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Dawgstar posted:Where has he spoken about it? Skwirl posted:Here's the article Tini Howard was talking about. If people are not into clicking links and/or reading articles Jonathan Hickman posted:Well, part of the problem with talking about this stuff publicly–and this is one of the (minor) reasons that I just don’t do it much anymore–is because it really doesn’t serve anyone to show how the sausage is made.
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Come to think of it, are there any popular characters that were created because the writer wasn't allowed to use a planned character at the last minute over at Marvel? I know that's how DC got two separate carbon copies on Constantine running around. X-Men wanted to use, I believe, the Daredevil villian The Owl. They couldn't, so Mr Sinister was invented instead.
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# ? Dec 8, 2020 04:37 |
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IUG posted:X-Men wanted to use, I believe, the Daredevil villian The Owl. They couldn't, so Mr Sinister was invented instead.
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# ? Dec 8, 2020 04:45 |
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Edge & Christian posted:Bob Layton was planning on using Daredevil villain The Owl in X-Factor and then left the book before revealing the Owl and Louise Simonson created Apocalypse rather than follow through on a Mysterious Villain in the Shadows reveal she was not interested in doing. who can blame her for not wanting to use the Owl, really
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# ? Dec 8, 2020 05:40 |
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Edge & Christian posted:It's part of the interview linked several posts back yeah, I mean it's bizarre that Marvel editorial would greenlight this retcon only a few months after the conclusion of a miniseries whose entire point was that Franklin was a mutant and would always have a home on Krakoa, and I can't read Hickman's mind, but I don't see how anything in that quote is bashing Slott anyway, I'm disappointed that the Moira book that was teased last year no longer seems to be happening. from what Hickman says, I'd infer that plans to reveal more of her backstory just got folded into other upcoming storylines/projects and that no longer left a place for a series focused on her in particular, but we'll see
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# ? Dec 8, 2020 05:54 |
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Barry Convex posted:yeah, I mean it's bizarre that Marvel editorial would greenlight this retcon only a few months after the conclusion of a miniseries whose entire point was that Franklin was a mutant and would always have a home on Krakoa, and I can't read Hickman's mind, but I don't see how anything in that quote is bashing Slott It's easy to read a subtext of gently caress you gently caress you gently caress you Slott into it because that's where we're all coming from. But I agree, it reads to me more like "well, my grand plans got hosed with before, remember? I dealt then and I'll deal now, don't worry".
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# ? Dec 8, 2020 20:28 |
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it's a terrible decision but it is slott's decision to make. franklin richards is a ff character.
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# ? Dec 8, 2020 22:18 |
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:it's a terrible decision but it is slott's decision to make. franklin richards is a ff character. Except for the miniseries from a few months ago where they determined he was a Krakoan. That's why even Hickman's kind-of diplomatic statements don't ring true because this isn't just something that's messing up future plans. It made a whole mini-series loving pointless! It broke stories published just a couple months ago! And it was a pretty high-profile thing! So even beyond the idea that Franklin was explicitly set up as one of the few Omega mutants, something that seemed a pretty important thing defined in HoXPoX and likely tied to his future plans- the decision to allow this is breaking comics that people recently bought!
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# ? Dec 8, 2020 23:00 |
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Gwenpool can have stolen his xgene
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# ? Dec 9, 2020 03:51 |
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danbanana posted:Except for the miniseries from a few months ago where they determined he was a Krakoan. I can’t speak to how Hickman “really” feels or anything like that but yeah I completely agree with you, just a complete rear end showing move from Slott. He just straight up sucks. I’m sure he’s a wonderful human but as a writer he is Not Good. But he must have a lot of pull at Marvel or his stuff sells well (or he has blackmail info lol) cause he gets away with it. It’s baffling to me but what can ya do.
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# ? Dec 9, 2020 03:56 |
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I think Slott is just friends with his editors and in terms of being allowed to do horrible poo poo because a couple higher-ups like you, Slott doesn't even come close to cracking the top 20. As for his stuff selling well, I think his She-Hulk and Silver Surfer did well, everything else had a built in audience. I don't know how much credit for sales you can give the writer when it's something like a an issue of Spider-Man with Obama on the cover.
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# ? Dec 9, 2020 04:35 |
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Skwirl posted:As for his stuff selling well, I think his She-Hulk and Silver Surfer did well, everything else had a built in audience. I don't know how much credit for sales you can give the writer when it's something like a an issue of Spider-Man with Obama on the cover.
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# ? Dec 9, 2020 06:00 |
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Plus, Savage Dragon did have an Obama cover before that. And that Larsen guy drew Spider-Man in the 90s coincidentally.
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# ? Dec 9, 2020 17:50 |
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sword has an absolutely phenomenal cast but the first chapter was pretty much all introductions and setup. still, it's nice that frenzy is getting some respect and that cortez is getting none at all.
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# ? Dec 9, 2020 19:00 |
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Magneto had some amazing facial expressions in Sword as well.
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# ? Dec 9, 2020 19:01 |
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I like Frenzy actually being tall again.
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# ? Dec 9, 2020 19:30 |
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Vindicator posted:I like Frenzy actually being tall again. Wasn't Frenzy technically an X-Man for a couple of issues and then vanished like she was sucked into the Siege Perilous?
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# ? Dec 9, 2020 21:51 |
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She was! Carey had her in Legacy for a fair bit, particularly after Age of X, where she happened to be in a relationship with Scott, and upon the world being restored, wanted to recapture that feeling of being a hero. That lasted up until about Avengers vs X-Men, and then she kind of fell into appearances in the background of crowd scenes.
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# ? Dec 9, 2020 22:33 |
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she was briefly in one of the inhuman books, where she wanted to help but was hindered by being a wanted criminal as though that really stopped anyone before. it was real dumb because it relied on her playing the public role of a mutant terrorist so that the inhumans could continue to not do anything about the death clouds.
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# ? Dec 9, 2020 22:59 |
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Marauders, gently caress yeah.
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# ? Dec 9, 2020 22:59 |
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Good week again. SWORD was lovely, and dunking on Cortez like that is a stroke of brilliance. However, I have no idea what that black thing they pulled out of the teleportation effort is supposed to be. A cosmic cube? What? Also, Skwirl posted:Marauders, gently caress yeah.
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# ? Dec 9, 2020 23:01 |
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SWORD owns. Glad they got Ewing for this. Marauders also good.
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# ? Dec 9, 2020 23:07 |
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the thingy is probably something new, but its origin sure is portentous enough. the white hot room is where phoenixes live.
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# ? Dec 9, 2020 23:09 |
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Skwirl posted:Marauders, gently caress yeah. Oh, hi Glob!
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# ? Dec 9, 2020 23:12 |
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I like how all of these absolutely, skin crawlingly evil X-villains have grown and been redeemed in various way and Sebastian Shaw is exactly the same piece of poo poo he was in X-Men #129.
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# ? Dec 9, 2020 23:12 |
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:the white hot room is where phoenixes live. Oh yeah! I knew that name was familiar, but I couldn't place it. Man, what an odd thing to bring back from that final Grant Morrison story. But then again, Ewing just brought back Peepers! Peepers! And Magneto and him have this most nonchalant old men talk and it's just superb. Saoshyant fucked around with this message at 23:40 on Dec 9, 2020 |
# ? Dec 9, 2020 23:38 |
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Y'know, I feel like "The Six" is kind of a misnomer when the actual process involves something like ten or eleven people. Magneto's reaction to the Wanda name drop is really interesting. Is this where this...character thread, I guess?...will finally be addressed?
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# ? Dec 10, 2020 00:03 |
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:the thingy is probably something new, but its origin sure is portentous enough. the white hot room is where phoenixes live. I’m also assuming the spoilered section head is Doctor Nemesis but I don’t know why it would be spoilered.
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# ? Dec 10, 2020 01:20 |
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doctor nemesis does have augmented eyes with some of the same functionality as peeper (i had to look him up), but that's not his mutant power. in theory he could give anyone similar eyes.
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# ? Dec 10, 2020 01:48 |
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S.W.O.R.D. and GotG were both tons of fun, Ewing has so much range it's unbelievable. I really like the way he writes Magneto-- very flawed, very grounded, but also with a really understated dignity that sells his gravity better than more bombastic portrayals do.
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# ? Dec 10, 2020 01:55 |
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BrianWilly posted:
I bet they make her and Quicksilver a mutant again. And having so many people loving hate her is part of that redemptive arc.
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# ? Dec 10, 2020 01:55 |
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Echoing what everyone said, SWORD was phenomenal. I'm super excited to see Ewing continue to build his space stuff, especially with what went on in GotG. The magic triangle might be a continuation of something introduced in Ewing's Ultimates. I also like the small implication at the end that Doom is spying on Krakoa.
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# ? Dec 10, 2020 02:48 |
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Skwirl posted:I bet they make her and Quicksilver a mutant again. And having so many people loving hate her is part of that redemptive arc. I doubt it’s really “canon” but the ending page of one of the Strange Academy issues showed her school email inbox with a message from Magneto asking to catch up, too.
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# ? Dec 10, 2020 02:49 |
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I hope the fact that Prodigy is (was?) technically dating space royalty gets brought up in X-Factor.
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# ? Dec 10, 2020 03:50 |
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BrianWilly posted:I hope the fact that Prodigy is (was?) technically dating space royalty gets brought up in X-Factor. Que? He kissed one of them when they were about to die (genuinely can't remember if it was Hulking or Wiccan) and they said "no thank you." That's not dating, that's called being a disasterbi.
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# ? Dec 10, 2020 03:53 |
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S.W.O.R.D. was amazing as a set-up. Dig the Peak being set up as a literal Sword of Damocles hanging over Krakoa. It was interesting that only Cortez's back-up was redacted. I'm kinda hoping it turns out to be Michael Nowlan.
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# ? Dec 10, 2020 05:42 |
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PoptartsNinja posted:It was interesting that only Cortez's back-up was redacted. I'm kinda hoping it turns out to be Michael Nowlan. I don't know who that is.
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# ? Dec 10, 2020 05:46 |
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He's basically Fabian Cortez, but his powers are addictive. He's also got a history with Frenzy.
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# ? Dec 10, 2020 05:51 |
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Skwirl posted:I don't know who that is. Real Name: Michael Nowlan Michael Nowlan and his wife Susan were both heroin addicts before he was drafted into the Vietnam Conflict in his late teens. His mutant ability manifested itself during the war, but it was not until his detoxification in a military drug rehabilitation center that they became fully apparent. Upon meeting another former soldier, the man who would become Timeshadow, his power caused the man's temporal duplication power to surface. Following this event, word spread about his ability to enhance mutant energies, and other mutants began to seek him out. Mutants became hooked on the power and used whatever means they could to force him to enhance their powers. Nowlan found that the only way to stop this was to stay narcotized on heroin, which retarded the energy transfer. However, staying drugged caused him to lose his job, his health, and his wife, who had cleaned up her act after the war and gotten a decent job. At some point, Nowlan was discovered by and became a pawn of the mutant known as Apocalypse. Apocalypse designed a machine to feed Nowlan's addiction, as well as to reverse it as needed to utilize his power. Nowlan's power helped to enhance the abilities of his fellow field agents at the time, the Alliance of Evil. Nowlan eventually escaped from Apocalypse and was pursued by the Alliance. He sought the aid of his ex-wife, Susan, who refused to get involved with his drug addiction or his mutant antagonists. Susan contacted the group X-Factor, who were at the time posing as mutant-hunters to allow themselves to locate and help mutants. Susan attempted to flee town, but was captured by the Alliance, who sought to use her to locate Michael and force him to help them. X-Factor located Nowlan and helped him recover from a near overdose. They made plans to help him, but the Alliance arrived and threatened Susan if he refused to enhance them. He complied, allowing them to easily overpower X-Factor and escape with both Michael and Susan back to Apocalypse's base. Apocalypse returned Nowlan to his machine, where he enhanced the Alliance's powers, allowing them to again overpower X-Factor when they arrived. Susan attempted to flee the chaos, but was killed by a blast from Stinger. Enraged, Michael drew all of the energy back into himself, allowing X-Factor to triumph at the cost of his own life. His body was unable to contain all of the additional energy and he died, feeling the world was better off without him. Powers Power Amplification: Nowlan radiated pulses of energy that supercharged superhuman abilities or drove them out of their owner's control. This energy was highly addictive. Mouse over the redacted text to read spoiler text.
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PoptartsNinja posted:He's basically Fabian Cortez, but his powers are addictive. He's also got a history with Frenzy. I thought Fabian Cortez' powers were addictive?
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