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I don't even care about Cornelius being cliche, necessarily, I just dislike when he leans totally into the gimmick of saying "micturating" instead of "peeing." My eyes just want to skip over the word balloons full of sesquipedalian diction.
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disaster pastor posted:Which is probably why his out-of-character stuff from the early days is more entertaining to me. Man, Philippe really hosed up this time. Cornelius completely hates rap.
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Dec 7, 2020 21:17
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This is Achewood, and that little boy thinks for all the world that he is drinking king piss.
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Dec 9, 2020 04:50
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Cornelius straight-up turned into an alien towards the end of Achewood's run.
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Halloween Jack posted:I don't even care about Cornelius being cliche, necessarily, I just dislike when he leans totally into the gimmick of saying "micturating" instead of "peeing." My eyes just want to skip over the word balloons full of sesquipedalian diction. he didnt start out that badly, all the dialogue became terrible at some point and his was just the worst hit because he went from saying things like "old top" to whatever the most complicated synonym of a word was
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Dec 9, 2020 11:29
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disaster pastor posted:When Cornelius is a main or supporting player in a story, he's usually written pretty well. When he's background, yeah, he's the laziest kind of "old upper-class" cliche. Which is probably why his out-of-character stuff from the early days is more entertaining to me. Yeah, as well as Achewood generally handled its character development, I have a serious affection for those weird rough gag strips from the early comic. Flavor Flav's blinking tooth, gently caress yeah!
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Dec 9, 2020 14:03
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http://achewood.com/index.php?date=03262002 this is basically what happened
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Shibawanko posted:he didnt start out that badly, all the dialogue became terrible at some point and his was just the worst hit because he went from saying things like "old top" to whatever the most complicated synonym of a word was I mean, that was during when there was HUGE gaps between strips. Like, months and months, then Onstad would come back for a bit, and then vanish again. It was obvious he had "lost" Connies voice.
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Dec 9, 2020 16:57
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Shibawanko posted:http://achewood.com/index.php?date=03262002 this is basically what happened That one feels kind of strange because he clearly had some passion for those books. Later we see so much of his book-mill output that is clearly nothing but a paycheck to him.
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Dec 9, 2020 18:17
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Gnoman posted:That one feels kind of strange because he clearly had some passion for those books. Later we see so much of his book-mill output that is clearly nothing but a paycheck to him. i heard he even failed to deliver a book
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Dec 9, 2020 19:15
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I was talking abou the chatacter, not the author. As a follow-on toe the shifting characterization conversation
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Meg white CMON SHOW ME HER NAKED
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LordSaturn posted:I already said my "surfaces" theory in this thread before, but: Onstad writes only the exterior surfaces of women. the ultimate form of "write what you know," Onstad has never been a woman, and therefore only believes he understands them as the surfaces of them which he perceives. Your theory makes a lot of sense. I guess it's possible to be that insulated from society. God knows I was like that as a teenager.
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Dec 10, 2020 02:45
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Sitting on the toilet, thinking My PEPPER, man! Gonna touch the RIM!
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Man, things ain't never the same once you seen a dude's stew
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WE WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF BURRITOS
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Burritolingus, noun, means, eating a burrito with the mouth
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Shibawanko posted:http://achewood.com/index.php?date=03262002 this is basically what happened I definitely think about this strip a lot whenever I think about late Achewood and Onstad's personal issues, yeah
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Ray don't tell me you made PICKLES in this bed
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Shibawanko posted:http://achewood.com/index.php?date=03262002 this is basically what happened I kind of want to buy a signed framed print. how desperate is onstadt right now? will he take a few cans of stagg's chili?
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The Voice of Labor posted:I kind of want to buy a signed framed print. how desperate is onstadt right now? will he take a few cans of stagg's chili? what? Like, he has a website where you can choose a strip and get it printed on fancy paper and if you want you can pay extra and have him write a little personalized message on it, if that’s what you mean.
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Dec 11, 2020 08:57
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I bought a couple shirts a few weeks ago and they arrived quickly and as described.
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paradoxGentleman posted:I've caught up with the last several pages and man. wasn't the whole joke of the audience in the lesbian erotica contest that they were actually pervert old men http://achewood.com/index.php?date=07292009
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e-dt posted:wasn't the whole joke of the audience in the lesbian erotica contest that they were actually pervert old men I'd just assumed that's how Onstad drew lesbians.
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Dec 11, 2020 13:05
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Yeah, no, it’s just a straight up really pretty gross portrayal of lesbians tbh
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Dec 11, 2020 13:24
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Ok Comboomer posted:Yeah, no, it’s just a straight up really pretty gross portrayal of lesbians tbh Perhaps it varies by region, but I knew a decent number of lesbians back in NC and I reckon that might pass as comic license.
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Dec 11, 2020 13:30
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Stringent posted:Perhaps it varies by region, but I knew a decent number of lesbians back in NC and I reckon that might pass as comic license. Idk what this means
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Ok Comboomer posted:Idk what this means “Yeah it’s a bad portrayal of actual lesbians, and that’s the joke”.
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e-dt posted:wasn't the whole joke of the audience in the lesbian erotica contest that they were actually pervert old men This wasn't a great storyline but "damned if I eat my last line out of a can" is pretty great.
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davidspackage posted:This wasn't a great storyline but "damned if I eat my last line out of a can" is pretty great. Agreed, that said, I was just reflecting on "Victor Is Or Will Become The Founder of Williams-Sonoma".
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Might just be Roast Beef-o-vision too.
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theironjef posted:Might just be Roast Beef-o-vision too. Roast Beef is probably the one Achewood character who I could see not really having a problem with LGBTQ+ people. Teodor did work with that one porn actor but he also had that weird dream where an important person offers him a job and implies that he thinks he's gay, and he got weird about it, so he probably has some baggage there. paradoxGentleman fucked around with this message at 20:47 on Dec 11, 2020 |
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paradoxGentleman posted:Roast Beef is probably the one Achewood character who I could see not really having a problem with LGBTQ+ people. There was a lot of weird stuff regarding Teodor's sexuality, like it's pretty clear that Onstad was never able to really decide what he wanted to do with Teodor long term as a character, which is funny considering he's very blatantly meant to be Onstad's author avatar most of the time
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He feels like one of those people that never quite manages to get their poo poo together, which might be what the author was going for or an unintentional side effect of not knowing what to do with him beside participate in other people's ventures paradoxGentleman fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Dec 11, 2020 |
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paradoxGentleman posted:He feels like one of those people that never quite manages to get their poo poo together, which might be what the author was going for or an unintentional side effect of not knowing what to do with him beside participate in other people's ventures Really don't think that's an accident.
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Ever seen how this scene is described in Oh No Robot? It gets downright cruel. Emphasis mine: quote:[[In a faded rustic typeface, printed in good warm colors on a canvas surface by men]] Microsoft Spatchcock Chicken Supper April 6, 1953 Téodor [[sporting muttonchops and a green outfit that, at first glance, in conjunction with the muttonchops, lends the appearance of a military man, but upon closer inspection, it's just gaudy, all bells in the place of epaulets]]: Spatchcock? [[Heavy-set, mustached man, earth tones of his skin and hair in stark contrast with his neon red cowboy jacket and electric blue hat, henceforth referred to simply as "Boss"]: It means butchering a bird by cutting out its backbone and flattening it. It's how we grill birds for most of our company meals. Where'd you grow up? Téodor: Oh! "Butterflying." I can butterfly as well as anyone. I...I must have been a little out of date on the terminology. [[The Boss stares, silently.]] Boss: You sure you can handle this barbecue? We have forty-five vendors comin' from Canada, the UK, and Sweden. That's in addition to the employees. Téodor: I can do it. I can definitely do it. Are there any other dishes? Boss: Here. [[Téodor stares at the list proferred him. It reads: Fried fresh eastern scallops, individual chicken pie in casserole, broiled halibut steak, fried chicken [obscured] cooked to order, mountain rain[obscured] open-face turkey sandwich with [obscured] whipped potatoes, fried New York [obscured], jam omelette, cheese omelette [obscured]ggs, Blue Ribbon boneless club [obscured] steak, Spanish rice, half [obscured] toast, Garden shrimp salad [obscured] french fried onion [obscured] ginger]] Boss: Cost this out and get me a budget by five. You can call around for prices. Téodor: Okay, sounds good. Great. [[Still shot of a clock at around 10:07.]] Téodor: "DO NOT KILL MY FAMILY," by F. Carleton Nesp. That'd be a funny name for a bad drama. I should call Reader's Digest... [[Still shot of a clock at around 4:56.]] Téodor: I wonder if I want a hawky WASP-type woman. Really reserved, but it would be "our little secret" that she liked sex... A LOT. Boss: Alright, Téodor. Let's see your budget for the big spatchcock supper. Téodor: Oh! I-- [[The Boss looks at Teodor's paper, upon which is written the following, the final line being accompanied by a figure that could be a mushroom cloud or a deciduous tree: "Lao Party Paste" (a new drug) Rodeo Ham (w/ BBQ sauce) Atom Bomb... or Tree?]] [[The Boss stares at the paper.]] Boss: Téodor, are you ever... honest with yourself? I mean, about everything. {{alt text: This is the exact question where the boss knows that he wants you to quit.}}
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Teodor definitely has ADD/ADHD or something similar considering how often that kind of thing happens to him
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drrockso20 posted:Teodor definitely has ADD/ADHD or something similar considering how often that kind of thing happens to him If the man awards or Roast Beef and Molly's wedding catering are any indication, it's imposter syndrome. Any time he has an opportunity to showcase his talents, he completely implodes.
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I know its a bit hack to posit stuff like this, but I always felt like Ray, Beef and Teodor are all meant to be parts of Onstad/a person's mind in general. Ray is the confident, blissfully unaware side, Beef is the depressive side, and Teodor is a mishmash of being functional but not reaching potential.
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