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Bobstar posted:Also, is he white European, Emirati, or south-east Asian? Because those three groups have quite different experiences growing up in the UAE I think. To him conservatism seemed to be linked to "work hard and get your reward" while also excluding physical and untrained labour from that because anyone can do it. Tempered with a decent amount of neoliberal personal responsibility poo poo, so anyone who was poor or strughling just wasn't trying hard enough. We were friends around the time of the London riots of the early 2010s, the ones where just the looting was being reported. Some of the bile he came out with about the looters and 'benefits scum' was astounding, especially for me as someone who's been on benefits several times. Definitely a case of politics being how they treat you if they don't know you. Lovely guy to my face, genuinely funny and positive energy to him, but just had this fantasy wall where everyone he didn't know was a scrounging stereotype clawing at the walls trying to get what was his. E: 53 is a prime number and therefore is owned by Amazon, a megacorporation who are today mostly making a crapload of money delivering a game which warns of the dangers of megacorporations owning everything. Bobby Deluxe fucked around with this message at 15:59 on Dec 10, 2020 |
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stev posted:What the gently caress is a default breast. What we're all going to be eating after January 1st.
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mrpwase posted:Either I'm hallucinating or the letters UKMT have been burnt into my phone screen at the exact point where they show in the awful app The same thing has happened to me on my Galaxy S8.(along with the Post circle in the bottom right hand corner.) Basically if you are using the Something Awful App on a Smartphone, your phone probably has an OLED screen. It's a thing called burn in. Funnily enough it was something that many OLED TV buyers were afraid of, and would use as a reason to not get OLED screens. Supposedly the technology has advanced to such an extent that often the TV's don't do it now. But it's not as much as people's priority for Smart Phone users.
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The Question IRL posted:Basically if you are using the Something Awful App on a Smartphone, your phone probably has an OLED screen. It's a thing called burn in.
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thank u to techbros for reinventing burn in bring back a need to degauss next *wonk*
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sometimes it's burn in, sometimes it's just image retention. one is reversible, one isn't.Regarde Aduck posted:thank u to techbros for reinventing burn in unironic yes, i miss the BWONGGGGGGG
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multijoe posted:But living in the rural south, you do just get people who passively pick up the views that surround them in their environment without ever internalising them, maybe that's not so much a thing up in areas in strong and proud histories of hating the Tories but down here it is just a thing you encounter *Raises Hand* This is me. I had a preposterously twee upper-middle-class privately-educated upbringing in semi-rural Hampshire. We lived across the road from the then-current First Sea Lord. I can't exactly say how my political views were first formed, but when I started caring about politics in the early 2000s, my principles were 1) The Iraq War was a travesty 2) Thatcherism was evil 3) New Labour were authoritarian ghouls who clearly went against almost everything the Labour Party was supposed to stand for, even if I didn't agree with what that was either. Oh, and my Dad instilled in me a severe scepticism of the Lib Dems, telling me that they have no principles and would abandon the ones they claim to have in an instant for a sniff of power. That was in 2001. Prescient stuff! So I was a genuine One Nation Conservative because it was the only option open to me. New Labour (who were 'the left', and the Telegraph kept calling them socialists...) were lovely authoritarian warmongers. The Hague/Howard Tories were Thatcherite monsters and the Lib Dems, well, enough said. So I hitched myself to a vapourware version of Conservatism that didn't really exist but seemed to be the answer to someone who wanted to give a gently caress about society and people who weren't necessarily posh white chaps like myself but was too ignorant and cosseted to really know how to go about doing so in terms of party politics.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:What we're all going to be eating after January 1st. So, human breasts.
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Bobby Deluxe posted:I had a friend who described himself as being conservative in that special, mind bent way where he had selected a five minute window of history where the party claimed to be about fiscal responsibility, and decided he agreed with that and so was conservative. Advocate for the devil here, but is that really so different from this thread who mostly hate the centrist Labour leadership and the Blair governments?
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u brexit ukip it posted:Advocate for the devil here, but is that really so different from this thread who mostly hate the centrist Labour leadership and the Blair governments?
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Bobby Deluxe posted:I was thinking that, yes. I guess the difference is that until the blair takeover, Labour actually stood for something. The conservative party has always been a front for rich cunts making themselves richer.
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I remember reading a Tory party manifesto from around WW2 time and it was raving trot stuff compared to now! On my phone so not gonna Google for link.
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We called my best mate in the UK a Tory for years, and all he would say is "I'm not a Tory". Then in the lead up to the 2019 election he came out as a Lib Dem. So what I'm saying is, we were right all along. Also he said that me saying that the press had it in for Corbyn was "Trumpian". Lol.
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But a year ago they said it was Oven ready! This is a shocking predicament, the press must be kicking themselves over it. Still, it's hard to predict "Boris Johnson lies" as being a thing.
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It's Helen piss obviously https://twitter.com/SCFCJosh96/status/1337028224308682752?s=19
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do not become addicted to food my friends, for you will begin to resent it's absence
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stev posted:The breast options are small, default and big. A brilliant username?
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Not sure if this has been posted but the Good Law Project are running a live stream at the moment, the last one of these they ran was very positive and gave me hope in these dark dark times... Possibility of charges against certain MP's? Sign me up! https://twitter.com/GoodLawProject/status/1337094884549783552
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Gonzo McFee posted:But a year ago they said it was Oven ready! This is a shocking predicament, the press must be kicking themselves over it. Still, it's hard to predict "Boris Johnson lies" as being a thing. As annoying as it is to say, the oven ready deal was the withdrawal agreement, not the trade deal. They only said that would be the easiest deal in history. Thanks to whoever linked the Alexei Sayle podcast the other day, I can appreciate anyone calling Tom Watson a oval office. Lungboy fucked around with this message at 19:37 on Dec 10, 2020 |
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Lungboy posted:As annoying as it is to say, the oven ready deal was the withdrawal agreement, not the trade deal. They only said that would be the easiest deal in history. no it loving wasn't this is the tories trying to excuse not getting a trade deal.
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I really want to get into the mind of the apparently able-to-tie-their-own-shoelaces people at the top of the Tory party who think at any point we held the upper hand in trade negotiations against the EU - or that storming off in a strop will strengthen that hand rather than forcing us to accept any drat thing the EU want in about March when the economy completely craters. Even the most psychotic disaster capitalist must know deep in their reptile brain that this is what's going to happen and it's going to hurt them too. The only conclusion I can draw is that they're actually *all* that loving stupid, that there's not even a figure hoping to end up like the oligarchs after the collapse of Russia (because unlike Russia we've got gently caress-all primary or secondary industry to sell off for hard currency) and that they actually loving believe the poo poo they're talking and are actually baffled and annoyed that the largest economies in the world aren't beating a path to our door.
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Jose posted:no it loving wasn't this is the tories trying to excuse not getting a trade deal. I'm only going on a fact checker the BBC did, where all the oven ready promises were related to the WA.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:I really want to get into the mind of the apparently able-to-tie-their-own-shoelaces people at the top of the Tory party who think at any point we held the upper hand in trade negotiations against the EU - or that storming off in a strop will strengthen that hand rather than forcing us to accept any drat thing the EU want in about March when the economy completely craters. Even the most psychotic disaster capitalist must know deep in their reptile brain that this is what's going to happen and it's going to hurt them too. Perhaps the organization is structurally unable to tolerate that sort of divergence from the preferred narrative. Like everyone individually might be able to see that it's loving stupid but they are not able to act on it organizationally.
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I wonder where Mark Francois is right now?  I'd have expected him to be getting invited to every BBC soapbox 24/7 right now to explain why no deal is totally fine but even if it isn't fine its what the people wanted and even if they didn't want it its better than being in the EU.....
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Lungboy posted:I'm only going on a fact checker the BBC did, where all the oven ready promises were related to the WA. Absolutely nobody in the press or the tories said this at the time and if it was it was only on some back page of a press release that nobody published. They weren't going around saying "It's an Oven Ready Deal on the Withdraw agreement we still have lots to do on things like trade so really it's not Oven ready it's not even blue apron ready we've barely agreed to go to the shops" It's a weak as gently caress excuse. Small print bullshit. Edit: The Tories blame the press for not being clear, the press blame you for not knowing something they didn't tell you. We go through this every time the Tories gently caress up spectacularly. Gonzo McFee fucked around with this message at 19:57 on Dec 10, 2020 |
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StarkingBarfish posted:I wonder where Mark Francois is right now? Isn't he under investigation for something?
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Politics is banned in my house because while my wife and I entirely agree on pretty much everything she grew up in the religious south in the states and is "Tired of seeing you all do exactly the same poo poo and treating it like it's a revelation that people are lovely" She thinks you can't change anything, nothing we do will have any effect and so there's no point. All you do is make yourself miserable because people will never stop being lovely. Pretty much nothing surprises her about UK politics as she says she's seen it all before and so she'd rather not hear about it at all because why bother. Living with someone with depression! Yay. So I try to not talk about it at home.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:I really want to get into the mind of the apparently able-to-tie-their-own-shoelaces people at the top of the Tory party who think at any point we held the upper hand in trade negotiations against the EU The thinking doesn't surprise me. From the Tory mindset it was the UK, the Greatest Country in the World (see comments by the Minister for Education this week.) And on the other side was the EU. And the EU is broken up into The Paddys - Natural servants to the English. While they have an animal type of cunning and quick wits that almost matches the superior, Logical English mind, they will fold when pressed due to their inherent fecklessness. The Frogs - Ah, the old enemy. A tricky foe. Still they have no stomach for a fight, once we threaten to stop buying their wine, they will capitulate. The Hun - Ah, the old enemy. A tricky foe. Well have to be careful with them, but they would be wise not to anger Blighty, less they face our Blitz spirit. The Spainish - Once we threaten to not go there on holidays they will fold, for fear of their tourism sector collapsing. Probably have to sell them some fish too. The rest - Once the main ones fold, all the other cards will collapse like a Domino when you roll a six. Checkmate. I guarantee you that it was a mixture of arrogance, English Exceptionalism and Jingoistic Xenophobia that was going through those Tory minds.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Even the most psychotic disaster capitalist must know deep in their reptile brain that this is what's going to happen and it's going to hurt them too. It won't hurt them at all, they'll stroll off with pockets full.
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:It won't hurt them at all, they'll stroll off with pockets full. Most of them won't even have the "Whoops, sorry I destroyed the planet. Still gonna keep doing it though." revelation that the not dead enough Koch brother had.
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Gonzo McFee posted:Absolutely nobody in the press or the tories said this at the time and if it was it was only on some back page of a press release that nobody published. They weren't going around saying "It's an Oven Ready Deal on the Withdraw agreement we still have lots to do on things like trade so really it's not Oven ready it's not even blue apron ready we've barely agreed to go to the shops" It's a weak as gently caress excuse. Small print bullshit. From the Conservative Manifesto: "With a new Parliament and a sensible majority government, we can get that deal through in days. “It is oven-ready and every single Conservative MP elected at this election, all 365 of them, have pledged to vote for this deal immediately.” Trying to find the quote but Boris did say that once the oven ready deal was done there was plenty of time to sort the trade deal. E: another: "We’ve got a deal, oven-ready, by which we can leave the EU in just a few weeks.” and "Whack it in the microwave, gas mark… I’m not very good at cooking… gas mark four. “Prick the lid. Put it in, and then we can get on… we can put this deal through Parliament.” Lungboy fucked around with this message at 20:10 on Dec 10, 2020 |
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"Oven Ready Deal" is a perfectly understandable Three Word Phrase & I categorically refuse to accept that there can be any more nuance to international diplomacy than that
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:It won't hurt them at all, they'll stroll off with pockets full. Apart from shorting the pound and smuggling insulin there's just not as much opportunity to do that in the current scenario. There's nothing to be sold, the Tories already did that. Free ports will last about a millisecond before being closed to EU ports. What economy we have is based on being an EU nation with a language and cuisine not too scary to Americans, and that's gonna end. Maybe they think they can buy up all the housing on the cheap then ride the wave when we are forced back to the table, but that's the sort of long term thinking that is explicitly selected against on the modern world
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Lungboy posted:and "Whack it in the microwave, gas mark… I’m not very good at cooking… gas mark four. I know it’s very low down on Johnson’s list of offenders but the fact that he does stuff like this so plainly deliberately makes me want to choke him
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goddamnedtwisto posted:What economy we have is based on being an EU nation with a language and cuisine not too scary to Americans, and that's gonna end. Maybe they think they can buy up all the housing on the cheap then ride the wave when we are forced back to the table, but that's the sort of long term thinking that is explicitly selected against on the modern world
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