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NikkolasKing posted:Like, as I've gotten older, I've come to appreciate LOTR more. But I still retain my youthful love for just how much more action-packed The Sil is. Feanor vs all the Balrogs is hilarious.
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Shibawanko posted:because is one of the longest common words in english, "for" is far more efficient and sounds cooler I love how economical Tolkien's prose can be, even if he's famous for the opposite. (I don't know what the proper grammatical term is, but the "-t" words have a very nice heft to them. Wrought, dwelt, sought, smote.)
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Dec 9, 2020 11:59
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Tree Bucket posted:I love how economical Tolkien's prose can be, even if he's famous for the opposite. my favorite is "hewn", as in what happened to hama at the gate. he was hewn
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Shibawanko posted:my favorite is "hewn", as in what happened to hama at the gate. he was hewn
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Or notably how in the Book of Lost Tales era he was obsessed with using "fare" instead of "go"
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Nessus posted:As Treebeard will tell you, one does not typically recover from a state described as "hewn" yeah i picture an axe sticking upright out of someone
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's nervous system Anyway it took me way too long as a kid to realize that "asunder" was "a-sunder" and not "as-under" Made total sense once that finally occurred to me
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Tree Bucket posted:I love how economical Tolkien's prose can be, even if he's famous for the opposite. I've been noticing a lot of idiots using "coronated" recently. No. It's "crowned". What happens at your coronation is that you get crowned. You fuckwits. Not a Tolkien bitch as such, I admit, just a bitch at people who haven't paid attention to the long-term results of the collision between Anglo-Saxon and Norman French.
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Dec 9, 2020 15:11
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As much as I love Lotr I still think the Hobbit is the most brilliant thing Tolkien ever wrote. The constant asides by Tolkien/the narrator to explain things is almost Shakespearian. And they're all pretty funny. You can well imagine Tolkien reading that out loud to his kids.
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Dec 9, 2020 16:01
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Ginette Reno posted:As much as I love Lotr I still think the Hobbit is the most brilliant thing Tolkien ever wrote. The constant asides by Tolkien/the narrator to explain things is almost Shakespearian. And they're all pretty funny. Smith of Wootton Major is my pick for Tolkien's best work. It's all there, everything else he did, in a tight microcosm, and commenting on itself in the process.
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Dec 9, 2020 16:09
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Tree Bucket posted:I love how economical Tolkien's prose can be, even if he's famous for the opposite. Fingolfin's kamikaze duel with Morgoth is incredible and it's a page and a half, max.
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Arcsquad12 posted:Fingolfin's kamikaze duel with Morgoth is incredible and it's a page and a half, max. There's a reason it's #1 in the list of Tolkien's most metal deaths. 
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NikkolasKing posted:Like, as I've gotten older, I've come to appreciate LOTR more. But I still retain my youthful love for just how much more action-packed The Sil is. And incest!
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Dec 9, 2020 16:49
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPBP-3-_Beg Someone did a side by side of all the different versions of Fellowship to show off the colour grading and image quality. The 4K restoration deleted the green filter and it looks amazing.
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Dec 9, 2020 17:01
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i dont care personally for descriptions of battles as long as i learn who, in the end, was hewn
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Or cloven in twain
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Data Graham posted:Or cloven in twain That was his horn 
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Arcsquad12 posted:That was his horn Better horn fate is to burst asunder from blast blown
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Tree Bucket posted:Years ago, my little sister read about two paragraphs of the Sil and asked "why does he keep saying 'for' instead of 'because'" I hope you replied "for".
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Dec 9, 2020 17:43
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NikkolasKing posted:Like, as I've gotten older, I've come to appreciate LOTR more. But I still retain my youthful love for just how much more action-packed The Sil is. Western opinion of kid friendly is 'no swears or sex.' Violence galore is fine and dandy.
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skasion posted:Better horn fate is to burst asunder from blast blown Theoden blowing on that horn so hard that it burst asunder is so badass.
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Dec 9, 2020 17:55
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Ginette Reno posted:Theoden blowing on that horn so hard that it burst asunder is so badass. I know it is coming each time I do a readthru, but I get goosebumps each time they finally show up at Pelennor Fields.
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Data Graham posted:Or cloven in twain hewn asunder
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Hasselblad posted:I know it is coming each time I do a readthru, but I get goosebumps each time they finally show up at Pelennor Fields. Same, and especially when I recently listened to the audiobook for the first time.
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Reading Tolkien in the original has definitely opened up a register of English to me (a non-native speaker) that I hadn't been exposed to at all previously and I believe that my knowledge and understanding of the language have been strongly enriched by it. ("Hewn asunder" and "cloven in twain" are really good, but I'll always have a soft spot for "dwelt")
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System Metternich posted:Reading Tolkien in the original has definitely opened up a register of English to me (a non-native speaker) that I hadn't been exposed to at all previously and I believe that my knowledge and understanding of the language have been strongly enriched by it. It helped me a lot when I moved to Sweden and started trying to learn Swedish, funnily enough. A lot of Tolkien's archaic English grammar and vocabulary derives from a time when English was much closer structurally to the other Germanic languages. So while a lot of my fellow American expats were struggling with Swedish sentence structure, I was like "oh, you just talk like Theoden, no problem, got it."
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Gats Akimbo posted:I've been noticing a lot of idiots using "coronated" recently. Oh, I know. There's something so ugly and careless about it. A journalist should know better!
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Maybe they're using coronated because it sounds more regal than "at hospital, got corona'd, choke mote later."
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Ginette Reno posted:Theoden blowing on that horn so hard that it burst asunder is so badass. I believe the term you're looking for is "metal". At least respect the Professor enough to spell it "bad-rear end", if you must.
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I feel like, if you've been Hewn, then you have ribs sticking out. It's a weirdly powerful word, that one. (I have kind of a soft spot for the awful, awful dialog Tolkien wrote for the humans that get booted out during the Scouring. "Fi! Faugh, you lollygags! That for your message, you old stick-in-the-eyes! Applesauce to you, dundermuffin!")
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Tree Bucket posted:I feel like, if you've been Hewn, then you have ribs sticking out. It's a weirdly powerful word, that one. There's no way anyone ever said "applesauce to you" unironically. Not even 400 years ago.
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Did someone say hewn?
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Imagine a doctor popping out of a hospital door and affixing a concerned expression upon his face as he approaches a huddled group of worried family members waiting in a fluorescent-lit corridor: "I'm sorry, but he's been hewn. He's been hewn pretty badly." Teriyaki Hairpiece fucked around with this message at 03:49 on Dec 10, 2020 |
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Frazzbo posted:I hope you replied "for".
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Imagine a doctor popping out of a hospital door and affixing a concerned expression upon his face as he approaches a huddled group of worried family members waiting in a fluorescent-lit corridor: "We boiled all the leaves we could, but it was no use. I'm afraid he was rent, pierced and suffered many hurts." Frazzbo posted:I hope you replied "for". ...damnit.
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An ER drama, cold-opens with the frantic prepping of the doctors and nurses. "What's the status on the patient?" "He's been hewn." "my god"
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Mahoning posted:Did someone say hewn? dang, that dude got hewn in twain
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nabo posted:dang, that dude got hewn in twain He was right cloven. Hewn is definitely when Rob Roy cleaves through the duder's shoulder.
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if you get hewn in a movie you have to do the wilhelm scream imo or it doesnt count as being hewn
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At housed of healing, hewed fingat, post mote later
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