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Ugh this country is filled with people who know racism is bad, but just love their racism so much that they have to twist themselves into knots justifying saying and thinking racist things without being racist. FFS just own being a racist and be done with it! It’s like someone deciding it’s a good thing to be vegetarian, but since it’s so hard to give up meat, instead of just admitting they aren’t vegetarian they just redefine beef, chicken and pork as vegetables.
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it's also incredibly obvious that despite trying to get cute about it, you know that dude would never call some white dude who was born in China that slur so it absolutely is racial.
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Dec 7, 2020 20:57
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letthereberock posted:Ugh this country is filled with people who know racism is bad, but just love their racism so much that they have to twist themselves into knots justifying saying and thinking racist things without being racist. FFS just own being a racist and be done with it! There was a news story a while back where some church disowned someone because she (white woman) married a black guy, and the loving pastor was all "i'm not racist but  " and all I could think is that the only lesson this guy has absorbed is that you don't want to be called racist
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Dec 7, 2020 21:17
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The scope of racism for them is reduced to explicitly hateful personal acts. As long as you're not doing that, pat yourself on the back and recite that one line from "I have a dream"--congratulations, you're not a racist! They truly believe that as long as you don't directly cause harm to someone else while saying out loud "I'm doing this because of your skin color" then it doesn't count.
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Dec 7, 2020 21:25
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Yeah american culture in particular really internalized "racism is bad" and there's a strong contingent of racists who end up deep in cognitive dissonance to justify their beliefs. See also: for every open nazi there's ten people who've internalized "it was great that we, USA, greatest and noblest nation ever, helped beat Hitler, therefore Hitler was a leftist, but also he did have some good ideas..." I also think this contributes to culture shock when americans encounter european racists, or at least french ones. I'm a dual citizen and watching friends visit France and see the poo poo side of it... like basically, Jethro the Klansman knows when and how to use dogwhistles and when he can be honest about what he wants. In France a shithead is a lot more likely to see a fellow white (and/or male) person and just launch into their own personal Mein Kampf.
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Dec 7, 2020 21:28
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wizzardstaff posted:They truly believe that as long as you don't directly cause harm to someone else while saying out loud "I'm doing this because of your skin color" then it doesn't count. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBeeZVd6urI Nobody (white) is racist until we get a window into men's souls, and even then it'll be the window that is wrong (and racist) for some people.
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Anyway, Trump has managed to lose yet again (so much losing!), this time it's the "kraken" lawsuit in GA. Do these people even have original thoughts? quote:THE FIX IS IN........................... quote:Now everything seems to be fixed. The news, politics, sports. quote:Welcome to South Canada, eh..... quote:Judge Emmitt Sullivan? Or one of his butt buddies? quote:I have been referring to it lately as the USSA, Un-United Socialist States of Amerika. Standard calls for revolution quote:The communists have taken control. quote:The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it’s natural manure. quote:the way I see it, we are down to our last two boxes. We are almost at the end of the ballot box journey. But I have not given up hope. we will have to wait and see quote:Same as every other state. I think reality has begun to seep in at freep. Lord help me, compared to thedonald freep is downright lucid: quote:It’s Monday.................... quote:Bring it to the Supreme Court. How anyone can look at Powell and see some sort of legal supergenius is beyond me quote:I would like to know the court’s REASONING for the dismissal. quote:Judge said it needed to go to state court... It was total BS. Sidney was great at hearing. The real Kraken was the friends we made along the way! quote:Who is the Kraken? We the people! Some freepers aren't fans of Wood and Powell. Others.. disagree quote:Lin Wood is a treasonous fraud. He’s a sociopath nut job, with a god complex. He is a registered Democrat, who supported, donated to, and voted for Barrack Hussein Obama in both 2008 and 2012. He has donated large sums of money to Democrats - including to Purdue’s opponent in 2014. quote:To: JME_FAN quote:To: MHGinTN quote:To: JME_FAN 4d chess? Get on my level. TIC TAC TOE motherfucker quote:Yes Moving toward the SCOTUS. It’s like tic tactoe —you play. x. —They play O. We eventually get to drawing a line.
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quote:Every time a lower court does the wrong thing, it brings us up the ladder. Don’t despair. Please someone explain to them that a legal appeal is not a "do-over" for your case
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Dec 7, 2020 21:58
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HappyHippo posted:I would like to know the court’s REASONING for the dismissal.
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Scratch Monkey posted:Please someone explain to them that a legal appeal is not a "do-over" for your case my favorite claim I see posted is "they are saving all their good evidence for the supreme court" I guess they get to introduce that evidence in that notorious part of the appeal trial where everyone introduces their new evidence
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I moved back to the US from Canada in summer 2016 soquote:Welcome to South Canada, eh..... All I can say is, oh thank god the nightmare is over
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Honestly it seems Freep is slightly more attached to reality than thedonald at this point
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Dec 7, 2020 23:07
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Alctel posted:Honestly it seems Freep is slightly more attached to reality than thedonald at this point Freep has been doing this cycle for decades. Its warm, fuzzy, familiar. A lot of the donald is 20 somethings who this is their first election they lost.
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Alctel posted:Honestly it seems Freep is slightly more attached to reality than thedonald at this point They really are. Thedonald is too delusional to be fun at this point: they just immediately memory hole every single lost case and become increasingly convinced that Alito will save them.
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Dec 8, 2020 01:23
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RagnarokAngel posted:Freep has been doing this cycle for decades. Its warm, fuzzy, familiar. A lot of the donald is 20 somethings who this is their first election they lost. A lot more are 35+ but this was still the first time they paid attention to politics besides "Feminists are gonna take away your waifus"
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A coworker, who I'm 99% sure is a member of "the donald" based on his favorite conspiracy theories, went to a bar talked poo poo and got his rear end kicked. He's been too ashamed to turn his camera on for ~2 weeks now. This is exactly how I imagine all of the supposed uprisings would play out.
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Dec 8, 2020 01:54
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Old Kentucky Shark posted:They really are. Thedonald is too delusional to be fun at this point: they just immediately memory hole every single lost case and become increasingly convinced that Alito will save them. My "classical liberal" cousin tried recommending thedonald as a place that would help people understand the truth about the election. When I pushed back, he told me "There is a culture there of certainly wanting good outcomes for Trump, but also of self policing against info that’s unverified/false." Sure, yeah, throwing stuff in the memory hole is one way of self-policing, I guess.
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I know Freep likely hates my Uncle Fester-looking Governor, Larry Hogan, but how much do they hate him? Maryland's Larry Hogan releases video calling for change within GOP I'd ask "let's start what?" but I think I can guess. quote:Lets start with him. I like how worst case scenario for a Freep is Republicans and Democrats working together productively. quote:These clowns JUST DON’T GET IT. I mean here you have Trump who is the most popular Republican President of all time, who is showing Republicans how to win and how to fight back, has energized grassroots conservatives like no GOP President before (even surpassing Reagan and Coolidge, IMO) and then this mouth-breathing mofo continues to peddle this fake, idyllic village of D.C. where Republicans and Democrats roll up their sleeves and quietly solve the nation’s problems. I am not holding my nose for another squish Republican ever again when Trump leaves office. This is probably accurate tbf. quote:Hogan’s Zeroes, as in the percentage of the primary vote he’ll get. Trump remodeling the GOP on a notorious pyramid scheme would be very on brand. quote:The GOP is useless at the federal level...
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Anubis posted:A coworker, who I'm 99% sure is a member of "the donald" based on his favorite conspiracy theories, went to a bar talked poo poo and got his rear end kicked. He's been too ashamed to turn his camera on for ~2 weeks now. This is exactly how I imagine all of the supposed uprisings would play out. Personally I’m not really worried about an organized uprising, but I think it’s stupid to write these people off. Every rear end in a top hat who’s determined, desperate, and nihilistic enough to make a move can potentially kill people. Potentially dozens. And you don’t need to be competent or brave to fire one magazine into a crowd. They’re not going to get the war they want but one good person lost to a nihilistic nazi is too much, so we should remain vigilant.
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Electric Phantasm posted:Who doesn't want to be left alone with their dogs, cheap wine, and their vibrator? Sounds like a untapped market. Sneeds Pet Food, Alcohol and Sex Toys
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When people establish “relationships” using software, you will run into all sorts of people. I would think if your not careful, some of those people will have “extreme” views.
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quote:I mean here you have Trump who is the most popular Republican President of all time, who is showing Republicans how to win and how to fight back, has energized grassroots conservatives like no GOP President before (even surpassing Reagan and Coolidge, IMO) Ah yes, showing Republicans how to fight back, by whining and yelling on Twitter. Also as much as I hate Reagan the guy is leagues better than Trump for energizing support, that 1984 election map is absolute insanity, Trump could never hope to pull that off.
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Twelve by Pies posted:Ah yes, showing Republicans how to fight back, by whining and yelling on Twitter. Also as much as I hate Reagan the guy is leagues better than Trump for energizing support, that 1984 election map is absolute insanity, Trump could never hope to pull that off. This is true, but some of that is recent demographics, i.e., the "Big Sort." In 1984, there were more Republicans in blue states and more Democrats in red states than there are now. California and Illinois and Vermont had Republican Governors, most southern states (including Texas) had Democratic Governors, etc. States switched back and forth in their choices for President, and more states were "swing states." Over time, liberals and leftists, especially young educated ones, have moved more and more into urbanized, more expensive states on the coasts. Chuds and retirees (who tend to be chuds) have migrated into more rural, less expensive states in the midwest and south. Now the election is determined by just a few swing states. Right now you could be the most effective politician of all time and you might still not pull more than 350 electoral votes. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-10-25/how-the-big-sort-is-driving-political-polarization predicto fucked around with this message at 07:24 on Dec 8, 2020 |
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Reagan was Trump if he was molded by 50s television rather than reality TV and tabloids. His personality didn't turn off all the squeamish suburban voters who flipped on Trump because of how rude he is. That and his administration was filled with a higher level of grifter, the guys who built the rightwing media machine, instead of suspiciously moist freaks like Rudy. Steve Bannon was the closest Trump world ever got to the Reagan calibre of talent, and they fired him.
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Freepers are slowly resigned to losing and bitching and threatening civil wars. The real bumper crop of MAGA tears and loss of grip on reality is brewing in the Donald.win. Their diehard echo chamber has not braced a very delusional cult community for anything of what’s coming in total failure.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Personally I’m not really worried about an organized uprising, but I think it’s stupid to write these people off. Every rear end in a top hat who’s determined, desperate, and nihilistic enough to make a move can potentially kill people. Potentially dozens. And you don’t need to be competent or brave to fire one magazine into a crowd. They’re not going to get the war they want but one good person lost to a nihilistic nazi is too much, so we should remain vigilant. So what do you suggest doing about it? If you genuinely think this is an issue then I figure you must have a plan right?
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RagnarokAngel posted:So what do you suggest doing about it? If you genuinely think this is an issue then I figure you must have a plan right? We've gotta Jade Helm them at abandoned Walmarts for real this time
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RagnarokAngel posted:So what do you suggest doing about it? If you genuinely think this is an issue then I figure you must have a plan right? This is a weird opinion. Just because someone has some concern, it doesn't mean that they personally plan to prevent it, or see a chance to do so. For example, I am concerned that people close to me die at some point.
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cant cook creole bream posted:This is a weird opinion. Just because someone has some concern, it doesn't mean that they personally plan to prevent it, or see a chance to do so. For example, I am concerned that people close to me die at some point. That's not what I mean. I mean that I would hope one would assume any one of us would be smart enough to realize any random person could pop off at any time and if they were in a position to do so, would do something about it. Any person mewling about "guys this is really scary you guys" isn't saying anything new or interesting, it's moralizing that while they don't intend to take any more steps than you, they're taking this seriously.
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I guess I’ll stop caring about climate change because I have no idea how to fix it. That’s a weight off my mind.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:I guess I’ll stop caring about climate change because I have no idea how to fix it. That’s a weight off my mind. Your assumption is that im saying you need to solve the problem in one great act for it to count. Im not. Climate change is something you can do small things about and i assume you do every day. You probably even go above and beyond and donate to causes or involve yourself in organizations working to combat it. These are real things you do every day that help, i do acknowledge that we can do small things every day that might not save the world but at least move toward the objective. What are you doing about fringe right wingers? That was my initial question. RagnarokAngel fucked around with this message at 14:38 on Dec 8, 2020 |
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Fruity Rudy posted:Freepers are slowly resigned to losing and bitching and threatening civil wars. The real bumper crop of MAGA tears and loss of grip on reality is brewing in the Donald.win. Their diehard echo chamber has not braced a very delusional cult community for anything of what’s coming in total failure. Is there a thread for them as well?
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RagnarokAngel posted:That's not what I mean. I mean that I would hope one would assume any one of us would be smart enough to realize any random person could pop off at any time and if they were in a position to do so, would do something about it. I wouldn’t consider any of this sentiment “new or interesting” either. What exactly are you trying to accomplish here? It reads like a weird reflexive attempt to police what someone else is allowed to express concern about, and I can’t figure out what the point is.
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raminasi posted:I wouldn’t consider any of this sentiment “new or interesting” either. What exactly are you trying to accomplish here? It reads like a weird reflexive attempt to police what someone else is allowed to express concern about, and I can’t figure out what the point is. Asking them what their advice is for dealing with the problem?
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RagnarokAngel posted:Asking them what their advice is for dealing with the problem? Why do you presume that such advise has to exist?
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cant cook creole bream posted:Why do you presume that such advise has to exist? It doesn't have to, just wondering if they had any.
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RagnarokAngel posted:It doesn't have to, just wondering if they had any. This initial statement sounded weirdly aggressive, though. RagnarokAngel posted:So what do you suggest doing about it? If you genuinely think this is an issue then I figure you must have a plan right?
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RagnarokAngel posted:It doesn't have to, just wondering if they had any. Explore the solution space: - Massive firearm law reform and gun buyback program I don't know, seems unlikely - Wear body armor everywhere - Be the good person with a gun that stops a bad person with a gun - Avoid crowds for the foreseeable future There's a pandemic on for the foreseeable future, so now you have _two_ reasons to not go out - Just live your life; the risk of being shot by a right wing nutjob at the Piggly Wiggly is still significantly less than your risk of getting into a fatal car accident on the way there
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Trump campaign lawyer Jenna Ellis has tested positive for COVID-19: Report So so close quote:To: SeekAndFind Too close! Running away! quote:To: VAFreedom
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Seventyfour posted:To: SeekAndFind You could probably write a research paper on self delusion on this one post alone.
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