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oh but seriously I posted:Janeway deserved a better show. Archer frankly didn't deserve the scraps he was given. Given how good Trek's animated ventures have historically been, I've got some cautiously optimistic hopes for Prodigy.
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oh but seriously I posted:I don't believe Kirk would have been so stone loving cold. Kirk would have grabbed someone's shoulders with both hands and yelled at them or kissed them depending on the mood.
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Cat Hatter posted:Kirk would have grabbed someone's shoulders with both hands and yelled at them or kissed them depending on the mood. The Clown was a computer, right? Kirk would've illogic'd it to death.
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Cat Hatter posted:Kirk would have grabbed someone's shoulders with both hands and yelled at them or kissed them depending on the mood. Planted an open mouther right on them and screamed directly down their throat?
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Randomly rewatching stuff and man, the dude in Reunion who says "He has claimed the right of VENGEANCE!" just absolutely nails it, goddamn. The delivery has always stuck with me.
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oh but seriously I posted:Janeway deserved a better show. Archer frankly didn't deserve the scraps he was given. Well, now I wonder if either show would have been better swapping Janeway and Archer. I mean, it would be hard to make Enterprise worse but I feel like Voyager suffers more in this swap.
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8one6 posted:Well, now I wonder if either show would have been better swapping Janeway and Archer. Janeway would have had the Xindi season wrapped up in a two parter. Archer would have dragged Year of Hell out for an actual year. Kathryn Janeway gets poo poo done, Jonathan Archer gets his poo poo pushed in.
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Give me an ENT Season 5 in which Archer gets kicked upstairs to an admiral's desk and Hernandez gets moved over to Enterprise from Columbia. I liked Bakula even if I didn't really like Archer but as a recurring guest admiral I think he really would've shined.
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Delsaber posted:Give me an ENT Season 5 in which Archer gets kicked upstairs to an admiral's desk and Hernandez gets moved over to Enterprise from Columbia. Just make T'pol captain, imo.
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Delsaber posted:Give me an ENT Season 5 in which Archer gets kicked upstairs to an admiral's desk and Hernandez gets moved over to Enterprise from Columbia. Scott Bakula is basically the only reason I don't hate Archer as a character. That man broke his back trying to carry Enterprise's lovely writing as far as he could. He's a drat hero in my eyes  Also Archer's Theme is the best leitmotif in all of Star Trek. Fight me, nerds.
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Would Archer have blown up the Caretaker or used it to wrap up the series in one ep?
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mythicknight posted:Would Archer have blown up the Caretaker or used it to wrap up the series in one ep? Archer always cuts the Gordian Knot in the worst possible way, so yeah he would have rode the Caretaker array back to DS9 and shot off a torpedo that exploded in the shape of a middle finger so that the Ocampa could see it before he left.
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mythicknight posted:Would Archer have blown up the Caretaker or used it to wrap up the series in one ep? Crewman Daniels would tell him not to blow it up and return to the Alpha Quadrant in order to preserve the timeline. Archer would blow it up out of spite.
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Archer was a raging rear end in a top hat in season 1, but became more of a bumbling failson doofus after that, so it’s tough to completely hate him even though the character kinda deserves it. Definitely helps having someone as genuinely charismatic as Bakula playing him though. I assume that’s (along with probably great ratings from a boomer viewer base) partly why his NCIS spinoff has lasted 30 seasons or whatever.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Archer was a raging rear end in a top hat in season 1, but became more of a bumbling failson doofus after that, so it’s tough to completely hate him even though the character kinda deserves it. Definitely helps having someone as genuinely charismatic as Bakula playing him though. I assume that’s (along with probably great ratings from a boomer viewer base) partly why his NCIS spinoff has lasted 30 seasons or whatever. I've seen the occasional clip of NCIS: New Orleans with Bakula and I have to admit a part of my brain always goes "You know, I could see myself watching this for Bakula alone" before the rest of my mind turns into Galadriel screaming herself out of reaching for the One Ring.
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I still believe that the Voyager mission debrif when they got home was the most epic act of perjury in Starfleet history.
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8one6 posted:I still believe that the Voyager mission debrif when they got home was the most epic act of perjury in Starfleet history. Or Janeway told the whole truth and Starfleet Command, the hosed up collective of fart-huffing dipshits they are, made her a vice admiral on the spot because she was their kind of hosed up. And they liked that 
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It's unintentionally quite good that Archer becomes a bumbling failson but Bakula has such charisma that he basically sells is so that I can go 'okay yeah, everyone know's he's a bumbling dumbass but he's just so earnest they keep giving him a pass and promoting him'.
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rewatching voyager for the first time since it originally aired when i was a kid and--in the third season now--it truly is a wretched show every bit as boring and bad as i remembered Janeway carries the entire weight of that shitshow on her ice cold shoulders, voyager was a disservice to Mulgrew
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nine-gear crow posted:Or Janeway told the whole truth and Starfleet Command, the hosed up collective of fart-huffing dipshits they are, made her a vice admiral on the spot because she was their kind of hosed up. Or she was a hero in the eyes of the public for getting the ship home (maybe the plucky ship Voyager was a feel good story while the Dominion War was going on), so they kicked her upstairs so she’d never command a ship again.
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nine-gear crow posted:Kathryn Janeway did nothing wrong. Really she should have brutally murdered Tuvix as soon as he showed up
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Once they could split them up they should have used the Tomas Riker thing to clone people and then started feeding more people into the transporter to see if there were any other great combos they could come up with. Maybe a Chakotom Paris, or a Vorikim, or even a B'Elanna Tor'Kes. Just go crazy with it.
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Yvonmukluk posted:I think I read somewhere that RDM said he almost wished they hadn't done Yesterday's Enterprise, because that plotline would have been perfect for Generations/saying goodbye to Kirk. Kirk's last words to the crew of the -D as they escape back to their own time, "I always thought it would be the Klingons."
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8one6 posted:Vorikim I find this sequence of letters greatly distressing. Well done.
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I still think they should do a Tuvix-style mashup of Seven of Nine and Gary Seven, who of course would be named Gary of Nine.
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Powered Descent posted:I still think they should do a Tuvix-style mashup of Seven of Nine and Gary Seven, who of course would be named Gary of Nine. Haha, Gary!
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Oh coochie moya, I am far from the medicine of my ancestors. Please state the nature of your medical emergency.
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Cojawfee posted:Haha, Gary! Ahh, Gary.
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Here's my guide: Just watch em. Good with the bad. Don't skip something because someone said it sucks. And most definitely don't just skip to season 3 like some people suggest. There are great episodes in every season.
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Cojawfee posted:Here's my guide: Just watch em. Good with the bad. Don't skip something because someone said it sucks. And most definitely don't just skip to season 3 like some people suggest. There are great episodes in every season. I actually love voyager FYI, so I can deal with shite. And I still want advice.
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