tarlibone posted:

Admiral Whatshisface tells Discovery, "You've done all you can! We need to call Triple A!" And Saru says "Wha?" and Tilly goes, "You mean the ancient automobile insurance company?" and admiral is all like "'da gently caress you talkin' about? How would I know about a 20th century auto insurance company?" and Michael says, "if you don't know about it, how did you know it was from the 20th century, I speak the truth!" and admiral goes "Stop it, I mean Triple A, which is what we call the ship whose name and registry have survived 704 generations, not including all the refits, because no matter what's going on, a ship with this name is in the middle of the biggest events."

Michael says, "You can't mean..."

Admiral replies, "Oh yes I do. It's time to call Cyber Will Riker, an android with Riker's consciousness, and he's in command of the USS Enterprise, NCC-1701-AAA!"

The ship shows up and it's got, like, 50 nacelles which are also quantphase cannons. He saves the day and has sex with everyone on Discovery, because Cyber Riker isn't just a lady's man anymore. They call him pan because of his evolved sexuality and because of his cybergoat legs, hindcyberquarters, and cyberhorns.

MichiganCubbie posted:

Maybe he always was one. Just because we're moving through time in one direction doesn't mean he is.

Doctor Nutt posted:

Wow what the gently caress man this made me run to imdb to check and see what's up with Michael Hogan and it appears he is appearing in things as of 2020?

Acer Pilot posted:

He had a traumatic brain injury after a bad fall.

https://globalnews.ca/news/7350227/michael-hogan-battlestar-galactica-fall-gofundme/

Acer Pilot posted:

He had a traumatic brain injury after a bad fall.

https://globalnews.ca/news/7350227/michael-hogan-battlestar-galactica-fall-gofundme/

The_Doctor posted:

Taear posted:

Finally saw all of lower decks, that final episode really is something special. I already knew the story since I read in dark mode and always see spoilers but it was still good.

I cannot believe rich fulcher was in it! Almost as weird as Hayley Joel Osmont being the ascending guy in the earlier episode.

I do hope season 2 manages to keep the energy that last episode had

Delsaber posted:

Gingerbread has the perfect colour for the (pre-refit) Disco.

I'd eat all the figures except the cat.

The_Doctor posted:

She is a queen.

Brawnfire posted:

All I'm interested in is a Grudge bottle episode

nine-gear crow posted:

They did a "bottle" episode of Voltron on Netflix in its last season where it was all in the POV of a cambot that one of the lower decks crew was doing a documentary on the big warship they were on with, and halfway through the episode, a typical episode of Voltron breaks out and the cambot is left to wander aimlessly around the ship as everyone rushes to battle stations. Occasionally you'd get a glimpse of some really awesome poo poo happening outside the window, and it even made it up to the bridge for like five seconds, but mostly it was doing poo poo like getting bashed around the ventilation shafts or winding up in the mess hall or the hydroponics bay as explosions were going off just off camera.

Do that, but on Discovery and with the cat.

Neddy Seagoon posted:

I thin the shift to a ten-episode season average instead of twenty for TV shows has sadly killed these sorts of episodes in shows like Star Trek, because you gotta keep that plot chugging along there's no time to stop and do a purely-silly/gimmick episode anymore.

The_Doctor posted:

Shows that still do a 22 ep season feel so weirdly outdated now. Virtually every show I watch tops out at 12 a season now. I would love a 22 ep Disco season.

nine-gear crow posted:

In theory, scaling back the seasons from like 22-24 episodes to 12-15 instead is a good idea because there were a LOT of episodes of TNG, Voyager, and Enterprise that were just "I don't loving know, here's an episode because we've got to do like 30 of them this year or something", and even DS9 had a few "we're stretching poo poo out because we have to cover 20 episodes so this is gonna take a while" when they rolled over to serialization. So cutting down on that stuff is good.

Unfortunately, in practice led to rushed poo poo like Disco and Picard and "We spent five hours of television setting A Mystery--ooo shiny thing--aaaaand we're at the finale, gently caress what story were we trying to tell again?"

FlamingLiberal posted:

It's especially bad with Picard, because the first four episodes are basically the pilot. That's 1/3 of the whole season.

nine-gear crow posted:

I really hope Picard Season 2 is more episodic and just La Sirena going from place to place getting involved in poo poo for a day and moving on Mandalorian-style. Because I really liked the cast and the individual episodes of Picard, but it did not work as a complete story, so if they can get away from that then good.

They won't though

nine-gear crow posted:

I really hope Picard Season 2 is more episodic and just La Sirena going from place to place getting involved in poo poo for a day and moving on Mandalorian-style. Because I really liked the cast and the individual episodes of Picard, but it did not work as a complete story, so if they can get away from that then good.

They won't though

nine-gear crow posted:

I really hope Picard Season 2 is more episodic and just La Sirena going from place to place getting involved in poo poo for a day and moving on Mandalorian-style. Because I really liked the cast and the individual episodes of Picard, but it did not work as a complete story, so if they can get away from that then good.

They won't though

Neddy Seagoon posted:

Well if they DO rip off ME2 for next season you might get your monkey-paw wish as they get a team together episode-by-episode for the big Suicide Mission operation against tentacle AI hellbent on destroying organic life.

Cojawfee posted:

It's weird to remember that shows used to be on all year.

nine-gear crow posted:

In theory, scaling back the seasons from like 22-24 episodes to 12-15 instead is a good idea because there were a LOT of episodes of TNG, Voyager, and Enterprise that were just "I don't loving know, here's an episode because we've got to do like 30 of them this year or something", and even DS9 had a few "we're stretching poo poo out because we have to cover 20 episodes so this is gonna take a while" when they rolled over to serialization. So cutting down on that stuff is good.

The_Doctor posted:

Shows that still do a 22 ep season feel so weirdly outdated now. Virtually every show I watch tops out at 12 a season now. I would love a 22 ep Disco season.

Doctor Nutt posted:

It's a balancing act for sure. I think one thing people tend to forget is that while 26 episode seasons produces a lot of filler and lovely episodes, there were often great character touches even in the bad ones. How many quit little scenes that developed the relationship between Data and Geordie do you lose cutting TNG down to 11 eps a season?

Neddy Seagoon posted:

You'd never get something like the Moriarty episodes, or possibly even bits like their regular poker nights.

If you want an example of what DOES happen when you try to write an 11-episode show like a 22'er, watch the third season of Dark Matter and see just how many concurrent plot threads they try to develop and write like they're meant to have room to breathe across a larger season among standalone episodes. It's a total trainwreck.

Doctor Nutt posted:

Ah man I watched Dark Matter and was enjoying it as a not-Stargate until it got cancelled. It wasn't perfect but I liked the cast and it was very Canada Sci-Fi.

nine-gear crow posted:

In theory, scaling back the seasons from like 22-24 episodes to 12-15 instead is a good idea because there were a LOT of episodes of TNG, Voyager, and Enterprise that were just "I don't loving know, here's an episode because we've got to do like 30 of them this year or something", and even DS9 had a few "we're stretching poo poo out because we have to cover 20 episodes so this is gonna take a while" when they rolled over to serialization. So cutting down on that stuff is good.

Unfortunately, in practice led to rushed poo poo like Disco and Picard and "We spent five hours of television setting A Mystery--ooo shiny thing--aaaaand we're at the finale, gently caress what story were we trying to tell again?"

MikeJF posted:

The thing about all of those 'I don't know' episodes is that it's what let them experiment, and a lot of old Trek's best episodes were where they decided to experiment a bit.

Erulisse posted:

Also much of character development and relations development happened during those episodes.

FlamingLiberal posted:

Yeah it sucks because you can't do some of the episodes they would do on DS9 or TNG that would focus on guest crew people like Barclay or Ro Laren. So we get so little development for all of the other Disco bridge crew. Like I can't really tell you much of anything about Rhys or the other guy. Or Nilsson. At least we have had some development on Owo and Detmer.

Alchenar posted:

What development has Owo had beyond 'she's Detmer's (only?) friend'.

Her job on the ship is to lean over to Detmer occasionally and say "it'll be alright, you got this".

Josh Lyman posted:

Yeah they really screwed up from the start by making it the Michael Burham power hour when the format of Star Trek lends itself to an ensemble. This is not 24 in space, much as the show runners seem to want it to be.