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Kyte
Nov 19, 2013

Never quacked for this

Liar Lyre posted:

I love the little bits of word play in Vtuber names. I just learned that Reine’s family name, Pavolia, contains the genus name for peafowl, Pavo.
In spanish (and probably in other romance languages) "peacock" is called "pavo real" (literally royal turkey).
In addition, "queen" is "reina".
Pavolia Reine.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=je4tbBV0kLg

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nielsm
Jun 1, 2009



Che Delilas posted:

I agree though, the clip channels are very useful for giving you those choice bits that can really grab you and turn you into a fan.

But keep in mind that clips can also lie, even if the individual clips are accurate. The clips select moments and presents them, but remember that they may cover a total of maybe 5% of the actual production of that Vtuber, and if clips is your only way of consuming you're missing the remaining 95%.
When Polka did her Necrobarista reading last night, the chat kept getting overseas viewers surprised she could be engrossed in this kind of novel-game and just voice acting all the lines with genuine feeling, instead of shouting and being chaotic. That's all she ever gets clipped for, so most international viewers don't know that side. I'm sure this is also the case for many of the other talents. I've had many comments that my Polka clips are what made someone actually fall in love with her, not all the silly ones. The clips lie by omission.

Red Minjo
Oct 20, 2010

Out of the houses, which is the most blue?

The answer might not be be obvious at first.

Gravy Boat 2k
I'm never not gonna see her name as Ravioli Penne.

RealFoxy
May 11, 2011

I'm not making a fucking QCS thread for this but seriously can we take a harder stance on Kiwifarms freaks like this guy, Jesus Christ seriously, you used to be better at knocking these creeps down. I guess ADTRW mods aren't responsible like GBS mods are.

nielsm posted:

But keep in mind that clips can also lie, even if the individual clips are accurate. The clips select moments and presents them, but remember that they may cover a total of maybe 5% of the actual production of that Vtuber, and if clips is your only way of consuming you're missing the remaining 95%.
When Polka did her Necrobarista reading last night, the chat kept getting overseas viewers surprised she could be engrossed in this kind of novel-game and just voice acting all the lines with genuine feeling, instead of shouting and being chaotic. That's all she ever gets clipped for, so most international viewers don't know that side. I'm sure this is also the case for many of the other talents. I've had many comments that my Polka clips are what made someone actually fall in love with her, not all the silly ones. The clips lie by omission.
huh? I don't know many streamers in any platform that are just yelling and screaming and playing to an audience 100% of the time

I don't know many people that expects streamers to be like that 100% of the time either. They aren't actors or pro wrestlers, none of them are in character all the time, it's just their personality turned up a tad

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!

RealFoxy posted:

huh? I don't know many streamers in any platform that are just yelling and screaming and playing to an audience 100% of the time

I don't know many people that expects streamers to be like that 100% of the time either. They aren't actors or pro wrestlers, none of them are in character all the time, it's just their personality turned up a tad

Most casual fans of hololive don't know that Matsuri is a pretty chill girl and not a raving harem lunatic.

RealFoxy
May 11, 2011

I'm not making a fucking QCS thread for this but seriously can we take a harder stance on Kiwifarms freaks like this guy, Jesus Christ seriously, you used to be better at knocking these creeps down. I guess ADTRW mods aren't responsible like GBS mods are.

Tae posted:

Most casual fans of hololive don't know that Matsuri is a pretty chill girl and not a raving harem lunatic.
I guess it just loops back to there just being so many Hololive streamers that if you're not closely following one of them, all you see are their memable moments and clips :shrug:

Justus
Apr 18, 2006

...

Tae posted:

Most casual fans of hololive don't know that Matsuri is a pretty chill girl and not a raving harem lunatic.


“I am God, OK?”

Jerkface
May 21, 2001

HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE DEAD, MOTHERFUCKER?

Holo is doing a debut and then immediately doing a 2nd stream to chill and vibe is a really good system. I felt like the wait from debut to next stream was pretty long for holoen specifically, so I hope their 2nd gen gets to do it this other way.

fucking love Fiona Apple
Jun 19, 2013

samus comfy so what

The Hololive subreddit has been going nuts making memes with Walfie's smol Ame and these two are my favorites so far.



fucking love Fiona Apple fucked around with this message at 22:25 on Dec 6, 2020

Revolver Bunker
May 12, 2004

「この一撃にかけるっ!」

Lyer posted:

I kind of wish there were more condensed/best of clip compilations of big events, like the sports festival or big collabs. There's probably a metric poo poo ton of fantastic JP only collabs that no one knows about. Granted translating that is a thankless job and doing quick clips for youtube is more profitable, but overviews of big events like this at least brings a lot of awareness. Coincidentally Pekora talked about this (if the live TL was right) in today's minecraft, stream, that Asacoco is really good for this type of thing.

I'm usually able to find clips from off collabs of Hololive members. Usually a clip of certain parts of the event or summaries. I know a fair amount of clips came out for the Hololive Sports Festival. If I find any that haven't been posted I'll try to link them in the thread.

Liar Lyre
Jun 3, 2011

Here to deliver
~Bad Opinions~

loving love Fiona Apple posted:

The Hololive subreddit has been going smnuts making memes with Walfie's smol Ame and these two are my favorites so far.






cathead
Jan 21, 2004

RealFoxy posted:

huh? I don't know many streamers in any platform that are just yelling and screaming and playing to an audience 100% of the time

I don't know many people that expects streamers to be like that 100% of the time either. They aren't actors or pro wrestlers, none of them are in character all the time, it's just their personality turned up a tad

Like some people have kinda already said, I think there's... I don't know that I'd call it an issue, but just a natural thing that's developed as Hololive has grown overseas where a lot of fans just only get things from clips (especially for JP holos) and you can tell since whenever they comment/chat about them or post memes on reddit that's all they seem to talk about (boin boin Rushia, horny Marine, crazy Polka, etc.). I think it's a byproduct of the language barrier, only having so much time to watch streams/clips, and what the majority of subbers choose to clip since they're all in it for different reasons. I think you even still get this with HoloEN somewhat, like Ame tends to get a lot more gremlin-moments in contrast to her more cute and chill moments.

Not a whole lot to be done about it, it just gets a tiny bit annoying if they're your oshi since it's like "maaaan you're missing out on so much!". I really appreciate subbers like nielsm that take the time to go off the beaten path with the content and I encourage people to seek those sorts of channels out and support them, in the hopes those moments get out to more people.

DoubleDonut
Oct 22, 2010


Fallen Rib
broke: boin boin rushia
woke: kvlt rushia

Misanthropic Void
Oct 9, 2012

DoubleDonut posted:

woke: kvlt rushia

One can wish, one can wish.

Amp
Sep 10, 2010

:11tea::bubblewoop::agesilaus::megaman::yoshi::squawk::supaburn::iit::spooky::axe::honked::shroom::smugdog::sg::pkmnwhy::parrot::screamy::tubular::corsair::sanix::yeeclaw::hayter::flip::redflag:
Got into a Mario Kart game with Walfie and Ame :3:

nielsm
Jun 1, 2009



Have a bunch of serious, thoughtful Hololive clips.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4MzdprZr3E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mu9rZe6-N8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlsZFYDbOnY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mumqKnZ_3j0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Exr5e-ZYtSk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBlF-xtbKSs

Badingading
Sep 2, 2011

RealFoxy posted:

I guess it just loops back to there just being so many Hololive streamers that if you're not closely following one of them, all you see are their memable moments and clips :shrug:

You can tell who the new/casual viewers are in Nene's streams by whether they keep joking about iCarly in chat.

Unrelated to that, have this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ViV59xIqqk

Kyte
Nov 19, 2013

Never quacked for this

cathead posted:

Like some people have kinda already said, I think there's... I don't know that I'd call it an issue, but just a natural thing that's developed as Hololive has grown overseas where a lot of fans just only get things from clips (especially for JP holos) and you can tell since whenever they comment/chat about them or post memes on reddit that's all they seem to talk about (boin boin Rushia, horny Marine, crazy Polka, etc.). I think it's a byproduct of the language barrier, only having so much time to watch streams/clips, and what the majority of subbers choose to clip since they're all in it for different reasons. I think you even still get this with HoloEN somewhat, like Ame tends to get a lot more gremlin-moments in contrast to her more cute and chill moments.

Not a whole lot to be done about it, it just gets a tiny bit annoying if they're your oshi since it's like "maaaan you're missing out on so much!". I really appreciate subbers like nielsm that take the time to go off the beaten path with the content and I encourage people to seek those sorts of channels out and support them, in the hopes those moments get out to more people.

This is basically why Kiara started Holotalk, although it also depends on how much the guest leans into their memes. Fubuki did a great job there, while I feel Marine could've afforded to set aside the horny thing for a while.

Revolver Bunker
May 12, 2004

「この一撃にかけるっ!」
These clips are a bit old but might be new to some. Just going to spread the good word.

Highlight reel of Aqua attempting to speedrun Dark Souls:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucZTJjFZMuE

Highlight reel of Suisei and her Project Winter Games:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnvoesggaF4

Clip of Oga from Holostars and Fubuki from Hololive being Maid/Oujo respectively while playing Getting Over it: (They're interactions are some of my favorite.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgh_Y2errzI

HololiveJP Among Us Collab POV compilation:
Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JJ6EwFPd_8
Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDIGhr4uTdo
Part 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zA8sl3s1Abs

Marine taking a single piece of fan art and turning it into an entire stream where she is a grandma:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9ftpQHPwGI

Aqua being stuck in Marine voice hell:
First strike: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjhQk21hPMU
Second Run: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEMArGV27qM

Aqua talks about being awkward with Marine: (Introverts dilemma)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hmwNMCofpk

Okayu and Korone being TeeTee:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CkUuMX7xOg

Akai Haato's early decent into madness:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN13J15TkSY

Rushia talking about cats (no screaming):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T22xq3EKoyI

Lt. Lizard
Apr 28, 2013

Badingading posted:

You can tell who the new/casual viewers are in Nene's streams by whether they keep joking about iCarly in chat.

Unrelated to that, have this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ViV59xIqqk

Nene is steadily growing more and more powerful. :allears:

PerOlus
Jan 26, 2003

We'r even, seńor!

Schneider Heim posted:

For those of you who are academically-inclined, someone with an actual PhD made a lecture on vtubers that talks about social cognition, superchats, and parasocial interactions/relationships:

https://twitch.tv/videos/824679009

I suppose most of you already know all the points on a visceral level but it's fun to listen to someone apply a degree of academic rigor into it.

(she's also going to be debuting as a vtuber soon, so it's an added layer of meta)

Good stuff. Always interesting with stuff that doesn't relate directly to the channels themselves, like analysis, business, etc.

Log082
Nov 8, 2008


Trivia from Ame's stream: Her and Gura have reached the friendship level where she often thinks about messaging gura only for gura to immediately message her before she can.

Liar Lyre
Jun 3, 2011

Here to deliver
~Bad Opinions~

Aruran is continuing the cultural exchange streams by learning and teaching tongue twisters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCYBjKXrCps

Lyer
Feb 4, 2008

https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1335731084642795520

Pretty solid week from Callie, I hope Kiara and her stick through A Way Out to the end.

Intoluene
Jul 6, 2011

Activating self-destruct sequence!
Fun Shoe
Blasphemous is a good game and looking at how she enjoyed They Bleed Pixels, she'll probably enjoy it.

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007

Intoluene posted:

Blasphemous is a good game and looking at how she enjoyed They Bleed Pixels, she'll probably enjoy it.

yeah i was thinking that given shes a castlevania/bloodborne head, it would be extremely her poo poo

also i like that its pretty much the only game i can think of that can be described as "overbearingly catholic"

Patware
Jan 3, 2005

if you know anyone that wonders about the difference between Christianity and Catholicism just show them literally any screenshot from Blasphemous

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

https://twitter.com/Hashi6001/status/1334010670048628736?s=19

Justus
Apr 18, 2006

...
I'm extremely looking forward to the Blasphemous stream. That game is Bloodborne difficult and has tons of "what the gently caress did I just see" imagery. Like, I guess you'd call it Euro-catholicism brutality porn/body horror?

Brunom1
Sep 5, 2011

Ask me about being the best dad ever.

Extremely proud to see Peko representing Xenoblade, my favorite JRPG of the last decade. Now they just have to add a free DLC that replaces the Monado Buster sound effect with "KITIRA! ZAN!".

I cannot believe they didn't give Miko GTA5, though.

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Viridiant posted:

Honestly Pekora is one of the ones I least expected to get a mouse pad and look where we are now.

i'm pretty sure her mousepad was made entirely for the noble purpose of Bullying Pekora by surprising her with it

trucutru posted:

That's such a ridiculous amount of work for such a small payoff. Takes a lot of confidence in your ability to entertain people to try something like that.

reminder that fubuki once streamed herself mining out an entire chunk for no reason

Yinlock fucked around with this message at 02:17 on Dec 7, 2020

cathead
Jan 21, 2004

Kyte posted:

while I feel Marine could've afforded to set aside the horny thing for a while.
Yeah I get this, Marine's a consummate entertainer though so I guess she feels that the horny bit is her big overseas appeal so she leans into it (since that's what she sees english-wise a lot on her chat anyway).

She's got a ton of older clips that show what an amazing storyteller and collab partner she can be. It's really fun to watch her collab with less talkative holos and get them to open up over the course of the stream. I guess the problem is most of those don't make it back into the algorithm after awhile. I've been a fan of hers for a long time but it would definitely take me awhile to go back looking for some of the best older clips because Youtube is crap. The vid in Revolver Bunker's post with Old Marine is super good though, I legit teared up during that stream.

Also you gotta admit it takes a special kind of person to go "Had to get a suppository" -> "So THIS is what BL boys feel like?!?" though...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyBesaRqgBI

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

cathead posted:

Yeah I get this, Marine's a consummate entertainer though so I guess she feels that the horny bit is her big overseas appeal so she leans into it (since that's what she sees english-wise a lot on her chat anyway).

She's got a ton of older clips that show what an amazing storyteller and collab partner she can be. It's really fun to watch her collab with less talkative holos and get them to open up over the course of the stream. I guess the problem is most of those don't make it back into the algorithm after awhile. I've been a fan of hers for a long time but it would definitely take me awhile to go back looking for some of the best older clips because Youtube is crap. The vid in Revolver Bunker's post with Old Marine is super good though, I legit teared up during that stream.

Also you gotta admit it takes a special kind of person to go "Had to get a suppository" -> "So THIS is what BL boys feel like?!?" though...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyBesaRqgBI

eh being Horny is part of her core personality, but like you said she'll never go further than what people are comfortable with so she can make friends with all the introverts super easily(this probably comes from having a shut-in sister)

Matsuri is kind of the opposite in that she'll go 0-10 no matter who she's with even if it makes them uncomfortable which kinda turns me away

e: I mean yeah there's a lot of stories of Matsuri being super supportive and helpful, but there's also a lot of her being a total creeplord who has to be yelled at to cut it out

Yinlock fucked around with this message at 02:27 on Dec 7, 2020

Momente
Mar 14, 2020

Brunom1 posted:

I cannot believe they didn't give Miko GTA5, though.

They did! Top row on the far right, it's cut off but you can see the start of her name「さく」(saku)

Brunom1
Sep 5, 2011

Ask me about being the best dad ever.

Momente posted:

They did! Top row on the far right, it's cut off but you can see the start of her name「さく」(saku)

Ah, so it is - I didn't even see the tag. All is right in the world, then.

Kyte
Nov 19, 2013

Never quacked for this
What I meant is that Fubuki for example plugged her radio shows and talked a bit about less visible facets of her output, which is basically what the show was about, and Marine could've capitalized on that a bit more.

On the other hand, there's always the chance for a second runaround.

InspectorCarbonara
Jul 2, 2010

Evening, patrolmaaan.
I'm assuming she's never streamed it due to Atlus being Atlus, so what's the connection with Fubuki and Persona 5? Has she just talked about liking it or something?

Lyer
Feb 4, 2008

Brunom1 posted:


I cannot believe they didn't give Miko GTA5, though.

Nah they're just waiting for the PS5 version before slapping her face all over it

CottonWolf
Jul 20, 2012

Good ideas generator

Justus posted:

I'm extremely looking forward to the Blasphemous stream. That game is Bloodborne difficult and has tons of "what the gently caress did I just see" imagery. Like, I guess you'd call it Euro-catholicism brutality porn/body horror?

Blasphemous is a fantastic game, and it's tricky in parts, but I don't really think it's comparable to Bloodborne. Sample size of one, but I can get through Blasphemous with relatively little trouble, but Bloodborne is like banging my head against a brick wall. I do have many years more experience with Metroidvanias though, admittedly.

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Tangents
Aug 23, 2008

alternate king cover by Nara Haramaung
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqGmrZaUe0Y

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