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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal


e: The theoretical maximum speed of analog data transmission over PSTN was 56 kbps.

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Ash Crimson
Apr 4, 2010

NotJustANumber99 posted:

keep your hair on lol

Are you Suzanne moore

Mr Phillby
Apr 8, 2009

~TRAVIS~

Bobby Deluxe posted:

I thought it was a rebreather, because the marines who actually have jumppacks have much bigger ones.
Smdh they didn't make the in game models heroic scale

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

For whoever was hypothesizing whether senior brexiteers were dumb enough to destroy the country they live in:

https://bylinetimes.com/2020/12/09/brexiters-fled-britain/

Guess who no longer lives in the UK! So it's 50% malice leading the other 50% who probably are dumb enough to believe the first lot that everything will turn out ok.

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.

goddamnedtwisto posted:

I really want to get into the mind of the apparently able-to-tie-their-own-shoelaces people at the top of the Tory party who think at any point we held the upper hand in trade negotiations against the EU - or that storming off in a strop will strengthen that hand rather than forcing us to accept any drat thing the EU want in about March when the economy completely craters. Even the most psychotic disaster capitalist must know deep in their reptile brain that this is what's going to happen and it's going to hurt them too.

The only conclusion I can draw is that they're actually *all* that loving stupid, that there's not even a figure hoping to end up like the oligarchs after the collapse of Russia (because unlike Russia we've got gently caress-all primary or secondary industry to sell off for hard currency) and that they actually loving believe the poo poo they're talking and are actually baffled and annoyed that the largest economies in the world aren't beating a path to our door.

"if I don't do this, the rank-and-file will just replace me"

CON was aware of the weakness of the UK position very early on, which is why they coronated May in 2016 - someone who backed Remain, who wanted to delay negotiations - rather than allow the membership to speak

May however calculated - correctly, in retrospect - that LAB would not be disciplined enough to keep whipping Remain and would instead quickly try to out-Brexit the party at the flanks. Given Cameron's tiny majority this would make government paralysis all too certain... still, even then there was no illusion that the UK would have a negotiating advantage. Instead e.g. May attempted to trade UK military contributions in Europe for a lopsided economic deal, narrowly focusing on the priorities outlined in Lancaster House earlier that year: an FTA that de facto entrenches the single market and four freedoms but gives May the same thing as Cameron's pre-referendum 2016 agreement 'emergency brake' on migration. "Give me the same thing I already have, only in nicer language, or I'll take away something really meaningful to you" is at least plausible. Then she went to the polls to widen that majority on the back of that Brexit-sounding message, but of course failed to do so.

whether "I have a huge majority of the people backing me, I go now to Brussels, surely they will not say no to us in the bluntest possible way and leave me with exactly zero cover at home" was ever a political play that could work is doubtful - ask Alexis Tsipras about that sometime - but in any case she didn't even have that afterward. And the Commons was likewise too cowardly to take the heat for endorsing a compromise.

post-May, well. CON was never internally obligated to inevitably crown its most radical wing - just as LAB was never internally obligated to give Corbyn those MP nominations in 2015 - but having empowered the populist wave for cheap gains, those who boldly staked their political careers on fighting the onrushing tide have promptly lost them, whilst those who meekly went to some safe regional or thinktank role somewhere have kept their ability to return in the future

ronya fucked around with this message at 01:42 on Dec 11, 2020

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Guavanaut posted:



e: The theoretical maximum speed of analog data transmission over PSTN was 56 kbps.

You mean single-pair POTS, not PSTN. Bonded v90 could get you as much speed as you had pairs for, and although not common, post-war radio trunks could do a couple of megabits of telex traffic over an analogue carrier.

Now there's also an argument to be had over whether broadband is an analogue or a digital signal - any non-baseband technology falls into that grey area because "digital" is generally accepted to mean "passes discrete binary signals" in a lot of applications, and DSL is conceptually much closer to an analogue modem (in fact similar to the way most high-speed narrowband modems work, which is effectively dozens of modems on fairly narrow non-interfering frequency bands).

Of course the counterargument is that there's no actual conceptual difference between digital and analogue signals, it's just a matter of resolution, and the distinction is part marketing speak, part convenient shorthand for "This is using a method normally used for audio signals".

Incidentally calling baseband fibre connections "broadband" makes me twitch like Inspector Dreyfus.

:goonsay:

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

goddamnedtwisto posted:

You mean single-pair POTS, not PSTN. Bonded v90 could get y

YAWN

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

wiggly eyes!



Games Workshop have started down the sensible path of becoming less litigious when it comes to enforcement of their IP although there's a massive way to go from where they started when they recognised that they could gain sales by being a bit laxer.


Oh, and Johnson was absolutely referring to a trade deal when he talked about the oven ready deal: https://www.standard.co.uk/news/pol...l-a4291046.html. Also London is going into T3 end of next week.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
I blame Kay Burley.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe
https://twitter.com/PAshowbiz/status/1337186300651163648

Bollocks.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

peggy mitchell is actually married to scott mitchell?

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.
there's something to be said for the idea that Brussels is normally quite sympathetic to the need of politicians to find cover at home and instead to let Brussels take the heat - but that this sympathy only extends to politicians perceived to be resolutely pro-European

which, you know, makes sense

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
gently caress europe we can take them

full grant mitchell

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014


As I recall she'd been suffering from severe dementia for years.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


OwlFancier posted:

peggy mitchell is actually married to scott mitchell?

Thoughts & prayers to her sweet babies Grant & Phil.

Breath Ray
Nov 19, 2010

goddamnedtwisto posted:

The only conclusion I can draw is that they're actually *all* that loving stupid, that there's not even a figure hoping to end up like the oligarchs after the collapse of Russia (because unlike Russia we've got gently caress-all primary or secondary industry to sell off for hard currency) and that they actually loving believe the poo poo they're talking

i dont think its stupidity. getting a good deal was never going to enrich anyone too much. consider that supportive MPs have 4 years to at worst get elected to HoL or otherwise earn tens of millions of pounds by yes, buying up stuff in a recession and / or lobbying for the american agriculture sector or what have you and it's clear why they arent resigning en masse at this late stage

Helith
Nov 5, 2009

Basket of Adorables


sinky posted:

Excuse me, it's an Australian-style* deal


*This is basically the WTO deal

Even Australians don't think an Australia style deal is a good idea for you

https://twitter.com/bbcquestiontime/status/1337168402037809152

Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

If you were going to pick a pair of celebrities to die on the same day, Barbara Windsor and Tiny Lister are pulling from very opposite sides of a spectrum.

Still, RIP to both.

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

So what happens in 2 weeks? Will we see the boris government toppled if they can't negotiate a trade deal?

Party Boat
Nov 1, 2007

where did that other dog come from

who is he


Why on earth would that happen

escapegoat
Aug 18, 2013
RIP Tiny Lister: Craig Charles porn dwarf mauled by badgers, only in the Sunday Sport.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

forkboy84 posted:

Thoughts & prayers to her sweet babies Grant & Phil.
And her manchild David.

The Perfect Element
Dec 5, 2005
"This is a bit of a... a poof song"

OwlFancier posted:

peggy mitchell is actually married to scott mitchell?

Dude is also like 30 years younger than her iirc. Fair play, Barbara!

Marmaduke!
May 19, 2009

Why would it do that!?

WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:

So what happens in 2 weeks? Will we see the boris government toppled if they can't negotiate a trade deal?

If they drop under 40% in the polls I will be most surprised

Franks Happy Place
Mar 15, 2011

It is by weed alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the dank of Sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, stains become a warning. It is by weed alone I set my mind in motion.
I know things are very busy right now, what with your country about to commit hari kiri just to spite Polish plumbers (I think I got that right???), but I'm curious if this story has broken through the Brexit noise? Because it's a pretty big deal in the Caribbean right now. And uuh... It's pretty bad.

MJ Biz Daily posted:

The United Kingdom’s representative in the British Virgin Islands (BVI) is facing backlash over his apparent refusal to allow the country to establish a regulated medical cannabis industry.

The country’s elected representatives in June passed the Cannabis Licensing Act, which will open up the sector for commercial opportunities when it becomes law.

However, the governor – as the U.K.’s representative in the BVI – has thus far refused to give the pending law his stamp of approval, called Royal Assent.

For months, Gov. Augustus Jaspert has resisted pressure from local media and politicians to explain why the bill is being held up or even rejected.

Julian Willock, the speaker of the House of Assembly, addressed the issue during a recent session, calling the delay of a bill “an insult.”

“All the speaker is requesting is that the concept of coequal branches of government is put into practice and respected,” Willock said.

The BVI’s Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Office referred queries from Marijuana Business Daily to the governor.

The governor’s office has thus far not answered queries from MJBizDaily regarding the reason for the delay.

Willock also provided some context.

“I went back to look at British history, seeking information about the last time a king or queen refused to give Royal Assent,” the speaker said.

“What I discovered is that in modern times, the monarch, governor generals or governors, will always assent to a bill passed by the people’s house on the advice of the government of the day, as Royal Assent is now considered a formality.”

He said the last time a bill was refused to be assented to in the United Kingdom was more than 300 years ago, when Queen Anne vetoed a bill to arm the Scottish militia in 1708.

The U.K.’s refusal to allow elected representatives in colonies and territories to pass a law is rare and controversial.

The American Declaration of Independence, for example, cites in its list of grievances the refusal of King George III to “assent to laws.”

“It is an insult to this honorable House of Assembly when 13 elected members pass a bill, then an unelected governor could just refuse to assent to a bill without proper explanation,” the BVI Speaker Willock said in the House.

“Many of my fellow speakers in the Parliamentary Commonwealth Association, whom I often converse with, have labeled this behavior as an abuse of power, dictatorship and injustice to the people.”

Courtney Betty, co-author of the Cannabis Licensing Act and adviser to the premier on the development of a regulated medical cannabis industry, told MJBizDaily the governor’s actions raise questions about the role of the monarchy in the British Virgin Islands.

“As clearly outlined by the speaker, there is no precedent within the British Commonwealth framework, even for a territory, for the governor to refuse Royal Assent without any form of legal basis or estimation,” he said. “It’s unprecedented.”

The premier previously called the delay “unnecessary.”

“We hope that there will be no more unnecessary and unsubstantiated delays in getting the BVI’s medical marijuana industry established so that our people can start benefiting from this new initiative,” Premier Andrew Fahie said in November.

The U.K. is home to London-based GW Pharmaceuticals, whose 3.2 million square feet of cannabis growing facilities make it one of the world’s largest producers of medical cannabis.

I believe you folks refer to this as a cock-up, yes?

Wes D.
Jul 17, 2006

WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:

So what happens in 2 weeks? Will we see the boris government toppled if they can't negotiate a trade deal?

Chaos. And it's already starting. We have two huge machines in Germany (and another 2 finishing build for next week) that are ready for delivery to the customer...except NO ONE will take the job. Because of the current logjams at the crossings none of our logistic supply line is willing to take on the job. Oh wait sorry, we had one guy willing to assign a truck but he wanted £5k up front and an agreement in principal or something that any delays from standard timeline are paid for i.e. if the truck sits idle for 3 days waiting for processing we pay for that.

And of course our SMT are saying that we absolutely cannot take on any additional transport costs, but we also absolutely must not short delivery dates on capital equipment.

Our field servicing is based around service contracts where we go in and change over wear parts at intervals to keep the meat moving. We've already seen massive COVID disruptions, can't wait till we get to a point that a service is required but guess what, no loving parts here, they all in Germany! gently caress Brexit.

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!
You love to see it.

https://twitter.com/EuropeStreet/status/1337313673371656192

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




Random question. I've just noticed that I'm not paying anything for broadband. I'm on Three and on a rolling monthly contract. It was all fixed payments until September when they paid me £30, and from then they've been billing me for £0.00 a month. Service hasn't been interrupted in any way and I've had no correspondence saying anything's up.

You reckon just sit on it and wait for them to realise something's up?

Soricidus
Oct 21, 2010
freedom-hating statist shill

WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:

So what happens in 2 weeks? Will we see the boris government toppled if they can't negotiate a trade deal?

No, we’ll see the ~blitz spirit~ shining through as we all unite against our common enemy, those foreign bastards

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Franks Happy Place posted:

I know things are very busy right now, what with your country about to commit hari kiri just to spite Polish plumbers (I think I got that right???), but I'm curious if this story has broken through the Brexit noise? Because it's a pretty big deal in the Caribbean right now. And uuh... It's pretty bad.
The last time that the British media gave a single solitary poo poo about Britain still owning parts of the Caribbean was when the volcano blew on Montserrat and the Royal Navy eventually went in and rescued a bunch of people and brought them to mainland Britain, and even then it was in the terms of "why do we have to help them? can't Jamaica or someone help them? we're letting everyone in now!" so I guarantee that 99% of the British press don't give a drat about our rank offshore hypocrisy.

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

Sounds like the British Virgin Islands need to Take Back Control. Only actually because all the islands should be their own countries completely rather than ruled by the UK.

Necrothatcher posted:

Random question. I've just noticed that I'm not paying anything for broadband. I'm on Three and on a rolling monthly contract. It was all fixed payments until September when they paid me £30, and from then they've been billing me for £0.00 a month. Service hasn't been interrupted in any way and I've had no correspondence saying anything's up.

You reckon just sit on it and wait for them to realise something's up?

The intelligence services are actively monitoring you and asking Three to keep you connected.

namesake fucked around with this message at 10:34 on Dec 11, 2020

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008
Remember that Boris' job at this point is to be the 'man' whom everyone can blame for Brexit and Covid, so that when the rest of the Tories band together to throw him out the window (politically-speaking), whoever takes over as PM (Gove) can simply point to Boris Johnson, ex-Prime Minister and say "We've dealt with the problem, now we're moving on".

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Franks Happy Place posted:

I know things are very busy right now, what with your country about to commit hari kiri just to spite Polish plumbers (I think I got that right???), but I'm curious if this story has broken through the Brexit noise? Because it's a pretty big deal in the Caribbean right now. And uuh... It's pretty bad.


I believe you folks refer to this as a cock-up, yes?

The only language brits understand is violence

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear

Yer mate but kms are tiny and they don't even exist in birtain no more i think you'll find - get your facts right m8 :manning:

Tsietisin
Jul 2, 2004

Time passes quickly on the weekend.

Necrothatcher posted:

Random question. I've just noticed that I'm not paying anything for broadband. I'm on Three and on a rolling monthly contract. It was all fixed payments until September when they paid me £30, and from then they've been billing me for £0.00 a month. Service hasn't been interrupted in any way and I've had no correspondence saying anything's up.

You reckon just sit on it and wait for them to realise something's up?

I had something similar happen with my and BT a few years back. No matter how much I used the phone or where those calls were going, each month my bill would show as being £47.46p in credit. For about a year I paid nothing. I had friends come over to make long international phone calls on my number and at no point did they ever show up on the bill.

After about 6 months I called BT to say, hey there's an error. They advised me that there was no issue with my line, so I left it at that. Eventually I did start having to pay again but they never asked for any of the money from the prior year.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

Necrothatcher posted:

Random question. I've just noticed that I'm not paying anything for broadband. I'm on Three and on a rolling monthly contract. It was all fixed payments until September when they paid me £30, and from then they've been billing me for £0.00 a month. Service hasn't been interrupted in any way and I've had no correspondence saying anything's up.

You reckon just sit on it and wait for them to realise something's up?

Put the money in a pot because you might get a big retroactive bill... otherwise I'd just sit on it

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




Thanks all. I've been doing some research and apparently this isn't that uncommon with Three as their billing department is all hosed up right now. Going to wait for them to figure it out.

Lungboy
Aug 23, 2002

NEED SQUAT FORM HELP

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

Put the money in a pot because you might get a big retroactive bill... otherwise I'd just sit on it

Yeah this. Plusnet messed up our bill in August and refunded some money and since then haven't taken any payments so we're making sure we don't spend it in case they demand it back, which they are entitled to do for several years iirc.

OzyMandrill
Aug 12, 2013

Look upon my words
and despair


30% of Felixstowe is apparently full of unused PPE, bought on extravagant government contracts, but not actually distributed. So it is sitting there. Some of it has been there since August. Meanwhile, my friend (a cardiac nurse) has had to put up with masks that expired over 5 years ago.

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Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/dec/11/no-deal-brexit-likeliest-ursula-von-der-leyen-eu-leaders

No deal Brexit's on for sure then, get a big delivery in of essentials, toiletries and booze if you can and get ready to ride out the next few months in a blissful stupor.

I wonder what insult it was that Boris eventually stammered out to make the EU roll their eyes and go "okay, gently caress it, we officially give up".

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