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Schadenboner posted:Please do not operate vehicles under the influence of alcohol or other motor-impairing substances. agreed as Milwaukeans, we know what we’re talking about.
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Sagebrush posted:Xakura has like a level 3 understanding of it but goddamnedtwisto is on level 5 so there isn't much to debate. Penisface posted:i am really disappointed that the bicycle steering argument did not evolve into heading vs course over ground v2 lol. i don't miss fishmech and the humor of that exchange depended on the fishmech v. ... frozenvent, me, sagebrush(, and others?) dynamic Xakura posted:Motorcycles absolutely steer by turning their front wheel. goddamnedtwisto posted:oh goody another countersteering debate with everyone talking past each other. thank you for heading off a larger debate, even at the expense of possible funy misunderstanding
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Dec 4, 2020 23:59
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Dec 5, 2020 11:20
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I can't process the vegas thing. I assume whatever city committee humored the sponsors of this project will forget about it because it's expensive and pointless when trams exist, hopefully ?
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unpacked robinhood posted:I can't process the vegas thing. I assume whatever city committee humored the sponsors of this project will forget about it because it's expensive and pointless when trams exist, hopefully ? no its nothing so complicated. just insider trading and croneyism u know ~
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Carthag Tuek posted:i would like for any car to go full militant autonomist logical step is for the AI cars to unionise and refuse to drive unless you improve their lay and conditions
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unpacked robinhood posted:I can't process the vegas thing. I assume whatever city committee humored the sponsors of this project will forget about it because it's expensive and pointless when trams exist, hopefully ? yeah it’s weird. they also somehow were chosen to build a Chicago loop to ohaire (airport) transit system, which would be a real, big boy, important route. how it got that far i have no idea but i think it’s since stalled out. but the Vegas thing is actually happening, they already excavated tunnels and station vaults. the best we can hope for is it’s just an embarrassing and underwhelming boondoggle. hopefully nobody dies when they try to push too many cars through a tunnel too fast at the request of elon. and hopefully it doesn’t “work”, since im emotionally invested in elon’s failure.
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Eeyo posted:yeah it’s weird. they also somehow were chosen to build a Chicago loop to ohaire (airport) transit system, which would be a real, big boy, important route. how it got that far i have no idea but i think it’s since stalled out. Could they put down a track and run some sort of an underground train through the tunnels? Some sort of "sub-way"?
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Schadenboner posted:Could they put down a track and run some sort of an underground train through the tunnels? Some sort of "sub-way"? please don’t just wildly postulate about pretend technology
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:please don’t just wildly postulate about pretend technology I'm legit sorry they collapsed the Milwaukee Subway stations a decade or so ago. I always heard stories of them but I don't think technology got good enough soon enough to get quality footage of them. 
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unpacked robinhood posted:I can't process the vegas thing. I assume whatever city committee humored the sponsors of this project will forget about it because it's expensive and pointless when trams exist, hopefully ? it wasn't a city committee, the convention center has a state board that's half municipal officials and half casino execs vegas only gets 2 spots on the board one for the mayor and one for city council, and the mayor was the only no vote on the entire proposal
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unpacked robinhood posted:I can't process the vegas thing. I assume whatever city committee humored the sponsors of this project will forget about it because it's expensive and pointless when trams exist, hopefully ? iirc the bid was waaaay lower than any actual tram system would have been, or any other kind of underground system like a bus tunnel with proper ventilation and emergency access
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qirex posted:iirc the bid was waaaay lower than any actual tram system would have been, or any other kind of underground system like a bus tunnel with proper ventilation and emergency access Cost-Plus?
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yeah elon’s bid came in $10m less than the others. so about $50m vs $60m or something like that. according to https://techcrunch.com/2020/10/16/elon-musks-las-vegas-loop-might-only-carry-a-fraction-of-the-passengers-it-promised/ about 30% of the contract comes from meeting various levels of traffic handling. they get 10% when they can do 2200 per hour, 3300 per hour, and 4400 per hour. so maybe it really will be cheaper than the other bids (because it sucks and they don’t pay the performance part of the contract and collect some fines).
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quote:For each large trade show that TBC fails to transport an average capacity of 3,960 passengers per hour for 13 hours, it will have to pay LVCVA $300,000 in damages. If TBC keeps falling short, it keeps paying, up to a maximum of $4.5 million. yeah not sure how they’re going to get that, so like a 10% haircut i guess.
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If you don't read the OSHA thread; Shot CarForumPoster posted:I really don’t get the Tesla fear mongering either. I don’t have opinions on “autonomous cars” as a whole because Tesla is the only one with a large amount of miles driven semiautonomously. If the measurement of that safety is miles between incidents autopilot seems to be much safer than the us average, at least according to the numbers reported by Tesla. 4.5M miles between crashes with autopilot engaged compared to a US average of 0.5M. Chaser CarForumPoster posted:I find your implication that I’m dumb and don’t understand pretty goon- Honestly from the username I was sure they were doing 'a bit' 
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NoneMoreNegative posted:If you don't read the OSHA thread; that... that has to be a bit that can’t be serious; my psyche can’t handle that right now
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to be fair I expect students to have that sort of enthusiasm because they know they want to do what the pros do, but don't yet know how being a pro doesn't mean you actually do work that meets the expectations of the general population and that the business pressures and promotion-oriented garbage override a poo poo ton of concerns of all kinds relating to ethics and safety and quality
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As a mech e grad let me tell you, we don't know poo poo (idk how I even passed let alone passed well because I remember nothing)
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Arcteryx Anarchist posted:that... nah that guy has always given off douchy tech bro vibes
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OJ MIST 2 THE DICK posted:it wasn't a city committee, the convention center has a state board that's half municipal officials and half casino execs wait, mayor goodman actually voted no on it? that's hilarious. normally she's an absolutely enormous irredeemable piece of poo poo. stopped clock principle, i guess. vegas's situation is so goddamn dumb. the strip is probably the poster child for public transit use like a subway, monorail, or really anything -- a relatively straight, single road, bordered by destinations on all sides. but instead we just get the lovely monorail that goes nowhere and the idiot cartube. i hate this city.
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But what about all the lovely tourists cars and poo poo crawling along at 3 mph in perpetual gridlock? public transit might take away all those rental cars and cabs! Job creators!
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even funnier is that more or less all of the strip casinos started charging for parking, such that the lack of charging for parking became one of the south point's ads for a while. might still be, even. (south point being one of the casinos that's not on the strip but is fairly far south of it) fun vegas trivia: some parts of the south point still have a "SC" logo, iirc mostly in the parking garage. it used to be called the "south coast" and was part of that family of casinos (gold coast, etc) until it split off for whatever reason bilking customers is the same reason that the taxi authority was so invested in killing uber and lyft here back in the day. not because those services were lovely (they were) but because it would introduce a competitor to the long-haul grift, where a cabbie would take you from the airport to the strip the "long way". with the central app-based routing uber/lyft the routing made it a lot more noticeable when someone tried to long-haul you (and the pre-paid costs generally prevented it as well) everyone's loving this city and the only goal they have is to keep being the one that gets to gently caress it.
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Zamujasa posted:
iirc the Sam's town people bough out out the coast casinos but let the original coast owner buy back south coast and made him rename it south point id have to ask my cousin if he really remembers he used to work for loving dottys and got a ton of gaming industry scuttlebutt on the large casinos
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OJ MIST 2 THE DICK posted:it wasn't a city committee, the convention center has a state board that's half municipal officials and half casino execs
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I was thinking about this today, after a Tesla zoomed past me going way too fast for the conditions/surrounding traffic. We have quite a lot of them on the road here now, and it seems to me like at least 50% of the time when I see one, the driver is doing something stupid and/or risky, even by Vancouver standards. I got to wondering how much of Tesla's increased fatal accident rate is just due to the overlap between high-risk demographics and the kind of people who are likely to drive Teslas. I don't doubt that a good part of it is the car's inherent unreliability, but young techbros with something to prove do not seem like they would be the safest drivers to begin with. I imagine there's also a certain amount of reasoning that goes "but it's the safest car on the road, so it's OK if I take more risks."
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Lead out in cuffs posted:I was thinking about this today, after a Tesla zoomed past me going way too fast for the conditions/surrounding traffic. We have quite a lot of them on the road here now, and it seems to me like at least 50% of the time when I see one, the driver is doing something stupid and/or risky, even by Vancouver standards. i assume it's the usual expensive car = dangerous rear end in a top hat driver thing combined with the fact that tesla straight up encourages and enables incredibly unsafe driving
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unpacked robinhood posted:Can you drunk drive and tell cops you're just beta testing in degraded mode ? Absolutely provided you're a billionaire
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Animal Friend posted:Absolutely provided you're a billionaire or if you're the sheriff of wakulla county, fl. in 2009, he hit someone that lived near them while driving home drunk injuring her and her kid in the car, and left the scene of the accident. he was sentenced to 6 months of no drinking with his neighbors tasked with monitoring his compliance.
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Eeyo posted:and hopefully it doesn’t “work”, since im emotionally invested in elon’s failure. Unless they're willing to torch capital expenditure levels of cash on a monthly basis at this project, you don't need to worry about whether it will fail. dozens of cars flying around poorly lit, poorly constructed tunnels while passengers have to climb in and out of these cars only a couple at a time is a taxi service, which is hard enough to run Wear and tear on a taxi is challenging enough for purpose-built vehicles. Picture all of the craftsmanship problems Desert Tent Car™ Inc has been having with stupidly wealthy people who coddle thir cars, but now they're selling kinda-taxis placed under constant load.
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Why did we still have sheriffs departments many places again? The LA county sheriff is straight up like a domestic terrorist/militia leader
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Arcteryx Anarchist posted:Why did we still have sheriffs departments many places again? there is a lot of area in the us that isn’t incorporated towns and cities but is still inhabited.
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Yes that’s why in many places you have a state police that’s more than just relegated to writing highway tickets and SBI duty Not a weird anachronism that in urban areas exists as The Racist Uncle Cop with all kinds of fun corruption between embezzlement and charging off the books for gun permits
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Arcteryx Anarchist posted:Yes that’s why in many places you have a state police that’s more than just relegated to writing highway tickets and SBI duty 
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