were. ...Guess that's fair enough. Think what you like. In the meantime, I'm going to sit here and wait for Vauclair to release the dragon. All right. You say that you're gonna stand down and let the Doc do his thing? Fine. [He shifts into a relaxed posture.] Let's just sit here, then. You don't make any sudden moves, and I don't start pushing buttons. [He glances at a chronometer mounted to his wrist.] It shouldn't take long now. The Doc is probably already pumping the dragon's body full of live virus. A fade to black, and a promise of a brighter future, with the reins of history back in the hands of man. Let's hope this really has been worth it. Next time: The conclusion. 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That's pretty grim, god drat.
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Just you wait.
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I really like Audran's writing in this section. He's unpleasant and suspicious, but not to the point of being paranoid or belligerent. Even the meatshield who should exist just to be pumped full of bullets feels like a fleshed-out character.
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Why won't they see? Why didn't they see?
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The best thing about the "Free APEX" route is that you can experience all the major variants of the ending with any save before the chat with Vauclair, as long as you don't mention what you did. Also I have that voiced quote from the beginning of NWN2 imprinted in my brain from my several attempts at replaying that game and quitting before the end of Chapter 1. I didn't even play the video and I still heard it in my head when I saw the post.
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Whybird posted:I really like Audran's writing in this section. He's unpleasant and suspicious, but not to the point of being paranoid or belligerent. Even the meatshield who should exist just to be pumped full of bullets feels like a fleshed-out character. I mean, I'd be suspicious too if someone spent so much time tracking my boss down that I put a bullet in their fixer's head, only for them to want to give my boss a hearty handshake and a cup of hot cocoa. EDIT: Also, Kanfy kind of glosses over the fact that this fight is hard. Even the worst team you can build to get you here is still plenty capable of tearing you apart 3-on-1, which is why it was so important to slap that Confusion on Eiger post-haste. Not only is she the biggest threat on the team in any circumstance, but it was all but necessary to at least partially even out the playing field, even with Dietrich not being too offensively powerful. Probably the "easiest" time you'd have is with a team of Dietrich, Blitz, and Dante (because, as Kanfy suggested, I vaguely remember that Dante will stick with you no matter what, dogs don't know no morality) and even then you're at risk of getting locked down instantly if the RNG isn't on your side. Unfortunately, that means having to go through all those fights leading up to Vauclair with a team of Dietrich, Blitz, and Dante. Dante's a good boy but he doesn't bring THAT much firepower. KataraniSword fucked around with this message at 15:31 on Dec 6, 2020 |
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apostateCourier posted:Hard disagree, but y'know. Generally a thing that resorts to VERY actionable death threats first is not a net positive for the world. quote:Rogue AI Goddess fucked around with this message at 17:03 on Dec 6, 2020 |
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quote:That won't be necessary, Audran. Our guest has agreed to a truce. $+(l.he) will not attempt to stop us from doing what must be done. Transcription error?
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JustJeff88 posted:Transcription error? Thanks, fixed it.
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Part 88 - The End (Ending Showcase 3, Part 2) Phew, been pretty crazy out there lately. Kinda weird to be back in this lab again, don't exactly have the best memories of this place. ...Why is Dante here, you ask? Because if not for the crew limit we would've brought him with us to Harfeld and unlike the rest of those traitors, he would've remained on our side to the end and subsequently appeared here as well. You can't reward that kind of loyalty with dragonfire, so he's here now as by all rights he should've always been and if you have a problem with that, that's your problem. Here's that terminal, let's see now... Victory report sounds nice and positive, could use some of that. Seems the Doc's been archiving what's gone down in the past year. Let's start from the top. quote:FEUERSCHWINGE RETURNS, ATTACKS BERLIN A strange-looking elf and his pale companion, huh. Almost hard to believe, that smug bastard seemed like he was going to live to give headaches to hapless shadowrunners for all eternity. quote:MYSTERY ILLNESS REACHES PANDEMIC STATUS You really would've thought that Lofwyr had known about Vauclair's project and tried to stop it. Seems in the end even dragons weren't as infallible and all-knowing as they always acted. quote:WYRM FLU: RESEARCHERS "CLOSE" TO FINDING CURE Was a lot less luck involved in this "tragedy" than they think, of course. quote:DRAGONS EXTINCT! WYRM FLU CLAIMS LIFE OF LAST KNOWN DRAGON If only they had all opted to use their powers for something else than selfish gain at metahumanity's expense. Imagine how much easier everything would've been. quote:LIVING IN A POST-DRAGON WORLD: S-K POWER STRUGGLE CONCLUDES, PROSPERITY INCREASES Yeah. The greatest good of all. Anyway, time to get a move on, shouldn't keep the great liberator of mankind waiting. All the nearby doors are now open. Checking the lab to the north first, we don't find the man himself but rather who looks to be one of his researchers. Please leave me alone. I'm busy. Where's Vauclair? The room on the other side of the hall. Now please, leave me alone and let me get back to work. Alright, sorry to have bothered you. [She nods and returns her attention to her workstation.] Ah, here we are, the true Dragonslayer himself. Tough old boot, still somehow standing despite his terminal illness. Rosa. [He nods at you.] Thank you for coming. Hello again, Doctor. Strange things have been happening out there, Vauclair. Do you have an explanation? An explanation? No. But I do have thoughts on the matter. Many terrible things have happened over the past few months, and I do not believe them to be coincidences. These events are connected somehow - I'm sure of it. Had we made the clearly well-thought-out decision of freeing APEX before joining Vauclair, we'd get a glimpse at the exciting new challenges it would've brought to our life in the past year: quote:That's news to me. I've been living off the grid for a while - no Matrix access, and I don't hear much news. Your message said that you needed me here. I'm here. Now tell me what you want. Isn't it obvious? I want your *help,* Rosa. I'm still alive, but only barely... I don't have the strength to do much myself any more, and Audran cannot handle this task on his own. What task? Tell me what you need. We need to save the world *again*? Even most actual heroes only need to deal with a global threat once before they retire, and we've never been one to begin with. We aren't a charity either, especially as it turned out that even wiping out a dominant species doesn't actually land a sack of nuyen on your lap. If you want my help, it's going to cost you. The world is crumbling around you, and all that you care about is money. [He lets loose a heavy sigh.] Very well, you will be paid. How much do you want? A hundred thousand nuyen? Two hundred? What is the world worth to you? We've found it to be worth increasingly less as time has passed to be honest, seemed like there was a lot more to the whole thing once upon a time. Buuuut since you're asking... Make it two-fifty, and you've got a deal. [Vauclair shakes his head in exasperation. He looks very, very tired.] Very well. Fine. Money holds no value for me anymore... and it won't for you, either, unless we can find a way to stop what is happening. So, you are mine now. Bought and paid for. Yes? You're ready to get to work? For that kind of money, I'm all yours, Doc. The first thing you'll need to do is get up to speed. I have terminals... information terminals throughout the lab. [He taps at his console with a frail hand.] There, I've unlocked them for you. And you want me to...? Read them. Familiarize yourself with what we're up against. Then come back to me, so that we might discuss. I'm on it. More reading, huh. Alright, come on then boy, let's put our eyeballs to work. Here's the first one. So what's been going down in the Windy City lately? quote:NEW STRAIN OF VITAS DISCOVERED; UCAS DECLARES CHICAGO CONTAINMENT ZONE Bug problems, apparently. Glad we're far away from that mess at least, cockroach-sized cockroaches are unpleasant enough. quote:CZ LABELED FAILURE; UCAS GOVERNMENT CALLS FOR CORPORATE HELP We might condemn the idea of throwing a whole city to the dogs, or dog-sized insects in this case, if not for... you know. That one thing we did. quote:ARES WHISTLE-BLOWER LEAKS CHICAGO BOMB PLANS From personal experience, it's a lot harder for anyone to tell on your plans to level a city if the potential leakers force you to kill them all first. And so, in the end? quote:NUCLEAR DEVASTATION IN CHICAGO Guess it's real windy in there now, huh. How could've Panacea have affected bug spirit activity on the other side of the ocean though? Let's go check another terminal. Ah, international crises, there's one thing humanity was already an ace at long before dragons appeared and started meddling in everybody's affairs. This first one seems to pertain to elves though. quote:ELVISH NATIONS CUT CONTACT WITH OUTSIDE WORLD If they know about something big, then how about sharing it with the rest of the class instead of just slamming all their doors shut? Is being needlessly cryptic and unforthcoming an elven genetic trait or something? ...Yes, John, I'm here. What's happening out there? It's a real mess out here, John - an absolutely tragic situation. Just to refresh the viewers at home, the permanent mana storm that surrounded the city of Sydney-- That was a benign mana storm, right? For most people, it was basically harmless. It's probably good that you're keeping your distance, Taylor... we're hearing some frightening things about this rift. I'm looking at a statement from renowned hermetic theorist Elizabeth Alder, which I'm going to read to you now... [He squints up at his teleprompter.] "This newly formed rift..." - again, these are the words of Dr. Alder - "...has essentially dragged Sydney off of our plane of experience and into another." She goes on to say that "the city and all of its people might still be out there, somewhere, but they're no longer on this Earth. Not as we know it." Sounds scary, Taylor. It certainly is, but that hasn't stopped some daring individuals here from doing what they can to try to help... [She turns to face the ork, thrusting her microphone toward his face. He takes a reflexive half-step backward.] Sir, could you tell us your name, and what you're doing here in Pyrmont today? How have you tried to help the city of Sydney? What have you been doing so far? [Liam shuffles uncomfortably.] Well, we've got aid stations set up for anyone who comes back through the rift... if anyone comes back through. They've got food, water, blankets... that kind of thing. I also sent in a few drones, but I lost contact with 'em as soon as they went in. I see. And have you done anything else? We... ah... we sent some volunteers. Brave chaps, you know - they walked into the rift itself, carrying food an' water and towing rope lines. My own cousin went in there. [He does his best to force a smile.] Haven't seen any of 'em come back yet, but there's still hope. Chilling news, Taylor. We'll all be rooting for those brave volunteers back here at home. Thanks, John. Yeah. Thanks. Stay tuned for more news about the Sydney rift as it comes in, and for more on-location reporting from our own Taylor Nguyen-- A "swirling ball of vibrant colors"? Is Oz evolving into Ozma? Whatever the case, it's clearly a bad time to be a major city right now. Not sure what we're supposed to do about something like that though, Vauclair better not expect us to march into any magical death rift. The third and final terminal is in the northern lab with the researcher we met earlier. Get the hunch that there won't be a lot of positive news on this one either. quote:GLOBAL BACKGROUND COUNT RISING But what are we supposed to do without our magic, it's all we have! Without it we're just a... a... person! This is harrowing news. Surprisingly, this increase in violence has been steady across the board. It doesn't matter where you go - the murder rates there are climbing. Even historically low-crime countries such as Monaco and Liechtenstein have been impacted by this. The pandemic of violence respects no borders. Now, the report doesn't speculate as to why the world has become more violent in the past year, but on popular Matrix sites, conspiracy theories are running wild. Another poster who chose to remain anonymous said that magic was the culprit. "Every time something crazy happens to the world, magic is to blame." Whatever the cause, the trend doesn't appear to be slowing down. Just this morning, a mass shooting in the CAS state of Arkansas left twenty-two dead and another fifteen wounded. We'll have more on that story when we come back. Where is all this bloodlust stemming from all of a sudden? This was supposed to be a brighter world, dammit. One last entry to go. quote:PARAZOOLOGICAL THREATS: THE RISING TIDE Creepy. And what was that one bit, "Grew fat on their screams"? Where did we hear... Oh. ...Think we're starting to get the picture now. And the worst part is that no matter how many different angles we try to look at that picture from, there's always something inescapably familiar about it. It's like a mirrored surface inexorably returning your gaze, no matter how hard you try to outmaneuver your own reflection. Alright. So things are in pretty bad shape out there. What are we supposed to do about it now? Have you gone over my research? Do you understand what we're up against? I've read all of the information on your terminals. If we hadn't, we could actually lie about this and have him summarize it for us. Not much point to it though. And? [He leans forward, intensity burning in his eyes.] Your thoughts? We could give a smart answer here: quote:(Intelligence 5) I can't say for sure what's going on here, but I have some ideas. ...but while it's pretty unlike us, let's not take the skill check this time and instead just go ahead and say what we're all really thinking here. I think it's pretty obvious, right? We did what we did, and a year later, everything is going to poo poo. [He turns to study his terminal, frowning.] Get your head in the game, Rosa, and drop the notion that what's happening is all about you. Doc, what we did a year ago involved a little more than just mowing our own lawn. But fine, let's see where he's going to take this then. All right then, go ahead. Tell me what *you* think is happening. Very well, Rosa. I will. We are looking at a natural - or, if you prefer, *paranatural* - catastrophe. Something has thrown off the balance between magic and reality. The magical background count of the world is rising, and as the Earth becomes more and more mana-rich, we're seeing increasingly devastating results. In order to solve the problem, we need to find a way to plug the leak. But we have a more immediate concern: the creatures that are invading our world are growing larger and more dangerous at an exponential rate. Our first priority must be finding a way to combat these things. *Then* we tackle the long-term challenge of staunching the tide of mana that is flowing into the world. You gotta give this guy credit, his commitment to fighting for metahumanity truly is the real deal. One foot in the grave and a lifetime of struggle behind him, and yet even now he's prepared to take battle stations in the face of an unknowable threat whose scale we can barely begin to understand. Have to admire that level of dedication. These things are magical in nature. Seems to me that we need to find a magical solution. Magic might work in the short term, but as the global background count rises, it will become less and less reliable as a solution. We need a weapon that won't fail us before the job is done. Unfortunately, conventional weapons haven't done much to hurt these creatures. Even the small ones have shown an extraordinary resilience to physical damage, and bigger ones that have been popping up are nigh unkillable. [He lights another cigarette, musing.] Maybe a biological control could work? Perhaps a natural enemy could be found to fight these things... or, at the very least, to buy us some time. Anything capable of killing one of these things would also be dangerous to us, wouldn't it? Yes, there is that. [He stubs out his cigarette and grabs another with a shaking hand. Lighting it, he eagerly sucks in the smoke.] What we need is something powerful enough to keep these things at bay, but intelligent enough to be capable of reason. Uh-huh. ...You mean, like a dragon? Yes. Told you so, Doc. Who's a narcissist now? Maybe not the time, but couldn't help it. Killing the dragons... it must have thrown the world out of balance somehow. But how... how was I to know? There were no signs, no indications... there was *nothing!* What I did was *right!* It looked that way to me, too, Doctor. Like there were maybe a *few* signs, but... Urgh, can't we just blame this on that drat Absinthe and her unnecessarily vague prophecizing, you just know she could've spelled that crap out properly if she'd wanted to! ...But it wasn't right, was it? [He stares down at his trembling hands.] I acted without considering all of the variables... didn't even consider that such variables could exist! I was *blind!* Maybe. But you can still turn this around. Not like the reasons behind this change anything, do they? We were going to figure this stuff out, right? At least slow it down or... something. [He shakes his head sadly.] Nothing can make this right. Nothing at all. There is no "fixing" this. I can only atone for it. And so I shall. Whoa whoa whoa, hold on, we still need you here! And what about our money? What about the cities we need for spending that money in?! No, I won't. Don't do it, Vauclair... you saved the world once. You can do it again! "Saved the world." Funny. [He smiles weakly at you, but there are tears pouring from his eyes.] I didn't save the world, Rosa. I damned it. Ah poo poo, not again! Goddamnit Doc, now you've really gone and done it. Alright alright, anything on this console he was looking at, a clue or a design for some secret prototype or something? Anything? Who are we kidding, of course not. There isn't anything now, is there? Actually no, let's just stop this and really face the facts: that it's already too late and there was never going to be anything, Vauclair or no Vauclair. No secret weapon, no hero to rise up and save the day. No power of friendship to bring light in the darkest hour or whatever bullshit. Hell in our case no friends at all, because we loving killed them too. So what does any of it matter now? Might as well go visit the place where it all went wrong. Maybe it'll feel meaningful somehow. Just to make sure... you wouldn't happen to have any good ideas, portraitless researcher lady? Sounds about right. [Tears stream down her cheeks.] We're dead. All of us. Yeah. We are. Sorry, friends. You were right, it wasn't worth it after all. You should never gamble with what you can't afford to lose, but we still chose to throw the entire world into the pile in the hopes of hitting it big. It really did seem like such a surefire bet back then too. And what do we have left now, huh? Misery and dust, a chance to find out what the death wails of entire cities sound like. And of course Dante, our loyal idiot of a beautiful boy. We've still got him as well. And down here where it all started it's now just us, our dog, some desperate bastards whose efforts can never come to anything. And of course... ...This loving guy. Hello, Audran. [He nods.] Rosa. That gunshot I heard... was that the Doc? Yeah. It was. We could refuse, or if we'd held on to the beer we gave to the guard in Gesundbrunnen or the bottle we snatched from the AG Chemie executive's office, we could've brought our own drink instead. But this'll have to do. [Take a drink.] Here's to Vauclair. I've gotta hand it to the old man: he really did it. He changed the world. Yeah, he did. Not for the better, but he changed things, all right. [He shrugs his massive shoulders.] Better. Worse. Who the gently caress cares? The world was going to hell anyway. The Doc sped things up a little, is all. Made life more interesting for you and me. We probably wouldn't have lived long enough to see the end if he hadn't. Is that what this was about for you? You *wanted* something like this to happen? [He closes his eyes and takes another long drink.] I'm looking forward to watching it die. You're one sick bastard, Audran. Sure I am. But then again, so are you. You sat back and watched as the Doc released his wonder bug. This is as much on you as it is on me. The only difference between us is that I've accepted what's coming, and you haven't. If you wanted to go that route, I guess I couldn't fault you for it. Things are gonna get ugly over the next few years. That's a downright generous offer. But... we still have Dante to care for, he hasn't done anything bad and doesn't deserve to lose yet another parent. This isn't the final sunset just yet, and when that time does eventually arrive, it'd be nice if we could go watch it together with him. Just the two of us, one fire-spewing idiot animal who couldn't stop making GBS threads all over its own home, and her lovely hellhound companion. Give me the bottle. I'm not running from this - I'll see it through to the end, just like you will. I'll drink to that. (Here is the gun version) This has been Shadowrun: Dragonfall. Thanks for reading. Kanfy fucked around with this message at 08:29 on Dec 7, 2020 |
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vauclair learned an important ecological lesson ecologists learned and respected decades ago: apex predators are keystone species all the time. thats why wild reintroductions are apex predators like wolves and condors and poo poo half the time your little easy example is otters so its p amusing to think about dragons and otters occupying the same focal ecological niche. other examples: wolves bears sea stars and jaguars. sea stars belong on there cuz theyll gently caress up any mollusc i mean, i coulda told this guy off the topofmyhead but looks like all he got was microbiologists lol bob dobbs is dead fucked around with this message at 19:54 on Dec 6, 2020 |
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bob dobbs is dead posted:your little easy example is otters so its p amusing to think about dragons and otters occupying the same focal ecological niche. Otters, like dragons, are also assholes.
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Well, that was chilling. It's not often games put hidden content behind the worst ending. No unlocks, no special unique loot, just forcing you to see the consequences of your actions. That really rammed home that you done hosed up good. I'd be very curious to know how many players have seen this ending. The lesson of the Wing Commander series was always that players rarely go down losing plot branches, but that was in the days before internet walkthrough videos and achievements. (Also, where did the "grow fat on screams" line first come from? I scanned the last few updates briefly but I didn't pick up on it). EDIT: Found it. As I suspected, it was one of Absinthe's prophecies. Loxbourne fucked around with this message at 20:13 on Dec 6, 2020 |
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the smug mans buddy
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I like that little bit of extra characterization that Audran gets, he is a nihilistic killer without pity but like everyone else in the sixth world his personality was shaped by the circumstances of his life. Guess when you have a bone to pick with the entire world you might as well throw your lot with the first capable seeming radical you meet.
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# ? Dec 6, 2020 20:15 |
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Loxbourne posted:I'd be very curious to know how many players have seen this ending. The lesson of the Wing Commander series was always that players rarely go down losing plot branches, but that was in the days before internet walkthrough videos and achievements.
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# ? Dec 6, 2020 20:22 |
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quote:They have long since learned to carry out their conflicts in silence; noise can attract the predators that now dominate the Earth's surface. I knew this ending existed, but I've never actually seen it myself.
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# ? Dec 6, 2020 20:39 |
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# ? Dec 6, 2020 20:53 |
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I had no idea that ending was there, based on Kamfy’s stats screen post most people didn’t either, and they still put in a whole extra scene with interesting dialogue and everything. I’m even more impressed with the game now than when I played it. Thanks for convincing me to buy this game, and then showing all the paths I didn’t choose or find on my way through it!
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# ? Dec 6, 2020 20:58 |
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Was the fuckup spreading a magical disease whose very presence makes the world more magical?
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# ? Dec 6, 2020 21:17 |
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Z the IVth posted:Was the fuckup spreading a magical disease whose very presence makes the world more magical? Nah, it was the fact that highly intelligent, powerful creatures could hold these horrors at bay. Which is totally unrelated the the intelligent, powerful creatures we genocided immediately before horrors began pouring across dimensional lines.
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# ? Dec 6, 2020 21:23 |
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The basic idea of the (x) World in Shadowrun is that magic ebbs and flows. When it's very high the Horrors come in and wreck house until magic fades almost to nothing. Magic creatures like dragons die or hibernate and the manasphere rebuilds. Something is wrong with the specific cycle in Shadowrun, however, and the Horrors are coming fast and strong. Nobody knows why yet, but at least some of what the Great Dragons are up to is trying to stem the tide. That's why Dunkelzahn killed himself, as part of a blood sacrifice / warding spell. No Greats means nobody holding back the tide.
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# ? Dec 6, 2020 21:41 |
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Welp. That was dark.
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# ? Dec 6, 2020 21:43 |
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Quackles posted:Welp. That was dark. Welcome to the sixth world.
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# ? Dec 6, 2020 21:48 |
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DreamingofRoses posted:Welcome to the end of the sixth world.
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# ? Dec 6, 2020 21:53 |
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Holy poo poo what an ending. I hadn't seen that one despite playing Shadowrun a few times. I'm gonna go snuggle a blanket or something loving christ.
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# ? Dec 6, 2020 21:54 |
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DreamingofRoses posted:Welcome to the sixth world. I hate to resurrect a discussion that caused a big fight earlier in the thread, but I'll say it again: This Is Why I Don't Like Shadowrun. It's tonally bleak and it can get even worse.
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# ? Dec 6, 2020 21:54 |
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raverrn posted:The basic idea of the (x) World in Shadowrun is that magic ebbs and flows. When it's very high the Horrors come in and wreck house until magic fades almost to nothing. Magic creatures like dragons die or hibernate and the manasphere rebuilds. The bit about the Tirs shutting themselves off also ties into that. In previous cycles, heavily shielded, concealed and warded special enclaves could weather the "storm" as it were, and Metahumanity would rebuild when the magic starts ebbing enough that the Horrors can no longer sustain themselves here. However, according to the supplemental material Dunkelzahn believed -- and convinced at the very least Hestaby and probably Lowfyr as well -- that between the glitch in the cycle and the technology Metahumanity has built, the usual enclaves won't hold, and new ways need to be found. They're working on that -- or, at least, they were until someone decided they all had to die. (Incidentally, one of the things that went wrong in this cycle is the Great Ghost Dance. By all accounts what Daniel Howling Coyote did shouldn't have been possible in the first place, and the sheer amount of magic he threw around during the Ritual caused a massive spike that did severe damage to the barrier that normally holds the Horrors at bay until much later in the cycle -- like a localized hole in the Ozone Layer, except that rather than UV radiation what comes through is Eldritch Abominations. Worse, it seems that certain factions within Aztech are deliberately trying to widen it, for reasons unspecified...) kaosdrachen fucked around with this message at 22:00 on Dec 6, 2020 |
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# ? Jun 10, 2024 00:14 |
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Don't buy the Shadowrun rpg books, the system was never good or even really serviceable and the fluff always ALWAYS pulls some metaplot garbage. Get yourself some other cyberpunk suitable ruleset and add as much of the setting as you can stand.
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# ? Dec 6, 2020 21:58 |