Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Post
  • Reply
G1mby
Jun 8, 2014

OwlFancier posted:

Well obviously now I have to petition cumbria to include teesside.


The swiss approach, everyone is part of the army and the natural terrain advantage keeps everyone else out.

Also probably selling everyone else water and halberds.

And plutonium

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008


No London Commune, no deal :colbert:

Puntification
Nov 4, 2009

Black Orthodontromancy
The most British Magic

Fun Shoe

StarkingBarfish posted:

Dawn foster is one of the few good journos left in the UK. It's a pity 'reading the publication before sending the tweet' is the bar we have set:

https://twitter.com/DawnHFoster/status/1336369000834625538

It's kinda impressive how intellectually incurious our journalists are.

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012


Long live the glorious Peoples Republic of Sheppey

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Seriously you folks at the NIP have to come up with a better fleg than one that reminds me of my visit to the urologist.

mrpwase
Apr 21, 2010

I HAVE GREAT AVATAR IDEAS
For the Many, Not the Few


OwlFancier posted:

Seriously you folks at the NIP have to come up with a better fleg than one that reminds me of my visit to the urologist.

Take it up with Oswald.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

feedmegin posted:

No London Commune, no deal :colbert:
Every one of these maps gets one step closer to this poo poo that I made as a semi-joke over 5 years ago, so I imagine it's on its way.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
stick a rapper sword on it sorted

Mebh
May 10, 2010


Camrath. Make us more sweets of different varieties (hard toffee!!) and I will buy ALL OF THEM.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Make NIP banoffee.

Mebh
May 10, 2010


I can make banoffee. But I always eat my bananas early. Crispix can attest.

Lungboy
Aug 23, 2002

NEED SQUAT FORM HELP

Miftan posted:

That's James. Pretty sure he rarely if ever reads the thread now but he's our resident Smart Understander and overall excellent person. You can read more in this twitter thread he did: https://twitter.com/anarchonbury/status/1335867100901093378

This was the second episode I've listened to, and it's good stuff. My only niggle was during the discussion on inflation there was no mention of the shittiest bit of all (imo), that the multiple types of inflation aren't just used to give a more desriable result, but that they are actively used to gently caress people over. Public sector pay rises and pension calculations? Pin it to the lowest inflation metric (RPI). Income off interest on student loads or other repayments to the government? CPI for you!

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Mebh posted:

Camrath. Make us more sweets of different varieties (hard toffee!!) and I will buy ALL OF THEM.

if you can reverse-engineer the Werther's Originals recipe I'm there

therattle
Jul 24, 2007
Soiled Meat
Cardamom flavour. My wife will thank you.

Mebh
May 10, 2010


therattle posted:

Cardamom flavour. My wife will thank you.

This! Also bonfire toffee.

Vitamin P
Nov 19, 2013

Truth is game rigging is more difficult than it looks pls stay ded

Jose posted:

In case anyone still believes people's vote was anything other than getting rid of Corbyn

https://twitter.com/SolHughesWriter/status/1336264376655941632?s=19

Am constantly torn between Getting Mad at posters that were aggressively remainiac then but are 'yeah that was dumb lib poo poo nothin to do with me tho guv' now vs '2017 vs 2019 results was differing brexit stances' because that is 100% true and it is 100% gonna get lied about to pretend 'yeah the great british public just got wise to those wiley lefty lies, centrism 4eva', ultimately even if people were hoodwinked into second ref dogshit at the time if they now recognise it was a loving op then cool.

That article is broadly really good but that list of Directors is actually incredible, it's like a meme list of the hypothetical worst lib poo poo imaginable but its actually real. If you swapped Carberry for Rake it would legit be a standup bit it's punchline building on punchline.

quote:

Who Are Open Britain?

While Open Britain are a major force behind the "People’s Vote" campaign, they do not list their directors or leadership on their website. But by law, they must list their directors on the Companies House Website. According to Companies House, their current directors are:

Lord Mandelson

Joe Carberry – A former “New Labour” adviser who is now head of PR for Deliveroo.

Will Straw – Son of former Labour Foreign Secretary Jack Straw.

Roland Rudd – Founder of City PR firm Finsbury. Brother of Work & Pensions secretary Amber Rudd.

Daniel Gieve – Chief of Staff of corporate PR firm Finsbury, Gieve is the son of a former deputy governor of the Bank of England.

Sir Mike Rake – Former Chairman of telecoms firm BT and former European Chairman of accountants KPMG.

Richard Reed – Founder of Innocent Drinks, which he later sold to Coca Cola. Donated to both the Lib Dems and Chuka Umunna.

James McGrory – Formerly Nick Clegg’s chief spin doctor from 2013-5, during the Tory-Lib Dem coalition.

Trevor Phillips – Former chairman of the Equality and Human Rights Commission.

June Sarpong – Broadcaster.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Vitamin P posted:

Am constantly torn between Getting Mad at posters that were aggressively remainiac then but are 'yeah that was dumb lib poo poo nothin to do with me tho guv' now vs '2017 vs 2019 results was differing brexit stances' because that is 100% true and it is 100% gonna get lied about to pretend 'yeah the great british public just got wise to those wiley lefty lies, centrism 4eva', ultimately even if people were hoodwinked into second ref dogshit at the time if they now recognise it was a loving op then cool.

I've had a drink but what?

therattle
Jul 24, 2007
Soiled Meat

NotJustANumber99 posted:

I've had a drink but what?

Yeah. I couldn’t understand it either.

The Perfect Element
Dec 5, 2005
"This is a bit of a... a poof song"

NotJustANumber99 posted:

I've had a drink but what?

I think they have, as well...

Camrath
Mar 19, 2004

The UKMT Fudge Baron


Toffee and cinder toffee are both things I’m planning to experiment with over christmas :) I haven’t made proper tooth-breaking, filling-loving toffee since I was a kid, so need to relearn the technique.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
I read it as "there were some posters that were a bit 'stop brexit' over 'stop tories' and brexit was a done given since the point Cameron ate poo poo on his own referendum so Labour should have been more get brexit done but aggressively left wing about it, rather than trying to hide all the popular left stuff behind second referendum poo poo", which is true, because while Labour's official policy stance was still "negotiate a deal and then have a referendum on it" that would always be portrayed as a second referendum cop out of "remain vs. pseudo remain" whereas "our brexit deal will be better" might have stood a chance.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
no mate he just says hes gonna try make some toffee

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

feedmegin posted:

No London Commune, no deal :colbert:

There does appear to be a Sheppey Autonomous Oblast though.

Vitamin P
Nov 19, 2013

Truth is game rigging is more difficult than it looks pls stay ded

NotJustANumber99 posted:

I've had a drink but what?

In the period between the 2017 and 2019 election a movement pushing for a second vote on the 2016 brexit referendum emerged. It influenced the Labour Party into changing its previous 2017 position that the referendum result should be respected, resulting in massive electoral losses.

At the time there were a lot of left-liberal people that supported that change in position, some of them were quite obnoxious and bullish about it even, but after the 2019 result they've broadly recognised that it wasn't smart and have quietly moved away from that position.

The background is that Labour during that period was lefty, so establishment media will retroactively explain any failures from that period as being a consequence of lefty ideas, ignoring the influence of the changed brexit position in order to undermine future lefty positions.

It's a bit annoying to see previously obnoxious and bullishly pro-second ref posters now pretending they didn't support a second referendum, but have concluded that there's no use getting hung up on the past and if those same posters are now resisting the narrative that it was Silly Leftishness rather than brexit position that explains the differing results between the elections then that's good and useful.

None of that was actually difficult to parse in the slightest from the post you're quoting btw.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Vitamin P posted:

In the period between the 2017 and 2019 election a movement pushing for a second vote on the 2016 brexit referendum emerged. It influenced the Labour Party into changing its previous 2017 position that the referendum result should be respected, resulting in massive electoral losses.

At the time there were a lot of left-liberal people that supported that change in position, some of them were quite obnoxious and bullish about it even, but after the 2019 result they've broadly recognised that it wasn't smart and have quietly moved away from that position.

The background is that Labour during that period was lefty, so establishment media will retroactively explain any failures from that period as being a consequence of lefty ideas, ignoring the influence of the changed brexit position in order to undermine future lefty positions.

It's a bit annoying to see previously obnoxious and bullishly pro-second ref posters now pretending they didn't support a second referendum, but have concluded that there's no use getting hung up on the past and if those same posters are now resisting the narrative that it was Silly Leftishness rather than brexit position that explains the differing results between the elections then that's good and useful.

None of that was actually difficult to parse in the slightest from the post you're quoting btw.

OK. I understand.

So nothing that isnt the bread and butter of this thread really then. And yet several people still didn't get what you were saying.

Vitamin P
Nov 19, 2013

Truth is game rigging is more difficult than it looks pls stay ded

Guavanaut posted:

I read it as "there were some posters that were a bit 'stop brexit' over 'stop tories' and brexit was a done given since the point Cameron ate poo poo on his own referendum so Labour should have been more get brexit done but aggressively left wing about it, rather than trying to hide all the popular left stuff behind second referendum poo poo", which is true, because while Labour's official policy stance was still "negotiate a deal and then have a referendum on it" that would always be portrayed as a second referendum cop out of "remain vs. pseudo remain" whereas "our brexit deal will be better" might have stood a chance.



If you've heard of DiEM25 the first 3 years of their analysis reads as this slow tragedy, that they basically just assumed a left-populist Labour Party with close ideological links to the best parts/principles of the EU project but taking governance outside the EU would be a jumping off point for this grand unification of the European working class and it's legit sad what actually happened.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
What's really loving annoying are the libs now whining how we could have had a soft brexit if not for labour I'm seeing on twitter by people who were extremely remain supporting

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Vitamin P posted:



If you've heard of DiEM25 the first 3 years of their analysis reads as this slow tragedy, that they basically just assumed a left-populist Labour Party with close ideological links to the best parts/principles of the EU project but taking governance outside the EU would be a jumping off point for this grand unification of the European working class and it's legit sad what actually happened.

How did it take you like half an hour's reading of about 10 posts to realise someone had bothered to decipher your post?

Jose posted:

What's really loving annoying are the libs now whining how we could have had a soft brexit if not for labour I'm seeing on twitter by people who were extremely remain supporting

Like everyone who wasn't a moron and even some of the morons were weighing up the dangers the whole way through about being too committal on all or nothing strategies. So its actually a bit weird for people to now be acting like that never happened.

Granted I'm probably not talking about people who mattered. Just us lot.

NotJustANumber99 fucked around with this message at 01:17 on Dec 9, 2020

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006
it's pretty funny how the fubpees consistently held Keith up as the shining knight of the second ref campaign and then immediately after he won the leadership he turned round and told them that Brexit was finished as an issue

e: trying to make out that this thread was fubpee central is a weird kind of alternate history though

Julio Cruz fucked around with this message at 01:33 on Dec 9, 2020

Vitamin P
Nov 19, 2013

Truth is game rigging is more difficult than it looks pls stay ded

NotJustANumber99 posted:

How did it take you like half an hour's reading of about 10 posts to realise someone had bothered to decipher your post?

People think OnlyFans is all about the pictures but I've found that just taking a few minutes of an evening to engage with the community really pays dividends you know?

Jose posted:

What's really loving annoying are the libs now whining how we could have had a soft brexit if not for labour I'm seeing on twitter by people who were extremely remain supporting

That and the 'we need an effective opposition!' crowd dutifully ignoring that no Starmer will not be green lighting a Pets On Ski Holidays act or in fact doing anything whatsover about brexit being slightly less poo poo.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
I think I said before, my 'more left than me' brother who would normally have voted for a Corbyn-led labour voted LibDem because they were promising to cancel brexit. I said it would never happen and a Corbyn/Labour led brexit would be the best chance to get a deal that didn't kill the poors. We had to agree to disagree because he is extremely pro-remain (lives in France, kids with French passports etc) and saw nothing else like how poo poo The Squirrel Killer was and libdems NEVER do well at national level - well not since about 1920 anyway!

Mebh
May 10, 2010


I still feel bad for voting for the lib dems over a decade ago. Especially after they hosed us for plastic bags.

Chester where I voted stayed solid tory but in 2017 flipped to Labour and has stayed so since so at least that is good. But lol voting for the libs. What the gently caress was I thinking. I still thought until a few years ago that Liberal meant egalitarian and socialism. Hahahaha haha whoops.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
I am a strong fugbee, but I think lea and perrins has undoubtedly been weakened recently, only the last few years. If brexit lets us restrengthen Worcestershire sauce then gently caress maybe it'll be worth it.

Mebh
May 10, 2010


I'll have you know Henderson's relish is superior to Worcester sauce in every way.
Yorkshire supremacy.

Sanitary Naptime
May 29, 2006

MIWK!


Guavanaut posted:

Every one of these maps gets one step closer to this poo poo that I made as a semi-joke over 5 years ago, so I imagine it's on its way.


This is missing an independent Strathclyde and I’m disappointed in you for its absence :colbert:

E: also, cede Edinburgh to Northumbria. It’s rightfully theirs.

Lungboy posted:

This was the second episode I've listened to, and it's good stuff. My only niggle was during the discussion on inflation there was no mention of the shittiest bit of all (imo), that the multiple types of inflation aren't just used to give a more desriable result, but that they are actively used to gently caress people over. Public sector pay rises and pension calculations? Pin it to the lowest inflation metric (RPI). Income off interest on student loads or other repayments to the government? CPI for you!

I kept meaning to bring that up but James was on a roll and I didn’t want to knock them off it.

I’ve got a feeling that economic chat will end up becoming more frequent as we go into Turbo Hyper Austerity (Covid-Sunakist) further.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes
edinburgh should get to vote every 4 years as to which of scotland or northumbria it belongs to depending on which government has better policies at the time. actually wait no it might get swung by the tory voters, just ask me every 4 years. i'll never have bad politics ever

Total Meatlove
Jan 28, 2007

:japan:
Rangers died, shoujo Hitler cried ;_;
Split Edinburgh in two. Everything in sight of the giant gold dog poo poo is English, the rest Scottish.

All of the south coast islands to create their own independent republic.

Sanitary Naptime
May 29, 2006

MIWK!


I just think that if Scotland has to exist then we should have the capital outside of Edinburgh, it needs taken down a peg.

If the People’s Republic of Strathclyde exists then I guess Aberdeen or Dundee can be the capital of whatever inferior state remains of Scotland.

Total Meatlove
Jan 28, 2007

:japan:
Rangers died, shoujo Hitler cried ;_;
Tobermory, and after every election the harbour houses are painted proportionally

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Falkirk looks miserable every time I've tooken the train past it so I vote for it, looks like home, very nice. You can put the parliament benches in the big wheel and have it spin round while they yell at each other.

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply