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Doctor Jeep posted:lmao they're gonna bring back the great smog of london and some bastard op ed shithead is gonna say it's cause of all the immigrants and their spicy cooking
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An insane mind posted:This always baffled me, I mean yeah the U.S. is huge and probably a lucrative trading partner...but wouldn't having a trading block that you are geographically a lot closer to be far more preferable? Those people speak foreign
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Doctor Jeep posted:lmao they're gonna bring back the great smog of london and some bastard op ed shithead is gonna say it's cause of all the immigrants and their spicy cooking boris johnson is that you?
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The Thames is going to turn into the Ankh and then London's congestion problems are fixed because you can just walk on the river (if you're fast)
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An insane mind posted:The Thames is going to turn into the Ankh and then London's congestion problems are fixed because you can just walk on the river (if you're fast) Back to soaking the curtains in bleach to hide the smell of the Thames
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gonadic io posted:e.g. Wow, my Dad told me the other day about how he had read the BBC was rubbish because it was full of leftys, I almost threw a book at his head.
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Defund the BBC is horseshoe theory at its best.
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Dravs posted:Wow, my Dad told me the other day about how he had read the BBC was rubbish because it was full of leftys, I almost threw a book at his head. apparently the old think the bbc is full of leftists, the young think the bbc is full of bad faith right wingers whereas in reality the bbc is actually full of liberals
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what is a liberal as applied to the uk. is it the same as neoliberal. is it shorthand for fiscally conservative socially liberal
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Jel Shaker posted:apparently the old think the bbc is full of leftists, the young think the bbc is full of bad faith right wingers whereas in reality the bbc is actually full of liberals It's openly full of Tories but I don't really get where that puts them on a US scale. Personally I'd say they are further right than the democrats.
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Jel Shaker posted:apparently the old think the bbc is full of leftists, the young think the bbc is full of bad faith right wingers whereas in reality the bbc is actually full of liberals but you repeat yourself
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Breath Ray posted:what is a liberal as applied to the uk. is it the same as neoliberal. is it shorthand for fiscally conservative socially liberal it literally means the same as in the US op
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BBC has done more to boost and establish the far-right in mainstream politics than even Enoch Powell. They have plenty of attractive ethnic minorities and gay people in TV presenting roles but all of the BBC’s main journalists, policy makers and head office are upper class oxbridge swamp creatures who were young Tories at university
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If you want to understand what a UK liberal is, first imagine a US liberal. Wait, you're not done. Second, subtract whatever traces of "feels vaguely, weakly responsible for protection of civil rights etc." you can find out of them. Imagine *that* creature! A completely pointless, spineless, soggy noodle of a human. That's a UK liberal.
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are Lib Dems liberals are they more "classical liberals"
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Maximo Roboto posted:are Lib Dems liberals are they more "classical liberals" they are the quivering epitome of liberalism
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Maximo Roboto posted:are Lib Dems liberals are they more "classical liberals" https://twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/987224718049792001
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here's a fun one: was the sdp-liberal alliance in '81 further to the left of labor today
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i say swears online posted:here's a fun one: was the sdp-liberal alliance in '81 further to the left of labor today It's impossible to be left of [position not found] Another victory for keith
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What is the reputation of the SDP, anyway? I've seen them compared to Christian-democrats
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Maximo Roboto posted:are Lib Dems liberals are they more "classical liberals" they're Democrats
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Sax Solo posted:If you want to understand what a UK liberal is, first imagine a US liberal. Wait, you're not done. Second, subtract whatever traces of "feels vaguely, weakly responsible for protection of civil rights etc." you can find out of them. Imagine *that* creature! A completely pointless, spineless, soggy noodle of a human. That's a UK liberal. Don't forget to suck out whatever meagre shreds of charisma, cool, and good looks the US liberal has too.
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Maximo Roboto posted:What is the reputation of the SDP, anyway? I've seen them compared to Christian-democrats they were explicitly modeled on the west german mixed economy apparently, so that was a comparison they likely made themselves
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lol how the Anglosphere is so inherently more right-wing than the rest of Europe that their SD's act like CD's right off the bat
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The secret is they didn't give any fucks about the ideology behind aocial democrats, they just wanted to have a cool name for their "stick it to the left" party. Though they did make the libs into lib dems which is a funnier name imo.
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Maximo Roboto posted:lol how the Anglosphere is so inherently more right-wing than the rest of Europe that their SD's act like CD's right off the bat to be charitable, the German CDs are probably the furthest left party of that flavor in europe. I know the Dutch ones suck
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why dont the dutch just make weed illegal again, all they do is poo poo on it and say it sucks. then gently caress off
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liberal used to mean centre right, pro-business type, the old Liberal party used to be the main opposition to the tories before merging with them after finally getting owned. (iirc before the libs it was the whigs while the tories have sorta been there eternally as the forces of evil on the wrong side of history every single time) nowadays it has got more wrapped up with the american meaning of just anything to the left of the right wing e: its funny thinking about it how parliament established 800 years of rule by the landed gentry up to this lot haha, the only reason we have a third party is to act as a spoiler to the left, chortle Communist Thoughts has issued a correction as of 17:39 on Dec 9, 2020 |
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There's also a very weird narrow period where 'neoliberal' meant 'markets, but with robust state interventions.'
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Tulip posted:There's also a very weird narrow period where 'neoliberal' meant 'markets, but with robust state interventions.' I think that's why ordoliberalism is described as a neoliberal ideology
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Nonsense posted:why dont the dutch just make weed illegal again, all they do is poo poo on it and say it sucks. then gently caress off Because Amsterdam's economy is stagdo-based.
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oliwan posted:Weed is actually illegal in the Netherlands Waste of a country imo.
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Amsterdam is like London except much more blunt and direct, and much prettier. You can get weed on every corner in both, but in Amsterdam they have shops for it. You can’t use toilets in shops without paying in both, but instead of loving around with key locks, the Dutch just charge you to use the bathroom. Just imagine everything about English culture (such as it is) magnified and in your face, and that’s Amsterdam. Also bikes.
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And probably not super-expensive
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Communist Thoughts posted:nowadays it has got more wrapped up with the american meaning of just anything to the left of the right wing
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Purple Prince posted:Amsterdam is like London except much more blunt and direct, and much prettier. You can get weed on every corner in both, but in Amsterdam they have shops for it. You can’t use toilets in shops without paying in both, but instead of loving around with key locks, the Dutch just charge you to use the bathroom. Just imagine everything about English culture (such as it is) magnified and in your face, and that’s Amsterdam. The bikes are also extremely in your face. As are the vans. And the trams. My eyesight isn't great, and Amsterdam is the one city that's made me feel genuinely unsafe as a pedestrian. Not even Marrakesh was anywhere near as bad.
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You really have to treat the bike lanes as you would a main road but it's not that bad given almost every junction is light controlled. A few years ago Mrs Boat and I had a long weekend in Amsterdam and right outside the hotel we saw a French tourist almost step into the path of an oncoming bike. Her companion grabbed her arm and indicating the lights said "non non non, le monsieur rouge!" Italy was way more unnerving given cars don't actually stop at pedestrian crossings until you step into the road.
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Sounds like Amsterdam is just too powerful for your weak-chinned English constitutions.
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