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Coolness Averted posted:tbf the mechanics are pretty impenetrable to a new player and if no one tells you to rush to the basic mods, or gifts them to you and explains that you wanna ditch the mk1s asap it can be very boring to play, especially if you do the logical thing and start on all those quests you get right at earth and mars or go into the open world stuff early. I admit that it's not very newbie friendly (but do people not look up guides or tips when starting new games---I have to because I suck), but the story and art design is so cool and different. Also, if you don't tear up a little when your Space Mommy abandons you only to return as a villain, then you don't have a heart.
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Bungie did apparently love throwing up lots of high-concept ideas and plot threads for the Halo games and showed no interest in following up on or resolving any of them, does seem like a habit.
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I wish bungie made the ghosts sexy anime ladies but they must have lost all their horny artists to 343 studios when the split from Microsoft happened.
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Nov 28, 2020 16:01
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Terms of the split: No making single player sci-fi shooters No sexy computers
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Fart Sandwiches posted:I wish bungie made the ghosts sexy anime ladies but they must have lost all their horny artists to 343 studios when the split from Microsoft happened. This is why Sword Art Online: Fatal Bullet is superior to Destiny 2. You can build your own waifu or husbando.
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Nov 28, 2020 23:42
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The "Infinite" in Halo Infinite refers to Cortana's new cup size
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I suspect that was the real reason for the delay. The devs realized that even the Series X quickly runs out of resources when trying to render Cortana's bust. The remaining dev time will be spent moving those physics to Azure clouds.
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Destiny is like every sci fi trope ranging from hot space women to non-sapient Kardeshev 3+ entities that have harnessed time completely and build gardening exhibits out of star systems mashed into every fantasy trope and vaguely christian analogy ever put down in the post LOTR world It owns and it's like a weird science fiction fever dream you had looking at a bunch of book covers in a barnes and noble in the late 70s (The vanilla D2 campaign absolutely was a joyless poorly written slog though, absolutely no argument there)
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Psycho Landlord posted:Destiny is like every sci fi trope ranging from hot space women to non-sapient Kardeshev 3+ entities that have harnessed time completely and build gardening exhibits out of star systems mashed into every fantasy trope and vaguely christian analogy ever put down in the post LOTR world That rather makes it worse though because it's taking a ton of potentially fun ideas and doing the most boring possible thing with them, just such a massive waste of potential Mass Effect at least tried to deliver, even if it tripped, shat itself and fell facefirst in the poo poo at the finish line
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Nov 30, 2020 15:28
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Personally, I do not think fighting a nuclear abomination made of a giant quadcopter and an alien kleptomaniac powered by nanomachines and pure rage by throwing his own cooling rods back at him while a gay robot and his gay wizard lover wax rhapsodic about a city ringed with spears in the background "boring" but I also hate the game your av is from so it is obvious we will never be able to understand each other and posting combat is our only recourse
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Nov 30, 2020 15:41
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Did u all know that all the best parts of Density's fluff were written by local goon General Battuta, who is the same guy who wrote the Traitor Baru Cormorant which is one of those books that if you haven't read it means you're not allowed to have opinions about books. His most recent writings for Bungie's Destiny had a bit where a transhuman robot man thought his face turned into a toenail because it turns out putting a human mind in a robot is hard bet you didn't, sci fi wi fi destiny thread
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Hasn't GB himself admitted that Destiny isn't very good, though? At least, I think he mentioned wincing when a review of The Traitor mentioned his involvement with Destiny's writing.
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I do not recall such a thing being said anywhere that I've seen and given his excitement about our reactions to his more current Destiny stuff I am going to hazard a guess that he does in fact still take pride in what he wrote for bungie's magnum opus, Destiny 2
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Psycho Landlord posted:I do not recall such a thing being said anywhere that I've seen and given his excitement about our reactions to his more current Destiny stuff I am going to hazard a guess that he does in fact still take pride in what he wrote for bungie's magnum opus, Destiny 2 I misremembered somewhat. He defended the parts of Destiny he contributed to, at least. General Battuta posted:Especially because everyone likes the parts of Destiny I wrote
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I'm proud of that dumb Grimoire and all those items!
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Psycho Landlord posted:Personally, I do not think fighting a nuclear abomination made of a giant quadcopter and an alien kleptomaniac powered by nanomachines and pure rage by throwing his own cooling rods back at him while a gay robot and his gay wizard lover wax rhapsodic about a city ringed with spears in the background "boring" but I also hate the game your av is from so it is obvious we will never be able to understand each other and posting combat is our only recourse That's not in vanilla d2, friend. Do you have a very uh unique interpretation of the game, Or are you talking about a world event or the raid? The raid seemed to have a far cooler story and background than anything I saw in the main story or the Osiris expansion which is where I stopped. Edit: Oh poo poo I completely misread that and thought you meant D2 had that scene. Yeah D1 seemed like it had some crazy and fun stuff, that's how my friends sold me on playing D2. Coolness Averted fucked around with this message at 19:21 on Nov 30, 2020 |
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Nov 30, 2020 19:19
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Lol I did mean D2 actually. Most recent expac. I completely get why you would have a bad opinion of it if you just played vanilla and CoO. Like I guess I am the Destiny Defender here but I will be the first to admit that year one of D2’s existence was flatly bad.
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Nov 30, 2020 21:20
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remember when they said the traveller got its name from that one basketball astronaut saying it was like traveling in basketball yes yes that's really how it happened
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These days I'd just prefer that cool-sounding plot threads and inscrutable space fluff remain unexplored because whenever a sci-fi/fantasy IP tries to tie up loose ends it is a loving disaster. It's a good excuse to play dress-up with a blue space barbie and shoot something with a light up space ak called something like Abstruse Ambition with a description that earnestly insists that is is ~malice aforethought, sword in hand ~ bloody steel from a far off land~ Then you paint it pink.
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I'll be honest, I've largely given up reading extraneous videogame *lore* for games I'm only semi-invested in, and haven't looked at a lick of D2's ingame stuff outside of some light wikiing. Sorry General Blue Planet guy.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yXs0R370LU Destiny owns quote:Personally, I do not think fighting a nuclear abomination made of a giant quadcopter and an alien kleptomaniac powered by nanomachines and pure rage by throwing his own cooling rods back at him while a gay robot and his gay wizard lover wax rhapsodic about a city ringed with spears in the background "boring" but I also hate the game your av is from so it is obvious we will never be able to understand each other and posting combat is our only recourse My favorite part is fighting Space Satan's Son in ultra-spacehell (not to be confused with his other spacehell that some robots invaded to figure out how worship worked) and murdering him with a sword because the space satans' ultra-spacehells run on a thing metaphorically called "sword logic" that your idiot character took literally instead but it worked out because it really just meant murder your way to the top anyway I just really like that the key component of the final boss fight in that raid is "your gigantic punchman is a loving idiot and missed the point so here you are I guess" RBA Starblade fucked around with this message at 22:43 on Dec 1, 2020 |
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The best part of that is that afterwards the dumb glowing ball that is the ascended soul of an evil space wizard who has acquired power beyond your comprehension is all yes you have slain the space satan, now you are the king, take your throne- and you just grab the neat gun you got out of the raid chest and leave and it completely loving shatters his worldview lol
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Also that neat gun contains a little piece of space satan’s soul so he lives forever through you killing stuff with it
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haveblue posted:Also that neat gun contains a little piece of space satan’s soul so he lives forever through you killing stuff with it Jokes on him I kept using vision of confluence instead
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Its definitely a bold decision to set your game after all the interesting stuff in the lore had already happened.
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Hey it worked for Breath of the Wild.
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To answer your question OP, Destiny is more the most cartoonish collection of embarrassing fantasy tropes.
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this kinda all underlines what i said, there's obviously rad poo poo in there but it's obscured by all the dogshit game design stuff. just make it a single player game and let me, a normal person, play the game about space satan abuse. also lole at playing a game for a year that you think is bad
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well why not posted:this kinda all underlines what i said, there's obviously rad poo poo in there but it's obscured by all the dogshit game design stuff. just make it a single player game and let me, a normal person, play the game about space satan abuse. A lot of people do that, like where it's flawed but they chill with friends in it. Also D2 had a hilarious post release dev cycle where they lied about what could and couldn't be fixed and basically kept saying they were gonna make the improvements everyone wanted, but it wouldn't be until the next expansion content. Then kept doing that. Eventually they did, or so I'm told. But they didn't come out and say "Look, we hear you and we're gonna include all that but it's gonna be incremental and you won't see any of it until the 2nd season pass" until they'd sold enough of the 1st season pass. Of course nerds were also really bad about trying to read tea leaves in the flavor and lore descriptions of s1 expansions as proof the game was going to get good content.
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It was the most innovative shooter I'd played in years.
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Coolness Averted posted:A lot of people do that, like where it's flawed but they chill with friends in it. Also D2 had a hilarious post release dev cycle where they lied about what could and couldn't be fixed and basically kept saying they were gonna make the improvements everyone wanted, but it wouldn't be until the next expansion content. Then kept doing that. Eventually they did, or so I'm told. MMO players are some broken people
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Nobody played d2 year 1 past the first couple months, that was why bungie completely remade the core mechanics of the game for y2 when it got good lol The only reason people still play Destiny is because activision had advertising money to burn on Forsaken
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Still playin thru destiny 1 with my wife at night and we just finished the black garden. I asked her what she thought was going on and she had no clue. We watched al the cutscenes and read all the quest descriptions. Now let’s see if the first two expansions are any better
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I ran through a strike last night and it took me like 10 minutes to realize it was one of the strikes from Destiny 1 that was added back in with the Cosmodrome as part of Beyond Light. Instead of rolling my eyes at "They're reusing stuff from 5 years ago and acting like it's new!" I got super excited. "Oh hell yeah! Omnighul fight! I know how to do this one!" I'm part of the problem.Fart Sandwiches posted:Still playin thru destiny 1 with my wife at night and we just finished the black garden. I asked her what she thought was going on and she had no clue. We watched al the cutscenes and read all the quest descriptions. Now let’s see if the first two expansions are any better No and No. (Whatever expansion it was that focused on the Hive, that was the worst one. I can deal with fighting the Hive on occasion, but putting an entire expansion on their dimly-lit ship and fighting them and only them constantly got old real quick.) Re: The Black Garden, I'm starting to think that Bungie should really lean into Vex bullshit as the canonical explanation for "That's why you fought the same battles, Guardian, again...and again"
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This is unrelated to the story being trash, but did they gently caress with difficulty in the old strikes? Because we are still leveling I thought it would be fun to do the legacy strike playlist, which is listed at level 20 or 100 light, and we are level 25 and 29 with over 120 light each. There are waaaay more enemies and waves than I remember and we are getting enrage timer’d by bosses (did they add those??? Geez it’s been a while). Also they pulled all the strikes out of the normal quest lines and they just appear on the map with no explanation later. These mmo style “living stories” where basic game stuff is constantly changing really upsets the old codger in me
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JethroMcB posted:I ran through a strike last night and it took me like 10 minutes to realize it was one of the strikes from Destiny 1 that was added back in with the Cosmodrome as part of Beyond Light. Instead of rolling my eyes at "They're reusing stuff from 5 years ago and acting like it's new!" I got super excited. "Oh hell yeah! Omnighul fight! I know how to do this one!" I'm part of the problem. Sometimes it's fun to have a game reuse an idea? I loving loved Death Star mode in 2015's Battlefront and wish it was added to Battlefront II, or even a Death Star II mode. (Actually, an Endor Death Star mode would loving OWN).
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Bogus Adventure posted:Sometimes it's fun to have a game reuse an idea? Yeah, I don't mind that strike because I haven't seen it in 3 years. I do mind that they rewrote all the overwrought dialog, though. rip "SILENCE HER SCREAMS"
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haveblue posted:Yeah, I don't mind that strike because I haven't seen it in 3 years. OMNIGUUUUUL
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Friends I am here to tell you that the "plot" of Tetris Effect multiplayer is Destiny Eyes up, Guardian  The Darkness has invaded our solar system and seeks to choke out all light  Did I mention the fact that there's a giant black Pyramid
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JethroMcB posted:
Shouldn’t it be a tetromino, lol
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So that's what Ashur's been up to
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