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Pub games definitely are touching a stove but sometimes you hit gold. I’ve had diamond and golden grin holdout unfinished forever and eventually found a group kitted out to go 9 in GG. Not sure I’d ever flop into a DSOD or stealth lobby any time soon but there are good players out there.
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I, somehow, managed to beat Heat Street's holdout solo. Up to wave 9 Only trust your bots, pubs will never help you 
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That update ran into Sangres, VERY LUCKY And now you can use the new lever action rifle with iron sights and dress up like Vlad's useless sack of ballskin brother in law while going on a present hunt in the new missions. Also skins. more at the actual link posted:Fixed an issue where the effect of night vision goggles would be permanent if attempting to turn off the night vision goggles and picking up a bag at the same time.
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The new scope is very good, bernetti rangehitter iron sights are pretty weird, but if you wanna use it in some weird dodge build its an option I guess. Also:  
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VR Payday is *so drat weird* oh my god. It finally started working, and it's such a strange sensation.
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Happy Heisty Year! The holiday event is now over and the XP event bonus on the Christmas-themed heists are no longer available. The special Christmas decorated heists are back to normal and the same goes for all the holiday versions of certain sounds and the main menu. All content that was released in the last update will stay in the game. If you did not get around to picking up all the presents in the Mexican heists to unlock the Mega Sangres mask, Fear not, you can still get a hold of the mask. The presents won’t go away.  A New FaceOf course, we are on top of recent news, so if you want to heist the White House in style, you'll have a brand new mask to wear as you sneak your way through the halls or storm the building in true patriotic style. Some may say Mr. 46 has changed a lot between the time he posed for his portrait and when the mask was made. Some may say they are not even the same person. But most would agree, you don't want to see someone entering a bank with a smile like that... and a mini-gun. Crime Spree We want to start the year off with some fun new heisting. Start up a new crime spree and you’ll find that 6 new heists have been made available in the rotation. Breaking Feds Shacklethorne Auction Boiling Point San Martín Bank The Alesso Heist Breakfast in Tijuana Stay tuned for more weapons, heists, and other good stuff to come later this year. The gang is back from vacation and they are ready for a fight. Here’s to yet another year of wearing masks and vinyl gloves in public. OVERKILL_Tobias OVERKILL - a Starbreeze Studio. Update 202 Changelog Update size: 74.6MB General Fixed an issue on the San Martín Bank heist where players could interact with a present in a location even if it had actually spawned elsewhere. Adjusted the sight picture of the Compact Tactical Box Sight. Fixed an issue with the Mega Sangres mask where patterns were not applying correctly. Fixed a graphical issue that occurred with the Dirty Santa and Ho Ho Heister outfits when the player was crouching. Fixed an issue with the Cursed Kill Room heist where teammate AI would block enemy spawns. Adjusted the concealment and stability values for iron sights for sniper rifles.Adjusted the concealment values on “Lightweight Foregrip” and “Lightweight Stock” for the Grom Sniper Rifle. ---- AKA Sniper rifle iron sights now give -4 stability, grom got nerfed yet again by dropping the concealment boosting modifications from +4 concealment to +3. The Xmas 2020 scope doesn't zoom in as much now, either. Also the new mask has typos for fathe(r) & among criminal(s)  
EorayMel fucked around with this message at 17:11 on Jan 12, 2021 |
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Jan 12, 2021 17:00
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I personally like "a(n) opinionated man"
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HebrewMagic posted:I personally like "a(n) opinionated man" I'm a bigger fan of the "The 46th, some say." Not that Trump will ever find out about it, but that's some impressive shade.
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 Dead Game, New Update quote:...  new gage rear end pack page for more info Well they kinda went the gunslinger weapon route for actually having some distinguishing values...or at least attempting(but not really). We get a Mossberg shotgun, yet another 1911, and another AK submachine gun. Also they loving suck, don't buy it holy poo poo they phoned it in as bad as the cartel optics EorayMel fucked around with this message at 17:21 on Feb 24, 2021 |
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Feb 24, 2021 17:04
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EorayMel posted:Also they loving suck, don't buy it holy poo poo they phoned it in as bad as the cartel optics
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If they actually unfuck the balance I might reinstall. Goddamn.
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UnknownMercenary posted:If they actually unfuck the balance I might reinstall. Goddamn. In addition to my wonderful mod (which now has all weapons and more than 50% of skills rebalanced!), OVK are discussing rebalances as the next priority.
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Discendo Vox posted:In addition to my wonderful mod (which now has all weapons and more than 50% of skills rebalanced!), OVK are discussing rebalances as the next priority. I'm worried that this means more nerfs.
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Balancing a game always involves nerfs along with buffs. Constantly buffing everything is how Payday 2 ended up the way it is now.
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UnknownMercenary posted:Balancing a game always involves nerfs along with buffs. Constantly buffing everything is how Payday 2 ended up the way it is now. All the guns I used to like don't work any more. Give me back my .308, explosive rounds doing damage, and akimbo silenced smgs that sound like a pack of shuffling cards.
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Mystic Mongol posted:All the guns I used to like don't work any more. Give me back my .308, explosive rounds doing damage, and akimbo silenced smgs that sound like a pack of shuffling cards. Well, I guess I want a bit more. I enjoy being a flak cannon with the akimbo Grimms (I'll never forget the first time chairface nearly crashed the game on me by running by with dual Gimms on full auto) or just simple spray and pray with one of the two large mag, high pickup, autoshotties but I would like other styles to be just as good and/or fun.
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It's possible that whoever's doing the balance now is better than whoever did it in the past but they've generally suffered from a lack of vision or articulation on what balance even means, and it's really unlikely that they'll be able to satisfy the community because "weapons should all feel distinct" and "weapons should all be roughly equal in viability" is just so loving hard with 80000 SMGs. If I had to guess? Probably some nerf to flame shotguns because holy poo poo they're good, not sure about anything else though I'd guess that DMRs will get buffed (not like they have a lot of room to go down).
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Crashed as a host when someone masked up and automatically pulled out the new pistol, if you wanted some more pack bashing As for what this rebalancing entails is anybody's guess, but, I will laugh hard forever if they introduce something like shotgun-style damage dropoff for everything except sniper rifles or spontaneously neutering something like the union or frenchman beyond all utility just for shits and giggles. And because this is still overkill, there is a non-zero percent chance of this happening.
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UnknownMercenary posted:Balancing a game always involves nerfs along with buffs. Constantly buffing everything is how Payday 2 ended up the way it is now. DMR pickup is an extreme anomaly; the only weapon type where 100% accuracy and picking up every box was assumed, in a game where sniper rifles can casually multikill and still get better pickup. maswastaken fucked around with this message at 20:12 on Feb 24, 2021 |
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Chimano 88 Pistol: Rate of Fire increased to 600 (from 480) Damage increased to 37 (from 35) AMR-16 Assault Rifle Ammo pickup increased to 2.7 - 4.95 (from 0.9 - 3.15) Mark 10 Submachine Gun Weapon kick changed to 0.7/1/-0.5/0.5 (from -1.2/1.2/-1/1) Bronco .44 Revolver Rate of Fire increased to 480 (from 361) Akimbo Compact-5 Submachine Guns Total Ammo increased to 300 (from 240) Ammo pickup increased to 3 - 10.5 (from 2.4 - 8.4) Contractor .308 Sniper Rifle Rate of Fire increased to 200 (from 150) Weapon kick changed to 2/3/-0.3/0.3 (from 2/3.8/-0.3/0.3) Damage increased to 200 (from 160) Grom Sniper Rifle Weapon kick changed to 2/3/-0.3/0.3 (from 2/3.8/-0.3/0.3) Akimbo MP40 Submachine Guns Total ammo increased to 160 (from 80) Ammo pickup increased to 1.6 - 5.6 (from 0.8 - 2.8) M308 Assault Rifle Ammo pickup increased to 2.1 - 3.85 (from 0.7 - 2.45) HE Round No longer grants a bonus to minimum falloff range (uses the default 20m) Maximum falloff range decreased to 62m (from 115m) Flechette No longer grants a bonus to minimum or maximum falloff range (uses the default 20m - 50m) Dragon's Breath No longer grants a bonus to minimum or maximum falloff range (uses the default 20m - 50m)
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this is, of course, after total crackdown got all of the rebalanced weapon numbers plugged in A shockingly small amount of changes. I wonder when they'll unfuck DMRs.
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It's been posted publicly elsewhere, so... There's an upcoming beta planned with another major change. Damage falloff will be implemented for all player guns. Previously this was only the case for shotguns.
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Discendo Vox posted:It's been posted publicly elsewhere, so... But why though  To the overkill employee reading this thread, I was joking about damage fall off introduced in the balance beta (even including snipers[???]) EorayMel fucked around with this message at 22:53 on Feb 28, 2021 |
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the ammo changes are good, especially the AMR (holy gently caress that old minimum can’t have been intentional  ) but i really don’t get why flechettes and HE ammo are being nerfed, i hope that it means a bigger overhaul is coming or something
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Oh joy, flechettes are literally worse than nothing. If this isn't a sign of upcoming per-pellet damage, someone really doesn't have the slightest clue about that ammo. I run sub-10 accuracy shotguns for a drat good reason. Seems like AMR-16 went from 1%-3.5% to 3%-5.5%. So, from Other to Medium/High Capacity AR? Glad to see the M308 is also clawing back some of its usefulness. Another change from Other to Medium/High Capacity AR.
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Per pellet shotgun damage would be incredibly lame, tbh. For all the grousing about the previous game design lead, he never caved on that even though it looked like it would happen at least a few times.
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UnknownMercenary posted:Per pellet shotgun damage would be incredibly lame, tbh. For all the grousing about the previous game design lead, he never caved on that even though it looked like it would happen at least a few times. The trinary shotgun damage thing is up there with "hateable enemies" and "action packed dubstep" in terms of reasons for Payday 2's success.
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per pellet damage would suck so much and require reworking just way too much for something that doesn’t actually improve the game at all
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watho posted:per pellet damage would suck so much and require reworking just way too much for something that doesn’t actually improve the game at all But enough about damage drop off for every weapon (Unless it was a crackdown-only thing all along in that case and not Overkill's balancing style but either way )
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per-pellet damage is happening in total crackdown as an optional ammo mod and i gotta say... it mostly feels bad! like it's a neat thing to have if you want it, but it's only really useful for dumping damage on something absurdly tanky like a dozer or a boss, which are comparatively rare (or extremely) rare compared to the amount of legions of cops that normal Payday 2 shotguns are extremely efficient at handling
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The Heist: Dragon Heist The Payday Gang must approach through the streets of Chinatown and infiltrate the triad operation which is hidden behind a tea shop. Once inside, it’s about finding and extracting the priceless dragon statue, by any means necessary. The heist is available in both stealth and loud, and has a variety of preplanning options to allow players to customize their approach. quote:
t;ldr damage drop off is now an official thing I guess, decided to be added in 2021 instead of implemented at launch of 2013, but Also the peacemaker is not as atrocious to use now but the m60 is now loving useless after getting mauled by the nerf bat. EorayMel fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Mar 17, 2021 |
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Time for the RPK to shineEorayMel posted:The Heist: Dragon Heist Oh come on the gently caress is this
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Tulip posted:Time for the RPK to shine if you're looking for realism in busting up your transpacific organized crime money laundering operations don't hold your breath waiting for the gang to steal an apartment building
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The slug change lmao holy gently caress We sniper shotguns now baby
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Grapplejack posted:The slug change lmao holy gently caress I loved using slugs to punch through shields and then I learned how to punch shields
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Grapplejack posted:The slug change lmao holy gently caress To be fair, that's basically what rifled slugs (plus a rifled barrel) does for a shotgun in real life. Maybe not quite to the extent of an actual sniper rifle, but definitely at the combat ranges this game deals in.
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I loved slugs in STALKER for "you can convert your lovely, cheap-to-repair pump action into a long range weapon on the fly." FAUXTON posted:if you're looking for realism in busting up your transpacific organized crime money laundering operations don't hold your breath waiting for the gang to steal an apartment building Realism is not even in the same country as what I'm annoyed by.
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Played the heist off someone. Took about 15 minutes loud. I have not noticed anything significant with the damage dropoff changes (yet) despite such a bewildering decision to include it in 2021 instead of 2013 at launch or in 2014's perk system overhaul or even as 2015's global rebalance. But I digress: You go into the tea shop, find the back door, hack a computer like Reservoir Dogs day 1 to open it. Then you go into a cellar where there is a forklift and a partially opened shutter leading to a warehouse. You must find keys to the forklift, then drive it into the shutter and jam it open, thus getting you to the warehouse, like generic chunk from Election Day plan A. You then drill open a fortified door via thermal drill, and there's an asset that delivers a derailed cable car to your starting point in the street sort've like Vlad's Surprise but not really. The drill is only about 200 seconds long, but then you find out the inner door inside the secure warehouse room is electrified like Firestarter day 3. You must then find a blowtorch to disconnect the gated shock door so it may be opened safely with keys. Then you open crates like finding the prototype in Beneath The Mountain complete with C4 traps, but the twist is you can collect the C4 if you are aware/fast enough and then use it to blow a hole for an easier escape and more convenient loot drop off. Then you run back into the street, wait for a minute like Breakfast in Tijuanna, then the van pulls up and you finish it. A little less spectacular than I expected but Also undocumented update: little friend now has 60 rifle bullets, but only 2 grenades carried. Without fully loaded. And I think the grenade pickup got worse
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Tulip posted:I loved slugs in STALKER for "you can convert your lovely, cheap-to-repair pump action into a long range weapon on the fly." yes it's more than a touch racist
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Good changes to weapons, but very few of them (see also: none) are enough to address underlying problems.
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