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The Bloop posted:I... do not remember anything like that at all. Well thank goodness. I heard it from someone talking out their rear end then.
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I think the confusion is that in the movie BeetleJuice is a weirdo who wants to marry the underage lydia, and in the cartoon their relationship is more Aladdin and the Genie, far more innocent, which makes it just seem weird. It's a clash of ideas that taints the whole idea. Beetlejuice is also a straight up villain in the movie.
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Dec 10, 2020 16:22
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In the movie, Betelgeuse is a dangerous and powerful being who demands that Lydia marry him so he can get the interdimensional equivalent of a green card, in exchange for him saving the nice ghost couple that haunts her house from an exorcism. The climax is the nice ghosts trying to banish him to stop the wedding. He acts sleazy as hell, but there no “grooming.” Grooming is a specific thing, but people want to use it to describe every bad interaction between a girl and an older guy. The show is just Lydia having a whimsical ghost friend and they get up to misadventures where she’s generally the “straight man.” There’s no nice ghost couple. Dr Christmas has a new favorite as of 16:47 on Dec 10, 2020 |
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Dec 10, 2020 16:34
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Beetlejuice doesn't want to marry Lydia, it's a sham marriage to get around the afterworld's immigration laws. e:f;b
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Dec 10, 2020 16:36
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The Bloop posted:I... do not remember anything like that at all. Yeah, Jeffrey Jones isn't even in the cartoon, and he never played Beetlejuice anyway.
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Dec 10, 2020 16:38
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BioEnchanted posted:It also has an amazing rogue's gallery who are all either intimidating, funny or both. Fish Guy and Putty Thing were a great pair of joke villains. I liked their dynamic of "The Mask starts terrorising Fish Guy because FG is basically helpless and Putty Thing comes to his rescue" Fish Guy and Putty Thing are literally the only thing I remember about The Mask cartoon. From my memory, they were basically too loser stoners who wanted superpowers to be cool. They break into something (a nuclear reactor?) and get all glowy then go look for something to bite them to make them cool. They get into some type of accident and one guy gets knocked into putty and the other into a fish stall. Then the one is all "Duuudddee I'm a putty man who can change shape!" And the other one says "...... I'm a fish.  ". His depressed delivery of that line is forever burned into my brain.
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Dec 10, 2020 17:04
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I really dig their dynamic - while Fish Guy is pathetic, he's not quite harmless - he wants to be able to join Putty Thing wreaking havoc, and is resentful at being literally helpless, so Putty Thing basically let's him conduct their rampages and choose what they destroy. It says a lot about him that he's THAT much of a petty dick that he's satisfied with that as his new life, rather than seeking a way to become human again so he can move under his own power. He is the worlds most Toxic person.
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Dec 10, 2020 17:18
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The 90s fuckin' LOVED the concept of "Popular character, but they're a teenager!" They didn't last long, but I absolutely remember a live-action "Young Indiana Jones" show, and there used to be a "Young James Bond" cartoon, though all I remember about the former is that it switched between Young Indy and Old Indy who was telling the story, and the latter involved a lot of James having to sneak out of his dorm to do his teen spy stuff without getting caught by the hall monitor, or whatever the wet towel character's official rank was.
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Dec 10, 2020 17:21
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the_steve posted:The 90s fuckin' LOVED the concept of "Popular character, but they're a teenager!" It was James Bond Jr. but he was actually James Bond's nephew 
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People hated the old Indiana Jones so much that he was cut out of the dvd release, but I thought he was great. I guess people didn’t like seeing their wish-fulfillment hero ending up a frail old man telling stories to bored kids. They also did a few with Harrison Ford as middle-aged Indiana Jones telling the story, though I guess soon they’d be able to redo the old Indy segments again by re-recording them with Harrison Ford.
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Dec 10, 2020 17:26
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Isn't Indiana Jones already Indiana Jones Jr.?
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Iron Crowned posted:It was James Bond Jr. but he was actually James Bond's nephew “Nephew”
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Turpitude II posted:i think you might be forgetting about this bit. the mask was on tv semi-recently and i was like, boy, i sure forgot that he sodomises a man with a car pipe. seems bad. Better than what happens to him in the comic 
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BaldDwarfOnPCP posted:I'd like to hit JC on this one but Hollywood in general just can't stand older women unless they're super super talented like Meryl Streep or Kathy Bates and they can't play romantic roles after idk, 30? The Mummy 3 is actually really good about keeping the romance between Evey and O'Connel going, even with them in their forties. It also does a great job of having them being stuck in a bit of a rut in their marriage, but still dedicated to each other, and almost as horny as Gomez and Morticia. The movie starts with Evey struggling to write her book about their previous adventures, and O'Connel having a disastrous fishing trip. He puts on a fancy dinner, tries to seduce her, she rebuffs him to go work on her book. As she's typing away she starts reminiscing about their adventures, starts having an imaginary sword-fight and getting all hot under the collar. So she then puts on a lacy dress and throws herself at O'Connel.....who's fallen asleep in his chair.
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the_steve posted:The 90s fuckin' LOVED the concept of "Popular character, but they're a teenager!" Young Indiana Jones at least gave us the best summary of the history of Pre-Revolution Mexico ever: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKI2tJ69Mg8 James Bond Jr. on the other hand I HATED with a passion. Jr. was the smuggest motherfucker and his friends were annoying. I kept rooting either for the death traps to kill James or for the snooty rich kid character to get them all expelled. EDIT: And speaking of "not aging well", they decided to ratchet up the Yellow Peril aspect of Dr. No then disguise it by... turning him green (probably from the radiation in the pool he fell into?):  They also did that for the Mandarin in the 90s Iron Man cartoon, a few years later. Of all the dumb ideas to rip off. 
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Kaiser Mazoku posted:Isn't Indiana Jones already Indiana Jones Jr.? We named the dog Indiana!
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Kaiser Mazoku posted:Isn't Indiana Jones already Indiana Jones Jr.? He's Henry Jones Jr. They named the dog Indiana.
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Did anything ever elaborate on why he chose to go by the same name as his dog? Was it like a childhood phase where he just liked the sound of it and named everything namable "Indiana" and it just kinda caught on?
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Asterite34 posted:Did anything ever elaborate on why he chose to go by the same name as his dog? Was it like a childhood phase where he just liked the sound of it and named everything namable "Indiana" and it just kinda caught on? Maybe he didn't like being called Henry or Hank
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It is weird how we so easily accept a character's first name as Indiana. If you're naming someone after a state it's a good choice. Ohio Jones would sound weird and nobody is going to take a professor named Arkansas Jones seriously.
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pretty sure alabama jones sells me weed
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*Young Henry Jones Jr watching a performance of The Music Man* "Hmm, yes, this will be my new identity." "What, Gary?" "No that's dumb, what the gently caress kind of name is 'Gary'?"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7agYvEeYPM
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Idaho is a funny name to choose a parody considering there's another fictional swashbuckling adventurer type named Idaho who actually predates Indiana Jones.
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The Moon Monster posted:Idaho is a funny name to choose a parody considering there's another fictional swashbuckling adventurer type named Idaho who actually predates Indiana Jones. There's a bit missing from the beginning of the sketch where people are calling him Indy and he tells them to stop because his name is Idaho, so they should be calling him Ida. I think the name was chosen for that weak gag rather than an in depth knowledge of pulp heroes.
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The Moon Monster posted:Idaho is a funny name to choose a parody considering there's another fictional swashbuckling adventurer type named Idaho who actually predates Indiana Jones. Whenever people talk about Duncan Idaho I picture a potato man roaming the desert. I have never and will never read Dune so I can preserve this image in my mind.
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Anyone who hasn't seen Beetlejuice should rectify that.
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Isn't there also an adventure serial character named Montana Smith? Seems right up George Lucas' very specific alley to steal something like that and recontextualize it slightly.
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:Isn't there also an adventure serial character named Montana Smith? Seems right up George Lucas' very specific alley to steal something like that and recontextualize it slightly. You're thinking of Montana Max (who is a reconceptualization of Yosemite Sam)
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The Bloop posted:You're thinking of Montana Max (who is a reconceptualization of Yosemite Sam) Lol, reminds me of being a kid and reading some sort of magazine that my older brother had that had some sort of "preview" of the new and exciting Tiny Toons Adventures! And it went out of it's way to let you know that these are NOT the kids of the former WB cartoon starts. Buster and Babs are not the son and daughter of Bugs (and, in fact, have no relation to each other, either, as they point out,) Max is not the son of Yosemite, Plucky not the son of Daffy, etc... And it's similar in most of Disney...Huey, Dewy, and Louie are the nephews of Donald, who in turn is the nephew of Scrooge. Except Goofy; he has a son. Canonically, Goofy Fucks.
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hard counter posted:pretty sure alabama jones sells me weed Pretty sure that's a porno parody
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you got me, i never done even one marijuanas
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Alabama Smith is the player character in Paganitzu
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One of my favorite semi reoccurring X-Files things is that despite believing in aliens, astral projection, Atlantis, alternate dimensions, vampires, ghosts, werewolves, sasquatch, river monsters, golems, gremlins, elves, dwarves, kobbolds, kelpies, boggards, night hags, grumkins, and snarks Mulder is an atheist and whenever they're dealing with anything remotely religious, at least Christianity related, he outright dismisses it and Scully, who is religious, becomes the believer.
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FreudianSlippers posted:One of my favorite semi reoccurring X-Files things is that despite believing in aliens, astral projection, Atlantis, alternate dimensions, vampires, ghosts, werewolves, sasquatch, river monsters, golems, gremlins, elves, dwarves, kobbolds, kelpies, boggards, night hags, grumkins, and snarks Mulder is an atheist and whenever they're dealing with anything remotely religious, at least Christianity related, he outright dismisses it and Scully, who is religious, becomes the believer. yeah it's really really on the nose in that stigmata episode, it makes both of them look bad lol
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As I continue my Dark Shadows watch, I've seen way more women being slapped in the face than is necessary (that number being zero). I believe at this point every female character has been slapped at least once. Granted, some of the men were slapped but that doesn't make up for it. Even the young boy, David, got slapped by his father. And it was a real slap, not a stuntman slap. There's only a couple of child actors on the show and even they get in on the physical abuse. David, while possessed by the ghost of Quentin, twists Amy's arm behind her back. This gets repeated by Jamison, under the possession of Count Petofi, who does the same to Nora. Both children have been grabbed and shaken by various adults. Obviously, this would not fly today.
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Henchman of Santa posted:It’s gross and not what you want from your heroic protagonist but a dude who 100% believes in the supernatural but Has Some Questions about sexual assault is definitely a realistic type of guy Yeah, that episode isnt great. X-Files was a little heavy on rape as a punchline too. Two of the best episodes (The Postmodern Prometheus and Small Potatoes) have rape played farcically.
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Disco Pope posted:Yeah, that episode isnt great. X-Files was a little heavy on rape as a punchline too. Two of the best episodes (The Postmodern Prometheus and Small Potatoes) have rape played farcically. Postmodern Prometheus absolutely does not age well.
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I don't think I want to know what adventures young Indiana Jones got up to since we already know canonically one of those adventures was sleeping with his mentor's underage daughter while in grad school. I would love to here George Lucas explain why he thought pedophile would be a fun character quirk for an action movie hero.
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One of his adventures was fighting in the trenches in the first World War, which was pretty terrifying when the germans start advancing through the gas with their flame throwers
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