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McSpergin
Sep 10, 2013

NomNomNom posted:

That was the question though? Why do you want a spinning death wheel? If we can understand the purpose, just maybe we can help you with your questions.

Also what this guy said. Actually describing what you're trying to achieve here may help rather than just describing something as a spinning death wheel! Communication is key, I know it's not easy for people on the spectrum to communicate effectively but take the time to think it out and describe it better

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I. M. Gei
Jun 26, 2005

CHIEFS

BITCH



McSpergin posted:

Also what this guy said. Actually describing what you're trying to achieve here may help rather than just describing something as a spinning death wheel! Communication is key, I know it's not easy for people on the spectrum to communicate effectively but take the time to think it out and describe it better

It wasn’t a power tool — and I wasn’t even going to put actual blades on it, just some rubber cutouts where the blades would go (I don’t even know where I’d get blades for something like this) — but it was something that would sound incredibly stupid if I told you what it was, especially now.

Like I said though, I’m not doing it anymore. The fun is gone. I’m not a loving sideshow act.

I might be okay with telling a mod what it was over PM, but only if I can trust them not to call me stupid or tell anyone else about it, since the last loving thing I need is more assholes laughing at me. My life sucks enough as it is.

Erwin
Feb 17, 2006

I. M. Gei posted:

It wasn’t a power tool — and I wasn’t even going to put actual blades on it, just some rubber cutouts where the blades would go (I don’t even know where I’d get blades for something like this) — but it was something that would sound incredibly stupid if I told you what it was, especially now.

Like I said though, I’m not doing it anymore. The fun is gone. I’m not a loving sideshow act.

I might be okay with telling a mod what it was over PM, but only if I can trust them not to call me stupid or tell anyone else about it, since the last loving thing I need is more assholes laughing at me. My life sucks enough as it is.

A lot of the questions you ask are examples of the XY Problem and you'd get a lot less grief if you recognized that and asked the right questions.

I. M. Gei posted:

bitch YOU try living with ADHD

That is not ADHD.

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

I. M. Gei posted:

Y’all can go ahead and knock it right the gently caress off with all the “I. M. Gei is too loving stupid/r******* to be people, he must be a performance troll cuz zaurg” poo poo. That poo poo really loving pisses me off, and the PM I got from a mod (you know who you are) asking if I’m really a real person and not a troll doesn’t loving help poo poo; it just implies that I’m too big a fuckup to be called a “person” and makes me wonder if I’m the crazy one, and that’s not okay. I didn’t reply to it because just looking at it made me too angry to put together coherent sentences.

This isn’t the only forum I’ve had this happen in, and I don’t know wtf I’m doing to make people think it (which is starting to make me think I’m going insane) but it honestly feels like punching down at this point.

Actually, gently caress it, this is not a request. I don’t know how to advocate for myself (thanks autism!) so I’m gonna be blunt: This poo poo is not okay at all. Doesn’t matter if I “deserve it”. It’s still not okay. Stop it!


bitch YOU try living with ADHD

here on the Something Awful comedy forums we like to make fun of each other a bit because its fun and its a way to bond between friends. i hope this helps you understand what was happening

JEEVES420
Feb 16, 2005

The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it

McSpergin posted:

I'm gonna tell you as someone who is in the process of figuring out what mental "ism" I have through psychology, there's a key thing here:

A) don't build power tools if you're not entirely 100% sure of exactly what you're trying to achieve
B) don't build anything that can be powered and will hurt or kill you unless you're 100% sure you know what you're doing

I'm a mechanical engineer and I'm telling you right now, DO NOT build something with moving parts and power that have potential to kill you. There's a reason stuff is available off the shelf, and there's also a reason that some stuff goes through recalls due to safety concerns.

Idk if you're actually legit posting but I'm gonna tell you it straight: I, as a mechanical engineer who has operated CNC machines, designed equipment to be used in infant medical retrieval, heavy industrial truck bodies, specialist water treatment systems and nuclear process equipment, am telling you do not gently caress with stuff you "think" you can build, because "I think" isn't "I know" and even "I know" isn't always "I know".

But if you're not going to listen to me or anyone else here you've only yourself to blame.

If you wanna build something buy the correct equipment to do so, or use some at a makerspace or something.

/Rant

How do you know what things you don't know unless you try the things you think you know?

Cannon_Fodder
Jul 17, 2007

"Hey, where did Steve go?"
Design by Kamoc

I. M. Gei posted:

It wasn’t a power tool — and I wasn’t even going to put actual blades on it, just some rubber cutouts where the blades would go (I don’t even know where I’d get blades for something like this) — but it was something that would sound incredibly stupid if I told you what it was, especially now.

Like I said though, I’m not doing it anymore. The fun is gone. I’m not a loving sideshow act.

I might be okay with telling a mod what it was over PM, but only if I can trust them not to call me stupid or tell anyone else about it, since the last loving thing I need is more assholes laughing at me. My life sucks enough as it is.

Was it a spanking machine?

I bet it was a spanking machine.

To be fair, I support your spanking machine.

Sorry you're getting poo poo on, broski. As others said, communication is key, but I'd like to chip in and say you're on the tool forum. People here tend to discuss things in a more technical way so it will pay dividends to consider that in your post.

Perhaps "Spinning death wheel" could have been "rotary spank drum" or "rubberized clown-glove rear end sanding cylinder".

I mean, you mentioned it wasn't a power tool, perhaps add manual to that as well.

"A manual manual rump adjudicator" might be a tad over the top though.

Cannon_Fodder fucked around with this message at 15:49 on Dec 7, 2020

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

McSpergin posted:

But if you're not going to listen to me or anyone else here you've only yourself to blame.

This is their first problem. Constantly asking for advice and not taking it. Why ask in the first place?

I. M. Gei posted:

It wasn’t a power tool — and I wasn’t even going to put actual blades on it, just some rubber cutouts where the blades would go

Then there's this poo poo. Asking a questions about something, not asking the question about that thing. And not even asking good ones. And then continuing to move the goalposts.

This has nothing to do with ADHD. And nobody here knows nor should be expected to know your medical history. All we have to go on is what you have voluntarily typed into the somethingawful dot com forums. And those thing make it look like you are a troll or a bad faith poster. If you don't want to come off looking like that you should change the way you post and ask questions.

powderific
May 13, 2004

Grimey Drawer
I. M. Gei I don't want you to feel bad, but anything that can drive through solid oak like that could maim or kill you. Nothing about what you said previously suggested that the thing you wanted to build would be a harmless mockup or whatever. People, I think understandably, do not want to answer the question without checking the premise.

With the ruler thing, trying to help you get a better ruler or figure out why they didn't match was a waste of time and sent you down the wrong path because it was the wrong question and we could have skipped all that and just found the right question, which was more like "how do you measure things for basic carpentry?" The question "how can I calculate the force to split halfway through an oak log" absolutely prompts some premise-questioning, especially in a thread that's more about practical everyday tool use than abstract physics problems.

Kaiser Schnitzel
Mar 29, 2006

Schnitzel mit uns


I. M. Gei posted:

For the record, the thing I was thinking about building wasn’t a giant motorized wood-splitter like in that video. When I said I was trying to build a “spinning death wheel” like that goon said, what I meant was that I wanted to make something round, that might be able to cut through wood if I could get the math to work.

Now I’m thinking I’ll just loving abandon it though. What’s even the point?
So you are trying to reinvent a giant (unsafe and almost certainly underpowered) circular saw? Or like a meat slicer for wood? Wood doesn’t really work that way-you can’t push a giant blade through it crossgrain without removing wood to give space for the blade. This is why we cut wood with saws, not giant razor blades. If you had said ‘I need to cut up some oak logs’ we could have given you lots of good recommendations for chainsaws or hand saws or axes or what have you, but without having any idea what your goal is, it’s very hard to give you accurate advice. We’re all fighting a hard battle these days, and yes, we could probably all do a little better at being nice to each other, but it also seems like you are asking us to tell you how to kill or maim yourself, which is not something we want you to do.


Cannon_Fodder posted:

Was it a spanking machine?

I bet it was a spanking machine.

To be fair, I support your spanking machine.

Sorry you're getting poo poo on, broski. As others said, communication is key, but I'd like to chip in and say you're on the tool forum. People here tend to discuss things in a more technical way so it will pay dividends to consider that in your post.

Perhaps "Spinning death wheel" could have been "rotary spank drum" or "rubberized clown-glove rear end sanding cylinder".

I mean, you mentioned it wasn't a power tool, perhaps add manual to that as well.

"A manual manual rump adjudicator" might be a tad over the top though.
This is important and it’s not spelled out clearly in the rules, but I want to stress right now in my big loud mod voice that kinkshaming absolutely will not be tolerated in HCH. We will absolutely help anyone design a (safe) spanking machine.



powderific posted:

I. M. Gei I don't want you to feel bad, but anything that can drive through solid oak like that could maim or kill you. Nothing about what you said previously suggested that the thing you wanted to build would be a harmless mockup or whatever. People, I think understandably, do not want to answer the question without checking the premise.

With the ruler thing, trying to help you get a better ruler or figure out why they didn't match was a waste of time and sent you down the wrong path because it was the wrong question and we could have skipped all that and just found the right question, which was more like "how do you measure things for basic carpentry?" The question "how can I calculate the force to split halfway through an oak log" absolutely prompts some premise-questioning, especially in a thread that's more about practical everyday tool use than abstract physics problems.
This is a good post. We want to help you IM Gei but in this instance, with the information you gave, it really seemed like you were trying to do something potentially extremely dangerous to yourself, to others, and to property and we don’t want you on anyone else to get hurt.

Trabant
Nov 26, 2011

All systems nominal.
The other day I used these:



and they're fine, very good even!

However, I'm more interested in seeing the absolute unit Wichita Lineman motherfucker who'd be able to crimp 1/8" ferrules without destroying their hands in the process. Holy hell, that was a struggle.

Cannon_Fodder
Jul 17, 2007

"Hey, where did Steve go?"
Design by Kamoc
Are you implying I was kinkshaming?

Usually that includes shaming.

Man said he would "put rubber cutouts where blades would go".

Let's settle down a bit here.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

The ones I have are basically 30" bolt cutters with replaceable bits for each size. Those look very short and yeah, I can't imagine doing 1/8 or larger on that either.

Cannon_Fodder
Jul 17, 2007

"Hey, where did Steve go?"
Design by Kamoc

Trabant posted:

The other day I used these:



and they're fine, very good even!

However, I'm more interested in seeing the absolute unit Wichita Lineman motherfucker who'd be able to crimp 1/8" ferrules without destroying their hands in the process. Holy hell, that was a struggle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRc7ZDRcgrQ

This thing is super cool, immediately reminded me of the crimper except for much larger applications.

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you

Trabant posted:

The other day I used these:



and they're fine, very good even!

However, I'm more interested in seeing the absolute unit Wichita Lineman motherfucker who'd be able to crimp 1/8" ferrules without destroying their hands in the process. Holy hell, that was a struggle.

I used an 18" version of those to hang up a shade sail and it was excellent. Going to use them again to hang up a steel cable to string bistro lights along

Kaiser Schnitzel
Mar 29, 2006

Schnitzel mit uns


Cannon_Fodder posted:

Are you implying I was kinkshaming?

Usually that includes shaming.

Man said he would "put rubber cutouts where blades would go".

Let's settle down a bit here.

No you were very supportive and I wanted to hold your post up as a model of good, kink-positive posting!

Trabant
Nov 26, 2011

All systems nominal.

Cannon_Fodder posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRc7ZDRcgrQ

This thing is super cool, immediately reminded me of the crimper except for much larger applications.

gently caress, that's a neat thing!

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
A smaller version of that is used in aviation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=of9p70H7gdg

bobua
Mar 23, 2003
I'd trade it all for just a little more.

The I.M Gei style posts like these can be found in the IT area of forums a lot too.

You've got people playing with ideas and doing things that don't always make sense, but can be interesting experiments, fun, or learning experiences. You don't want to write a book explaining your hairbrained afternoon idea and answering questions about why, you just want some idea about some small part of the equation.


Its the same issue with standing in the plumbing department at home depot trying to get the guy with 20 years of plumbing experience to point you towards a fitting that would be just right for your replica 5th Element gun.

Megabook
Mar 13, 2019



Grimey Drawer

Cannon_Fodder posted:

Are you implying I was kinkshaming?

Usually that includes shaming.

Man said he would "put rubber cutouts where blades would go".

Let's settle down a bit here.

I think you are asking the wrong question. The right question is how else a log splitter could be repurposed as a sex toy? Flywheel or hydraulic, either is fine.

Mr. Mambold
Feb 13, 2011

Aha. Nice post.



Tools: We will absolutely help anyone build a safe spanking machine.

Vindolanda
Feb 13, 2012

It's just like him too, y'know?

Platystemon posted:

A smaller version of that is used in aviation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=of9p70H7gdg

Is there a term one would use to find the knockoff made by an enterprising gent in China? I’ve a hankering for such a tool but aviation quality prices are a bit high for my low-danger applications.

Cannon_Fodder
Jul 17, 2007

"Hey, where did Steve go?"
Design by Kamoc

Vindolanda posted:

Is there a term one would use to find the knockoff made by an enterprising gent in China? I’ve a hankering for such a tool but aviation quality prices are a bit high for my low-danger applications.

In my video, the guy makes one and walks you through it.

powderific
May 13, 2004

Grimey Drawer
The standard one is like $29 if you only ran into the fancy $80 versions. It also looks like something you might be able to DIY.

edit: beaten on the DIY with actual instructions it seems!

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
I think that the Clamptite orientation, with the twist‐tension axis perpendicular to the thing you’re clamping, is slightly more ergonomic.

Here’s one made from a turnbuckle, a wing nut, and a couple of bolts.

Vindolanda
Feb 13, 2012

It's just like him too, y'know?

Cannon_Fodder posted:

In my video, the guy makes one and walks you through it.

He does! But I’m restricted by tooling, noise and flammable surroundings. Looks like it’s the screw and turnbuckle, or pay the $29 and the heinous shipping fee here.

SpartanIvy
May 18, 2007
Hair Elf

bobua posted:

The I.M Gei style posts like these can be found in the IT area of forums a lot too.

You've got people playing with ideas and doing things that don't always make sense, but can be interesting experiments, fun, or learning experiences. You don't want to write a book explaining your hairbrained afternoon idea and answering questions about why, you just want some idea about some small part of the equation.


Its the same issue with standing in the plumbing department at home depot trying to get the guy with 20 years of plumbing experience to point you towards a fitting that would be just right for your replica 5th Element gun.

The difference between I.M Gei and both of your examples is that the stuff he is asking about can easily result in lost limbs and death.

McSpergin
Sep 10, 2013

JEEVES420 posted:

How do you know what things you don't know unless you try the things you think you know?

I'm talking specifically about making stuff like power tools in this instance, like I do some basic electrical wiring (i.e. connecting a motor to a VFD) because I'm 100% certain of what I'm doing. I'm trying to say if you don't understand what you're trying to achieve and don't know how to achieve it properly wrt something dangerous, maybe don't do it?

JEEVES420
Feb 16, 2005

The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it

McSpergin posted:

I'm talking specifically about making stuff like power tools in this instance, like I do some basic electrical wiring (i.e. connecting a motor to a VFD) because I'm 100% certain of what I'm doing. I'm trying to say if you don't understand what you're trying to achieve and don't know how to achieve it properly wrt something dangerous, maybe don't do it?

This is still a horrible stance as you make the assumption that someone can't learn what they are doing, so don't bother. Instead accept that someone asking questions has realized that they don't know how to achieve it properly and have stopped to get help understanding. Also thinking you are 100% certain of what you are doing is just as dangerous since you don't think you can make a mistake.

That being said if you are asking questions start with the end goal and then what you are stuck on. Keeping the ultimate goal a secret will only get you bad information not actual help.

McSpergin
Sep 10, 2013

JEEVES420 posted:

This is still a horrible stance as you make the assumption that someone can't learn what they are doing, so don't bother. Instead accept that someone asking questions has realized that they don't know how to achieve it properly and have stopped to get help understanding. Also thinking you are 100% certain of what you are doing is just as dangerous since you don't think you can make a mistake.

That being said if you are asking questions start with the end goal and then what you are stuck on. Keeping the ultimate goal a secret will only get you bad information not actual help.

That's not specifically what I'm trying to say and that's probably on my wording, I'm trying to get at something like "if you're talking about building something you're calling a spinning death wheel and have no prior experience building it, maybe don't build a spinning death wheel". You can absolutely learn the other stuff first but I'm trying to tell this dude something that can kill you easily isn't a good start. Start by finding out what you don't know and then figure that out, although I'm curious to know what he's trying to achieve with rubber and wood now based in his posts

For example: I built my 2x48 belt grinder only after understanding the electrical and mechanical side of it, if I wasn't mechanically inclined I absolutely would've bought off the shelf ready to go and spent the extra $1000 doing so. But as I've been taught/learnt basic wiring and mechanical stuff, I felt confident doing the wiring for motor and VFD

Tldr I'm also currently dealing with my own potential autism spectrum disorder and communication is absolutely a weak point for me in some instances, this being one

Cannon_Fodder
Jul 17, 2007

"Hey, where did Steve go?"
Design by Kamoc

McSpergin posted:

That's not specifically what I'm trying to say and that's probably on my wording, I'm trying to get at something like "if you're talking about building something you're calling a spinning death wheel and have no prior experience building it, maybe don't build a spinning death wheel". You can absolutely learn the other stuff first but I'm trying to tell this dude something that can kill you easily isn't a good start. Start by finding out what you don't know and then figure that out, although I'm curious to know what he's trying to achieve with rubber and wood now based in his posts

For example: I built my 2x48 belt grinder only after understanding the electrical and mechanical side of it, if I wasn't mechanically inclined I absolutely would've bought off the shelf ready to go and spent the extra $1000 doing so. But as I've been taught/learnt basic wiring and mechanical stuff, I felt confident doing the wiring for motor and VFD

Tldr I'm also currently dealing with my own potential autism spectrum disorder and communication is absolutely a weak point for me in some instances, this being one

Do you have a plan or some pics? I'm trying to source something similar and am having trouble.

Bioshuffle
Feb 10, 2011

No good deed goes unpunished

Can someone recommend a decent multimeter for the casual home owner? I'd like one to check out some doorbell wiring related stuff (since my voltage pen can't accurately detect the power), but I figure having one around the house would be helpful.

MrOnBicycle
Jan 18, 2008
Wait wat?
I bought a cheap UNI-T brand multimeter. Seems like they get decent reviews on YouTube and aren't dangerous to use. I've only used it for Automotive stuff though.

VVV: Yeah I ain't sticking poo poo into walls. I did buy a Fluke Voltage sensor thing for checking that the wall outlets are really off (as a double safety thing after switching off the mains).

MrOnBicycle fucked around with this message at 18:53 on Dec 8, 2020

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





If you are sure you will never use it to directly measure anything higher than ~40-50V, literally any multimeter will be fine. Yes, even the HF freebies. Checking for "is the voltage here and is it approximately right" doesn't require any real accuracy, and doorbell wiring doesn't represent a safety hazard.

If you think you might need to actually check voltage on wall outlets, get something from a reputable brand and safe supply chain.

lwoodio
Apr 4, 2008

I got two harbor freight multimeters free with coupons. The first one's lead fell apart in my hands the second time I used it. I cracked the other one open and stole its 9 volt battery and threw it away. I ended up buying an Amprobe AM-510 based on a recommendation from an electronics subreddit.

Filthy Hans
Jun 27, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 10 years!)

IOwnCalculus posted:

If you are sure you will never use it to directly measure anything higher than ~40-50V, literally any multimeter will be fine. Yes, even the HF freebies. Checking for "is the voltage here and is it approximately right" doesn't require any real accuracy, and doorbell wiring doesn't represent a safety hazard.

If you think you might need to actually check voltage on wall outlets, get something from a reputable brand and safe supply chain.

I don't need one in the near future, but are there any electrical meter manufacturers with a reputation as solid as Fluke's but not nearly as expensive?

Bioshuffle
Feb 10, 2011

No good deed goes unpunished

IOwnCalculus posted:

If you are sure you will never use it to directly measure anything higher than ~40-50V, literally any multimeter will be fine. Yes, even the HF freebies. Checking for "is the voltage here and is it approximately right" doesn't require any real accuracy, and doorbell wiring doesn't represent a safety hazard.

If you think you might need to actually check voltage on wall outlets, get something from a reputable brand and safe supply chain.

Is this one of those situations where, if I don't know if I'd use it for wall outlets, I probably won't ever have to deal with it again? I was thinking it'd be nice to have for checking car batteries and other little things around the house.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Filthy Hans posted:

I don't need one in the near future, but are there any electrical meter manufacturers with a reputation as solid as Fluke's

Yes.

Filthy Hans posted:

but not nearly as expensive?

No.

Turns out well built tools cost money.

I would suggest hitting up the used tool places for an older Fluke, Extech, or BK Precision.

stealie72
Jan 10, 2007
Tool thread:

Who makes the best work overalls (not insulated) for large goony people? I'm 6'4", 275 and love overalls for all the reasons that fat guys love them. I've got a 15 year old pair of carharts that are pretty dead (the elastic in the shoulders is limper than month old celery) that i want to replace with something a touch more modern.

I love Duluth's fire flex fabric, but I'm wary of their bibs because a lot of reviews complain that the elastic in the straps is too weak and long, making them slingshot as you move around. Going to guess that gets worse when you have a gut bouncing around in there like I do.

I've looked at walls and dickies and they just seem cheap and flimsy.

So what else is out there?

Filthy Hans
Jun 27, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 10 years!)

Motronic posted:

Yes.


No.

Turns out well built tools cost money.

I would suggest hitting up the used tool places for an older Fluke, Extech, or BK Precision.

what I figured

I've only used Fluke but never had to pay for one

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McSpergin
Sep 10, 2013

Cannon_Fodder posted:

Do you have a plan or some pics? I'm trying to source something similar and am having trouble.

I say built but in retrospect it's more "put together"

I got this kit here and a 1.5hp electric motor, and a 2.2 kw VFD, wired it up, got a base with it and made up a mobile base frame for it until I go somewhere I can bolt it down (8 weeks to go, my partner and I have bought a house in Sydney with a decent garage).

There's a lot of plans out there and I'd have loved to build one from scratch but I just didn't have the gear that I do now (i.e. this grinder and the MIG I got recently)

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