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Edit - gently caress it, I'll do research like I used to instead of being lazy.
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I’ve got all my parts in tonight! Sadly I have a long shift early tomorrow so I probably won’t get started until then or the day after. Will post pics and probably dumb questions too.
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Dec 8, 2020 02:39
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Awesome! Looking forward to it. Take your time, don't panic, and have fun 
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Dec 8, 2020 02:47
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Kingnothing posted:Yeah hwmonitor is fine. You can also run nvidia stat overlay which will give you GPU and CPU temps with the most detailed setting. Ok, after more research into why my RTX 3070's display drivers keeps crashing—nvlddmkm, event ID 4101—it seems to be mostly in these two games (now with sensor logs):
The most consistent crashes are in Division 2, which usually lasts an hour or so before crashing. Big firefights, safe areas, and even menus, it's not picky. Does any of this seem to indicate a specific cause? Is this a new card driver issue I should wait out, a GPU RMA, or does some other hardware look at fault? At this point I'm kinda just feeling overwhelmed. 
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Dec 8, 2020 03:14
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From what I understand, the PC port of Valhalla is a buggy mess. Can't speak for Division 2.
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Dec 8, 2020 03:28
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Depressing Box posted:Ok, after more research into why my RTX 3070's display drivers keeps crashing—nvlddmkm, event ID 4101—it seems to be mostly in these two games (now with sensor logs): I’m not gonna comment much on the logs because I’m not familiar enough with reading those out, but unless it’s an error you have a giant power drop in the middle of the division 2 log for GPU and CPU. What’s your PSU situation? Are you running a split cable to the GPU? That being said, If it’s not consistent against all games I’d start software for troubleshooting. I’d probably full uninstall and reinstall those two games and verify latest uodates/drivers for windows, GPU, and all games. I’d make sure your BIOS is either on a stable or current rev. I’d consider testing additional games (newer stuff that’ll stress the system more).
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Dec 8, 2020 04:13
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Depressing Box posted:Ok, after more research into why my RTX 3070's display drivers keeps crashing—nvlddmkm, event ID 4101—it seems to be mostly in these two games (now with sensor logs): I’m in no way an expert, but I’m bored and going down the google blackhole on your issue, multiple people have reported dialing back their factory OC gpus to stock fixed the issue. https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/display-driver-nvlddmkm-stopped-responding-and-has-successfully-recovered.3471967/
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Dec 8, 2020 05:10
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aksuur posted:Edit - gently caress it, I'll do research like I used to instead of being lazy. The truth is right now most things people recommend are backordered for weeks. Even some popular cases, fans, and heatsinks are getting scalped. Microcenter has some deals on intel parts if you need a computer now. 9600k and 10600k aren't bad gamming parts and the 9900k is only $300. The gpu market is horrific.
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Dec 8, 2020 05:28
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FlamingLiberal posted:From what I understand, the PC port of Valhalla is a buggy mess. Can't speak for Division 2. That's definitely been on my mind, as mixed in with the driver crashes have been a few Valhalla-specific port bugs. Kingnothing posted:I’m not gonna comment much on the logs because I’m not familiar enough with reading those out, but unless it’s an error you have a giant power drop in the middle of the division 2 log for GPU and CPU. What’s your PSU situation? Are you running a split cable to the GPU? No split cable, two separate ones, and the PSU has generally been behaving. I'll definitely watch for any further correlating power drops, though. Kingnothing posted:That being said, If it’s not consistent against all games I’d start software for troubleshooting. I’d probably full uninstall and reinstall those two games and verify latest uodates/drivers for windows, GPU, and all games. I’d make sure your BIOS is either on a stable or current rev. I’d consider testing additional games (newer stuff that’ll stress the system more). Ah, I hadn't thought to check the BIOS, I should do that! And I'll check around for more ways to push the system. Would literal stress test benchmark software be a good idea? skipdogg posted:I’m in no way an expert, but I’m bored and going down the google blackhole on your issue, multiple people have reported dialing back their factory OC gpus to stock fixed the issue. Ooh, that's a good find. I'll look up how to underclock the card. Honestly, getting a factory OC card was never my goal, just getting one period.
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Dec 8, 2020 05:50
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Internet Explorer posted:Actually, I do have a question for the thread along these lines. I went with 2x 2 TB 970 Evo Pluses. I'd really like them to be one logical drive in Windows, because it would be nice for the wife not to have to worry about the two different drives thing. Just wanted to follow up with more info on this incase anyone was curious. It doesn't look like you can span two dynamic disks with when one has your OS on it. I think "Boot" is the specific flag Windows looks for on the drive to disallow it. So I guess two drives it is. Also, god drat this computer is fast.
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Dec 8, 2020 06:19
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Dec 8, 2020 11:57
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SpaceSDoorGunner posted:
id say quit your job but *gestures at the cost of pc parts* I am WFH and definitely installed my 5600x and Accelero cooler on during "work hours"
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Dec 8, 2020 14:24
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Finally got a rtx 3060ti for a reasonable price ($400). Thanks to the kind goon who put me onto the discord links they really helped.
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Dec 8, 2020 17:05
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I bought all the parts for my new build yesterday, but noticed the Ryzen 5 3600 on my parts list was slightly more expensive ($335) than a Ryzen 7 3700Z ($329). Were both of these prices rip-offs?
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Dec 8, 2020 18:01
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Farecoal posted:I bought all the parts for my new build yesterday, but noticed the Ryzen 5 3600 on my parts list was slightly more expensive ($335) than a Ryzen 7 3700Z ($329). Were both of these prices rip-offs? The former an awful lot more than the latter, you done got shafted for that 3600
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Dec 8, 2020 18:04
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Farecoal posted:I bought all the parts for my new build yesterday, but noticed the Ryzen 5 3600 on my parts list was slightly more expensive ($335) than a Ryzen 7 3700Z ($329). Were both of these prices rip-offs? I bought my 3600 for $200 new, the MSRP
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Dec 8, 2020 18:09
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Barry Foster posted:The former an awful lot more than the latter, you done got shafted for that 3600 I ended up getting the 3700X instead, so I guess I overspent budget wise but got a better CPU for it's actual price?
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Dec 8, 2020 18:10
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Farecoal posted:I bought all the parts for my new build yesterday, but noticed the Ryzen 5 3600 on my parts list was slightly more expensive ($335) than a Ryzen 7 3700Z ($329). Were both of these prices rip-offs? Those prices are in-line with what is being seen: 5600X availability is also running out 3600 stocks... When they are within 10%-15% of the cost, I would recommend the 3700X over the 3600, and at the $330 price point, both are outclassed by the (unavilable) 5600X. Soooo, did you pay more than the thread thinks the 3600 is worth? Probably yes. Did you get ripped off? Maybe a little bit, but most-likely no... Farecoal posted:I ended up getting the 3700X instead, so I guess I overspent budget wise but got a better CPU for it's actual price? Ah, it's all moot anyways! The 3700X is an 8-core version of the chip that is in the new consoles, so you should be solid w/r/t mainstream gaming for the next 5-7 years...
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Dec 8, 2020 18:14
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Microcenter has bumped the 3600 to $249, they had it for $199. Yikes. If you have the money and want a system in hand it's hard to criticize almost any non-scalper choices at this point.
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Dec 8, 2020 18:37
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Farecoal posted:I ended up getting the 3700X instead, so I guess I overspent budget wise but got a better CPU for it's actual price? I mean those are current prices. They’re high as gently caress. To put it in perspective, the 5600x msrp (as in if you bought it from Best Buy) is $299. Availability is clearly a problem, but you could get a significantly better chip (generally 15% increase, check gamers nexus video for more specifics) for less. Getting a 5600 over a 3600 (or 3700) means you’re likely to get an extra year or more before needing an upgrade. You should consider your situation. If you need the build right now, then you have no choice, stick with what you bought. If you can wait (a few months, but maybe only a few weeks if you’re vigilant/on the discords and poo poo), that’s what I would do. Waiting maybe 2-3 months on the upgrade to get something that’ll perform quite a bit better and hold off on future upgrades is worth it to me, especially if I have a functional unit. But really only you know your situation and wants.
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Dec 8, 2020 18:48
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bus hustler posted:Microcenter has bumped the 3600 to $249, they had it for $199. Yikes. Well that sucks rear end. I feel like at that price I would either just wait for the 5600x to get back in stock there or swap to the i5 10600k which is also $250 (or poo poo could upgrade to the i9 9900k for an extra $50...). Also b450 boards are like really cheap which would have been nice.
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Dec 8, 2020 18:57
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If you have to buy now, I think the 3700X is a solid chip with good legs. I have one: it's very nice. But, all things being equal, I would wait for Zen3 if I could...
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Dec 8, 2020 19:43
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Wowporn posted:Well that sucks rear end. I feel like at that price I would either just wait for the 5600x to get back in stock there or swap to the i5 10600k which is also $250 (or poo poo could upgrade to the i9 9900k for an extra $50...). Also b450 boards are like really cheap which would have been nice. I'd wait for a 5600 too, but you might be waiting awhile. They sell out super quick whenever they go in stock, faster than basically anything else but 3080s, and have a late ship time. I have one "ordered" from Amazon and it's not shipping until late January. I've heard Amazon is moving up shipping times, but who knows by how much.
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Dec 8, 2020 20:32
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Why are prices so high now, anyway?
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Dec 8, 2020 21:14
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Farecoal posted:Why are prices so high now, anyway? No inventory. The new cards sell out instantly and the old stuff is just running out of stock and not being replaced.
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Dec 8, 2020 21:16
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:Seconding Noctua as the best, but honestly, if they are all going to be spinning at 700rpm anyways: everything is silent. I would just grab two 4-packs of cheap Cooler Master fans and be done with it. Anybody selling cheap multipacks of 140mm fans?
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Dec 8, 2020 21:18
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Farecoal posted:Why are prices so high now, anyway? While the pandemic has hurt a lot of jobs there’s still a ton of people whose income has barely been affected at all these people also tend to have technical jobs that involve computers. Normally things like holiday trips cut into how much people spend on hardware. Plane ticket money is now GPU money.
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Dec 8, 2020 21:28
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Triikan posted:Anybody selling cheap multipacks of 140mm fans? Phanteks makes an $8USD 140mm, and if it's going to be idling it's as quiet as anything else: I have one that came with my case. Beyond that, I think Rosewill has a $15 2-pack, and then you are up to getting Noctua's for $18 each so  spunkshui posted:While the pandemic has hurt a lot of jobs there’s still a ton of people whose income has barely been affected at all these people also tend to have technical jobs that involve computers. Also, COVID has hosed supply chains and that was after Trump took a swing at loving things up. Keep in mind that most of the rare earth elements and raw materials, to say nothing of the factories themselves, are all located in China or SE Asia. The trade wars were already putting a premium on these items, and now you have the plague to factor into it. Oh and a couple of the factories straight up caught fire. With all of this in mind, throw in that this hardware refresh is one of the biggest performance-per-dollar increases of the last twenty years and realize there was never a way for supply to keep up with demand... Hopefully the trade war stuff will ease off with the new administration (but unlikely with Trump planning a 2024 run, the PRC is pragmatic, if nothing else) and as the vaccine gets around the world the supply chains will unfuck themselves, but it is unlikely for stocks to stabilize in the next 3-6 months, from my view.
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Dec 8, 2020 22:12
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Oh lol even the Noctua 140mm silent fan I picked up as a backup is out of stock everywhere now. Half of my PCpartpicker list is blank
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Dec 8, 2020 22:15
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sean10mm posted:No inventory. The new cards sell out instantly and the old stuff is just running out of stock and not being replaced. spunkshui posted:Plane ticket money is now GPU money. True, but what about CPUs? Is it just the supply chains and it being the holidays?
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Dec 8, 2020 22:38
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Farecoal posted:True, but what about CPUs? Is it just the supply chains and it being the holidays? New hotness + supply chain issues + AMD putting out all it's products on the same process + those products including the new consoles.
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Dec 8, 2020 22:43
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:Hopefully the trade war stuff will ease off with the new administration (but unlikely with Trump planning a 2024 run, the PRC is pragmatic, if nothing else) and as the vaccine gets around the world the supply chains will unfuck themselves, but it is unlikely for stocks to stabilize in the next 3-6 months, from my view. America is not the centre of the universe, we're having exactly the same issues across EU countries.
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Dec 8, 2020 22:48
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Farecoal posted:True, but what about CPUs? Is it just the supply chains and it being the holidays? This unfortunately has little to do with holidays. There is nothing to do at home but play games and covid has gotten worse.
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Dec 8, 2020 22:50
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Farecoal posted:True, but what about CPUs? Is it just the supply chains and it being the holidays? People are also buying/building computers for work since a lot more people are working from home now.
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Dec 8, 2020 22:53
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I guess I bought my Noctua fans right before the run on them
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Dec 8, 2020 22:54
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oh boy I love waiting while my PSU, literally the last piece I need, sits in an OnTrac warehouse for a week, then gets delayed at the last minute to be delivered "tomorrow"! This is fun and definitely not agony inducing! edit: At least I don't have to worry about the GPU/CPU getting stolen in the mail (my precioussssss) edit2: Oh god it changed to today it's out for delivery oh god this is happening oh god oh god aaaaaaaaaaaa D1Sergo fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Dec 9, 2020 |
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Dec 8, 2020 23:27
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MaxxBot posted:People are also buying/building computers for work since a lot more people are working from home now. Yeah I never would have considered a new PC if not for the pandemic.
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Dec 8, 2020 23:29
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SpaceSDoorGunner posted:Yeah I never would have considered a new PC if not for the pandemic. I too have spent money I didn't need to on endlessly tinkering with my admittedly perfectly adequate machine. Actually sticking to lockdown rules leaves you with precious few things to really spend your discretionary funds on.
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Dec 8, 2020 23:45
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Barry Foster posted:I too have spent money I didn't need to on endlessly tinkering with my admittedly perfectly adequate machine. This is me. I started the pandemic with a half broken 450D case that had ancient fans running to knobs. My wife had a 40$ box filled with fans that sat on the floor. No rgb on either case. Then she got a job and the government gave us money so of course we had to do the right thing and stimulate the economy. New fans, new cases, new PSUs, I even have case lights now. You have no idea how hard the daily battle is to not drive to micro center and get a 9900k. The main thing stopping me is how depressing it already is to watch my 9600K @5ghz get bottlenecked by the 1070. The 144hz monitor is the real reason the GPU market is on fire. We got the 1070s when we only had 60hz displays.
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 Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM in stock at Newegg right now go go go https://www.newegg.com/noctua-nf-a12x25-pwm-case-fan/p/1YF-000T-000K7?Item=9SIAADY76X3131
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