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Testekill posted:I will always remember starting a match and immediately busting open my opponent with a yakuza kick. It's one of my favorite wrestling game memories because it's such a huge start to the match. i did this in 2k19 once and it was immediately reversed and initiated squash match mode for my opponent, takeshi morishima. i ate two backdrop drivers and was immediately pinned.
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JOHN CENA posted:i did this in 2k19 once and it was immediately reversed and initiated squash match mode for my opponent, takeshi morishima. i ate two backdrop drivers and was immediately pinned. That just sounds like good AI for Morishima.
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Maxwell Lord posted:Anyway Spike Chunsoft's having a Midweek Madness sale on Steam, you can get Fire Pro for $6 and all the DLC's discounted pretty heavily too.
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Cavauro posted:there are a few heroes in this thread saying the 'game play' will mean everything, and they are right
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The Kins posted:I mean, it's being made by Yuke's. They don't have a history of quality even outside of their one-year-deadline wrestling games. Their non wwe games were fine
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Yuke's was building upon one thing each year for 100 years. you can't re-do it from there with 8 and 9 month dev cycles. it's easy enough to play something or see it being played before saying it really sucks bad. this game could be more like their berserk game on dreamcast than day of reckoning on the gamecube, or vice versa
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The Kins posted:I mean, it's being made by Yuke's. They don't have a history of quality even outside of their one-year-deadline wrestling games. In favour of Yukes, Day of Reckoning was fun, I really enjoyed the last of the UFC games they worked on (the one that let me use soccer kicks & knees to the head of a grounded opponent & stomps). Never played the Wrestle Kingdom games. That's about as positive as I can be. Maybe they will actually get to fix the hosed up things by getting to build a new engine from scratch but eh. I'm not overly optimistic.
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KungFu Grip posted:Their non wwe games were fine As best I can tell, the main issues have always been the crunch and having to build on top of the same PS1-era engine like a bizarre ROM hack over and over for two decades. Sure, Yuke's isn't blameless (the stories of the initial builds always having the same bugs every year) and there's clearly some weird poo poo that goes on there (bootlegging the SmackDown games in Japan for years even though they had no publishing license for them; they were just the dev team). But even though it's been a long time, they've absolutely shown that they can make quality wrestling games away from the constraints of Frankensteining SmackDown for the PS1 into an annual series across four different console generations. Also,n that reminds me: Has it ever been explained why SmackDown was built off of Pro Wrestling Simple Series instead of Toukon Retsuden? From the start, the series was doomed, because it was built off of a dumbed down wrestling game for novice gamers, not the far superior NJPW games.
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JOHN CENA posted:gaijin dont deserve good game
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davidbix posted:As were the WWE Day of Reckoning games, which were pretty clearly designed to play like the AKI games, but with far superior collision detection. (The best collision detection of any wrestling games to date, even in 2020.) The collision detection is almost too good. every four man match results in everyone taking naps like a triple h/undertaker showdown.
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Also some of the worst cage match logic, for a match type that is basically always poo poo in games.
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Angry_Ed posted:Also some of the worst cage match logic, for a match type that is basically always poo poo in games. At least the AI won't have to worry about the escape the cage stip in AEW cage matches.
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It would be interesting to see a wrestling game that manages to do the goofier match types well.
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Maxwell Lord posted:It would be interesting to see a wrestling game that manages to do the goofier match types well. Here Comes the Pain
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davidbix posted:Well, that WOULD also explain why World Tour was a gutted version of VPW 64... I'm pretty optimistic about the AEW game. While I obviously would've loved to see the old AKI Corporation logo in the presentation, that was realistically never going to happen and we're getting the next best thing* - the developers of Here Comes the Pain and Day of Reckoning, with one of the old AKI designers on board. Even though Yuke's has been toiling away in the THQ/2K salt mines for years now, they know how to make wrestling games and I'm quite excited to see what they can do with this one. *the actual next best thing may or may not have been an AEW-themed King of Colosseum
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Is there a good place to post requests (as in not to make but to find a similar move) requests for Fire Pro. I'm working on a dumb thing and having trouble finding some more esoteric moves. I'm to the point where I'll buy steam gift cards for people to make certain moves.
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Cavauro posted:the new game takes a large amount of inspiration from the aew mod for no mercy. Wait I used to pay attention to No Mercy mods But i haven't but now i need to again
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Angry_Ed posted:Also some of the worst cage match logic, for a match type that is basically always poo poo in games. Is there a good cage match in any wrestling game? They were absolutely dreadful in No Mercy and I'd say in a few of the Smackdown/WWE '# games the best they ever got was "generally inoffensive." It's wild because ladder matches are generally pretty fun as long as the ladder has some weight to it, despite also being about climbing something to win.
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I hate modern ladder matches because they always end with me failing some stupid rear end mini game, falling, not getting up in time, and watching the computer nail the mini game perfectly. I hope to god there is not mini games to kick outs in the AEW game. Astro7x fucked around with this message at 04:14 on Nov 13, 2020 |
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the Saltybet like Fire Pro Wrestling stream updated with actual bets (with fake money) for matches now https://twitch.tv/saltysuplex
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Oh hey you can subscribe to Chuck Taylor on Twitch now https://www.twitch.tv/chuckietea1
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If anyone wants to fart around and chat wrestling (or whatever) a few nights a week, I do some streaming here: https://twitch.tv/gansobomb_ I'm playing exclusively N64 wrestling games for now and am just about to finish WCW vs nWo: World Tour. I played through Revenge first, and I'll follow up with Wrestlemania 2000, No Mercy, and then maybe some of the Japanese games if I can get my hands on them. I have a copy of Brave Spirits but I'm thinking of picking up Virtual Pro Wrestling as well. Currently my schedule is Monday & Thursday at 8:30 ET/7:30 CT and Saturday at 6:05 ET/5:05 CT to keep with the WCW theme. I'll probably keep that schedule, though, because it's been working out pretty well for me.
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KungFu Grip posted:the Saltybet like Fire Pro Wrestling stream updated with actual bets (with fake money) for matches now It seems like there's a lot less wrestlers nowadays. It feels like some wrestlers show up multiple times in an hour. Armitage fucked around with this message at 20:35 on Dec 1, 2020 |
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punchdaily posted:Is there a good cage match in any wrestling game? They were absolutely dreadful in No Mercy and I'd say in a few of the Smackdown/WWE '# games the best they ever got was "generally inoffensive." The cage match in WWE Battle Grounds is won by collecting bags of money that randomly appear on the cage. Once you get enough money in your sack you can escape the cage. It's completely bizarre and also how Vince probably plans to make the wrestlers fight for their paychecks in 2021.
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Tato posted:It's completely bizarre and also how Vince probably plans to make the wrestlers fight for their paychecks in 2021.
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I streamed no mercy a few times and I love this poo poo. I’ll try to stop by Thursday to share my endless wrestling and wrestling game knowledge.
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punchdaily posted:Is there a good cage match in any wrestling game? They were absolutely dreadful in No Mercy and I'd say in a few of the Smackdown/WWE '# games the best they ever got was "generally inoffensive." You'd have to do something to make it so that trying immediately to escape is a bad strat, and the AI's also a consideration. Like in Fire Pro it's sort of a foregone conclusion once a wrestler is high enough, you can only shake so much and you can't climb fast enough to really intercept them. I feel it requires some level of abstraction without taking you completely out of the "fight" part of the fight.
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The quality of MDickie’s game aside, that was an amazing trailer. Dare I say one of the best I’ve ever seen. I’ll give him money again just to feed his insanity. There’s a certain kind of fun to had with his games anyway.
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Fly Ricky posted:The quality of MDickie’s game aside, that was an amazing trailer. Dare I say one of the best I’ve ever seen. MDickie is an utter madman but his wrestling games are never boring.
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Is there a new Mdickie joint coming to PC as well or is that a port of a current PC game I should go buy today?
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Fly Ricky posted:The quality of MDickie’s game aside, that was an amazing trailer. Dare I say one of the best I’ve ever seen. mdickie is unironically the true video game artist, just completely incomprehensible except for the most enlightened
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I'll never forget being an early 20 something year old and coming across the Mdickie wrestling game and being freaked out and really surprised when one of my wrestlers lost an arm during a match. I'm always willing to pay and give his games a chance. Except that Jesus one.
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I played one for IPad a bunch and I think the fake CM Punk died of an overdose in my first season.
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Fly Ricky posted:The quality of MDickie’s game aside, that was an amazing trailer. Dare I say one of the best I’ve ever seen. They may be incredibly flawed pieces of software, but they're consistently a fun time.
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