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peanut- posted:Just cost sadly, it's not economic to do tagging below the pallet level. The single digit margin on most food can't absorb the price of RFID tags. Generally most stores I know have a rule of don't security tag anything less than £5 because otherwise it costs more for the tags than it prevents in theft.
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stev posted:I did that in Co-Op and hated it. I'm conditioned to feel like a criminal if I can't physically show a person/machine that I haven't got anything in my bag that I haven't paid it. I did that for a while at Tesco and then they banned me from doing it for no obvious reason (like, pick up the handset and it told me to phone Tesco or something)  I'm often buying booze so someone's going to come over anyway so I might as well do it the normal way.
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When I was briefly homeless I'd go into Sainsbury as soon as it opened every morning, have a wash in the men's room, then just brazenly fill my pockets with fruit & give the security guy a friendly hello on the way out I think people just aren't paid enough to give a poo poo about shoplifters
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They were once throwing lots of bread out in Tesco so I started to eat it and they wrestled the bread out of my hands and threw me out of the shop. I can't help but feel if I was sober at the time that my eating of the bread would have gone much better.
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Oh yeah technically I handle coins every time I go to ASDA for to like get the shopping trolley out with a pound and everything am I going to get the COVIDs 
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TACD posted:I remember being promised that all groceries were going to have RFID chips embedded in the packaging so we could walk directly out of the store and have our shopping automagically scanned and charged. Whatever happened to that? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SV5DqxgW764 Amazon are currently operating 27 "Go" convenience stores (with 10-30 coming to the UK "soon") that use a combination of RFID tags and a metric fuckton of cameras to do checkoutless-commerce. They're now testing a larger variant that uses baskets/trollies for your weekly shop with an eye to selling the tech to other store operators (Microsoft and Walmart have a partnership to do the same thing). Judging by some YouTube videos featuring intolerable 'influencers' they might be quite easy to steal from - assuming your ok with getting permabanned from Amazon. Personally I wouldn't risk it. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Go E; I guess it's worth mentioning these shops sell almost exclusively own-brand/white label goods which I guess gives them more control over margins than some other stores (beyond just being Amazon in general) blunt fucked around with this message at 15:04 on Dec 8, 2020 |
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Soricidus posted:you need better buses mate, can’t think when i last paid a bus fare with anything that wasn’t contactless Cash payments were basically gone on London buses at the beginning of the year, covid killed them off for good. It's so ridiculous how far ahead of the rest of the country TfL is, and yet nationalising public transport beyond The Trains doesn't ever seem to get even a mention. I think there was some vague noises in the 2019 Labour manifesto about improving bus services, but even that seemed a bit half-hearted. I know technically London public transport is one big PPP, but you'd think if anything that would get the neolibs behind it because it's about the only one in the history of the wretched system that's worked. Maybe it's because all of the bits that actually made money for the private seconter were also all the worst bits (tube track and rolling stock maintenance, Overground rollout) and TfL - under Boris Johnson! - in-housed them all, and the bits still in private hands - mostly the buses - are so heavily regulated that "innovations" are completely impossible so the system mostly just works. Not that it's perfect, by any means (Crossrail is going for the Brandenburg Airport record, for a start) but it's closer to working than just about anything in this poo poo country. Do Manchester, Liverpool et. al. even have the *option* of a TfL-like system? I'm guessing probably not because a lot of the big capex projects were started with central Government funding when Johnson was mayor and the Tories felt like they had a chance of actually turning London blue, or at least purple (notably the central Government subsidies stopped in 2016, and previously-agreed large capex projects (Crossrail 2, Bakerloo Line extension, Overground takeover of London Bridge commuter lines) all suddenly got austeritied for... some reason. I'm guessing it's theoretically possible under a future Labour government but the shower of shits at the top of the party definitely won't want to risk making King Across The Water Andy Burnham look good.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Cash payments were basically gone on London buses at the beginning of the year, covid killed them off for good. They've been cashless for years now haven't they? Fun London Bus Driver fact: There is only 2 types: Decent ones who'll let you off on things, and absolute miseryguts, like the one who wanted me to get off last Thursday as (unknowingly) my Oyster didn't have enough cash on it. Yeah chill mate til I get my bankcard out.
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Vigil for Virgil posted:Even after this pandemic is over can we keep masks madatory on public transport? Especially during Winter they're mandatory now, people still don't wear them. buses are full of people spraying away and blasting boogers and disease everywhere
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As a retail puppet I used to stop shoplifters until I got my leg snapped in three places. If someone asks me why I don't try to stop them I just show them the scar on my leg 
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Jose posted:lol have you ever actually been in a supermarket? Yes I have.
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kecske posted:they're mandatory now, people still don't wear them. buses are full of people spraying away and blasting boogers and disease everywhere I bet as it gets colder then people will realise the benefits of having face coverings without the hassle of a full scarf. I reckon we'll see an increase from this winter onwards.
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Vigil for Virgil posted:Even after this pandemic is over can we keep masks madatory on public transport? Especially during Winter Not until they stop making my glasses steam up so I can't see anything.
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Songbearer posted:As a retail puppet I used to stop shoplifters until I got my leg snapped in three places. If someone asks me why I don't try to stop them I just show them the scar on my leg Sounds horrible, in a sane world he would have run off and smashed in the CEO of Sainsburys or whatever
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forkboy84 posted:Not until they stop making my glasses steam up so I can't see anything. Put a band aid on the bridge of your nose. Or for a more straightforward approach, get the kind of KN95s I have that have a lil bit of foam at the bridge of your nose. Comfier and no steaming in my experience
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Hong Kong public transport is my only real experience of "Big City" public transport and it's amazing how different it is in comparison to the UK. Buses are on time and cheap and you can pay contactless everywhere, and even though there's like 5 different bus companies they all use the same contactless money system (and you can use it in shops or at vending machines or basically anywhere it's almost a debit card).
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So early signs that the UK is prepared to backdown to reach a Brexit deal. https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-u...otocol-12155176 Now even if this had always been the plan as part of a negotiation tactic to "get a better deal" it was still a stupid plan as the UK will never be trusted again when it comes to legal obligations. Reputations, they take a lifetime to build, a minute to destroy as they taught me in Ethics class. Now even if the Government is prepared to make a deal they still might have left it to late to get it all sorted.
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Gets worse: https://www.thejc.com/comment/opinion/by-adopting-ihra-universities-would-show-leadership-on-tackling-antisemitism-1.509413 quote:... Article author Kate Green is the Shadow Education secretary. Can you imagine the outcry if universities were banned from discussing human rights outrages committed in any other country? This constant framing of being anti the actions of the govt of the state of Israel as being synonymous with being anti Jewish is beyond a joke. Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 16:06 on Dec 8, 2020 |
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Goldskull posted:They've been cashless for years now haven't they? Some routes went cashless in... 2012, I think? Around then. They expanded from the original "Terminate at Oxford Street or Trafalgar Square" as they rolled out ticket vending machines (the original justification was to reduce dwell time in the West End), but it was still less than half of the total routes - basically only the ones that went into Zone 1 - by the time they started accepting contactless in 2014, which is when they "officially" went cashless. However most operators would still accept cash fares (no change given) right up to this year - it was notable that removing the cash tray was part of the half-arsed anti-coronavirus adaptations they made when bus drivers had a worse covid death rate than any other profession.
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Dead Goon posted:So you can gently caress about scanning and bagging things while other people are trying to get stuff from the shelves you're stood in front of? Eh? The process of taking something off the shelf, scanning it and placing it in the bag takes literally seconds, and then you move on.
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If in doubt ask my transport connect: "TfL ditched all cash fares on services they provide (or contract for) in July 2014. Trams went cashless in 2018. If a driver or operator was taking cash, then they were doing so in contravention of their contractual rules and the Driver rules as laid out in the Big Red Book." I mean it doesn't really matter in the greater scheme but I can't remember anyone taking cash for years, I thought you might've been on about like Zone 6 granny buses. or the ones in your area are corrupt.
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"Err yeah we definitely still take cash fares. No change though." is a pretty good scam for a bus driver tbf
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lmao what the gently caress even is 2020quote:Has the State of Israel made contact with aliens?
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0 chance trump wouldn't have said something if it was true they're all such massive, massive cunts https://uk.reuters.com/article/britain-ineos/billionaire-ratcliffes-ineos-drops-wales-for-france-to-build-new-car-idINS8N2E3088
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The Question IRL posted:So early signs that the UK is prepared to backdown to reach a Brexit deal. So lovely of Boris to use my home as a bloody bargaining chip, at least with a sea border it might be easier to food in from the Republic. The fact that he even tried this as a tactic puts a big dent in the governments trustworthiness on future deals on anything at all.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:It's so ridiculous how far ahead of the rest of the country TfL is, and yet nationalising public transport beyond The Trains doesn't ever seem to get even a mention. I think there was some vague noises in the 2019 Labour manifesto about improving bus services, but even that seemed a bit half-hearted. The 2019 manifesto had a commitment to nationalise the entire bus network and introduce thousands of new routes.
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Goldskull posted:If in doubt ask my transport connect: Lol weirdly I got this info from my transport contact. I personally didn't remember anyone using cash on a bus in ages, but he was very insistent that they were still taking it as of this year. Given he works at West Ham garage I don't rule out that last possibility, but he might just be confused by the fact that the little tray (and the containers for the coins beneath it) were still there until they were taken out when they extended the screens around the driver.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Gets worse: I don’t think that the IHRA definition precludes discussion of Israeli human rights violations, does it?
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Yorkshire uses contactless for buses but Lancashire has yet to catch up. Lovely to catch town>city buses and needing tenner to pay when they've removed most of the nearby cash machines (and toilets and anything else that might be useful before a two hour bus journey)
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therattle posted:I don’t think that the IHRA definition precludes discussion of Israeli human rights violations, does it? no but the sun, the telegraph, the times etc do
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Lol weirdly I got this info from my transport contact. I personally didn't remember anyone using cash on a bus in ages, but he was very insistent that they were still taking it as of this year. Given he works at West Ham garage I don't rule out that last possibility, but he might just be confused by the fact that the little tray (and the containers for the coins beneath it) were still there until they were taken out when they extended the screens around the driver. I asked John Bull, of London Reconnections fame. He even sent me a pick of the relevant red book page. We came to the conclusion it probably does happen out in the sticks as 68yr old Beryl who's been using the same route for 40 years can't get her brains around Oyster and never will, so it's easier just to take her £1.50 and shove it in the depot charity box or somesuch.
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therattle posted:I don’t think that the IHRA definition precludes discussion of Israeli human rights violations, does it? It shouldn't do but it does. Everyone is poo poo scared to discuss human rights violations against Palestinians lest they be tarred as anti-semitic. (Note that the demand on universities in the article says that ALL the examples must be included.)
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Gets worse: Hardly anyone in the country cares about human rights anywhere I guess there's quite a lot who think theyr a Marxist plot
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Fudge News So the past week has been insane. Fudjit is closing out 2020 on its best month of trading yet. I am completely blown away by all of your generosity and appetite for delicious fudge.  My long awaited move has now been confirmed as happening on Friday; given the amount of things I have to do before then I’m afraid I will be closing sales as of midnight tonight. If you still want to buy fudge, hit up https://www.fudjit.co.uk before midnight! I still have some amount of dark chocolate, chilli-chocolate and jelly beans flavours left; everything else I’m happy to say is gone! If I may ramble for a few; it’s now almost exactly a year since my initial soft-launch on here. In that time trade has grown from an average of c£200 a month last December to over a grand this month. I’ve gone from cooking 10kg in one kilo batches and considering it exhausting to cooking 40+kg in 4kg batches with ease. I’ve gone from selling through direct engagement here and elsewhere (and of course maintaining the dreaded UKMT goons.xls in the process) to having a functioning sales website that seems to be working well (this was something I had a huge mental block over). In short, the cooking of fudge for me has gone from ‘potentially profitable side hustle’ to ‘actually able to make a living off’ in the course of a year. And in particular, a year of such horribleness and despair. Part of me feels guilty that I’ve achieved satisfaction and a measure of success when so many of us are struggling with the precariousness of life, the difficulties of furlough and so on. But another part says that if I, an autistic depressive who genuinely thought he would never be able to work again, can do this then holy hell there’s hope for all of us. And the only reason I’ve been able to make this work is down to the massive support and solidarity shown by the people posting here, in the discord and elsewhere who took a change on my sweet sweet goodies, showed faith in me to follow through (especially when so many other goon projects have crashed and burned) and then pimped out my wares to others. It’s a debt that I don’t think can ever really be repaid other than through the gratitude that fills me. More than anything else, you guys haven’t just helped me create a working business, but you’ve also helped me get some of my pride and self-respect back; helped me lift myself up when I thought I was too broken to ever stand on my own two feet again. I dunno what 2021 will bring, but I know it’ll be full of sweetness no matter how poo poo this rainy terf island gets. Because I’ll be making it.
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