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mystes posted:You really should only remove it after you reboot and make sure the new one works, after which it's conveniently not the running kernel. if the new one doesnt work i just revert the whole root subvolume to a previous btrfs snapshot, and this has only been necessary for this reason like once in the last 10 years
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anything cool and new in the Linux world folks?
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Silver Alicorn posted:anything cool and new in the Linux world folks? Sound works now.
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DoomTrainPhD posted:??? How is it living in 2008 with 64MB of NAND flash? It's ok, tbf it's easier to do in place kernel upgrades than change the disk, because if something went wrong upgrading the kernel, the recovery process would basically be the same as changing the disk
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DoomTrainPhD posted:Sound works now. no way
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DoomTrainPhD posted:Sound works now. really? I haven’t heard that
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Silver Alicorn posted:anything cool and new in the Linux world folks? they killed off the distro a large subset of people in this thread were using and recommending lol
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Does Scientific Linux still exist? It was basically same thing...
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Sassafras posted:Does Scientific Linux still exist? It was basically same thing... no, they didn’t do an 8 because they didn’t want to duplicate work on centos 8 lol
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eschaton posted:really? I haven’t heard that 
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The_Franz posted:my favorite debian experience was running apt-get update and having it uninstall the kernel lol I had this happen once years ago
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on aws i just use amazon linux 2. downstream from fedora, has SSM agent already installed, who gives a poo poo aye
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The future of enterprise linux is Gentoo, folks
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Amazon linux 2 afaict is centos 7 but half of epel doesn’t work, plus their own extras repo with its own special snowflake cli because reasons it’s ... fine, as long as you want your linux to be as proprietary as possible
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Soricidus posted:Amazon linux 2 afaict is centos 7 but half of epel doesn’t work, plus their own extras repo with its own special snowflake cli because reasons * Caldera has entered the chat
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looks like the most stable linux platform is actually wsl2 on windows server. i don't make the rules.
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the purpose of amazon linux is to be a base for the eks ami so it doesn't matter if epel works or not
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Nomnom Cookie posted:the purpose of amazon linux is to be a base for the eks ami so it doesn't matter if epel works or not it existed way before eks lol
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carry on then posted:looks like the most stable linux platform is actually wsl2 on windows server. i don't make the rules. unfortunately wsl2 does not save you from having to pick a distro
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DoomTrainPhD posted:Ubuntu LTS is now the server distro of choice
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DoomTrainPhD posted:Ubuntu LTS has always been the server distro of choice
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DoomTrainPhD posted:Ubuntu LTS is now the server distro of choice
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Why the hell does the ghost of Steve Jobs' UNIX not support unnamed POSIX semaphores? Certified UNIX my rear end, apparently you can get certified by ignoring everything optional. It doesn't take me long to write my own non-shared version with mutexes and condition variables, but what a bizarre omission.
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Athas posted:Why the hell does the ghost of Steve Jobs' UNIX not support unnamed POSIX semaphores? Certified UNIX my rear end, apparently you can get certified by ignoring everything optional. It doesn't take me long to write my own non-shared version with mutexes and condition variables, but what a bizarre omission. Well, what did you think optional means on something they only did for the checkbox?
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Athas posted:Why the hell does the ghost of Steve Jobs' UNIX not support unnamed POSIX semaphores? Certified UNIX my rear end, apparently you can get certified by ignoring everything optional. It doesn't take me long to write my own non-shared version with mutexes and condition variables, but what a bizarre omission. just use mach semaphores?
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Athas posted:Why the hell does the ghost of Steve Jobs' UNIX not support unnamed POSIX semaphores? Certified UNIX my rear end, apparently you can get certified by ignoring everything optional. It doesn't take me long to write my own non-shared version with mutexes and condition variables, but what a bizarre omission. sounds like a good thing to file feedback on, especially since this is the sort of thing that can have implications for performance (e.g. risk of priority inversion and so on)
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The_Franz posted:just use mach
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The_Franz posted:just use mach semaphores? Do they work on the majority of POSIX systems?
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Athas posted:Do they work on the majority of POSIX systems? neither do unnamed semaphores apparently. whats your point bitch
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Athas posted:Do they work on the majority of POSIX systems? you won’t care
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Soricidus posted:you won’t care They don't even work on Linux, which is the most important OS (POS or otherwise). Even Windows with WSL is a better Unix than macOS these days. When I teach Unix programming to undergrads it's pretty obvious that the Windows people have to put in some effort to get a usable environment (so they install WSL or VirtualBox in the old days), but macOS looks just usable enough until you scratch the surface, and basic tools like valgrind are not available and qsort_r has a weird type.
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