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There's only like 10 last names in Manitoba so that list must be fake
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Fried Watermelon posted:There's only like 10 last names in Manitoba so that list must be fake https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PD3NNOyP90&t=48s
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Dec 11, 2020 17:25
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DariusLikewise posted:i found a list of the 2023 manitoba pc mls Most of those last names sounds too unwhite to be PC MLs.
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Dec 11, 2020 20:54
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DariusLikewise posted:senator dumbass you're gonna have to be more precise about which Honorable Member of Our Chamber of Sober Second Thought you're talking about here
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Dec 11, 2020 21:03
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Without even looking I'm going with Beyak
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Dec 11, 2020 21:29
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flakeloaf posted:Without even looking I'm going with Beyak Samesies. Gotta be. Edit: I couldn't find who it was but I did find this. https://twitter.com/ruthmkb/status/1336455766996365314?s=19 Goosed it. has issued a correction as of 01:24 on Dec 12, 2020 |
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Dec 12, 2020 01:21
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flakeloaf posted:Without even looking I'm going with Beyak
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Dec 12, 2020 01:21
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We should take this opportunity to remove every senator from the Senate. And then remove the Senate from the country.
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drat horror queefs posted:We should take this opportunity to remove every senator from the Senate. QFT
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Dec 12, 2020 03:44
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How the hell did she even get appointed as a senator, anyhow? Like, there's nothing in her CV that would indicate any talent or aptitude for senatoring. Yes, I know it's a sinecure, but she's a two-time failed candidate for MLA and a car dealer.
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Dec 12, 2020 04:59
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Albino Squirrel posted:How the hell did she even get appointed as a senator, anyhow? Like, there's nothing in her CV that would indicate any talent or aptitude for senatoring. Yes, I know it's a sinecure, but she's a two-time failed candidate for MLA and a car dealer. https://i.imgur.com/FfUdRPW.mp4
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Dec 12, 2020 05:29
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OK yes I KNOW HE'S EVIL AND BAD. But! There's no shortage of conservatives with at least a nominal gloss of civic-mindedness. Like one of the people who was appointed with her was a lawyer who was on the board of the University of Calgary and past-president at the Banff Centre. That's the kind of resume that senators usually have, you know, the kind of conservative that will embrace the banality of evil and perpetuate the system but at least provide a smiling face and a veneer of competence. Appointing a bigoted
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Albino Squirrel posted:Appointing a bigoted Why hide it? The only thing a Canadian conservative politician needs to hide is the fact that they're essentially the same as the Liberals as far as most policies goes.
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/prince-edward-island/pei-cerb-benefits-payback-macdonald-casey-1.5838395quote:P.E.I. woman asked to repay $18,500 in CERB benefits by year-end
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Dec 12, 2020 15:13
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there's going to be a whole lot of that by april/may plus all the people who didn't realize they still have to pay income tax on CERB. dollars to donuts at no point will anyone in the liberal government seriously consider debt forgiveness, and the CRA will continue to go after only the smallest of the small fry. because, while they may not have an enforcement budget, it doesn't take anything to collect from people who can't afford tax lawyers
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Dec 12, 2020 15:18
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it’s such garbage. we have here someone legitimately trying to contribute to society and because she didn’t make enough money, she doesn’t deserve help. loving appalling.
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Dec 12, 2020 15:28
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it's not like the CRA needs the money or anything. the government can print as much money as it wants. they are harassing this woman because preserving the social hierarchy is more important than preserving peoples lives in a pandemic its utterly disgusting
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Dec 12, 2020 15:33
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Rutibex posted:it's not like the CRA needs the money or anything. the government can print as much money as it wants. i'd say that's debatable*, but there are also all kinds of tax revenues they could be collecting that aren't grabbing change from the nearly-destitute *at the very least the liberal government we have is not about to just go hog wild inflating the dollar to pay for poo poo
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Dec 12, 2020 15:36
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infernal machines posted:i'd say that's debatable*, but there are also all kinds of tax revenues they could be collecting that aren't grabbing change from the nearly-destitute printing money doesn't cause inflation, the US Fed has proven that. the people at the top clearly believe in Modern Monetary Theory, i don't see why i cant and besides that, the government doesn't "need" to control inflation the same way a human "needs" to buy groceries. controlling inflation is the same goal as preserving the social hierarchy, just redefined Rutibex has issued a correction as of 15:44 on Dec 12, 2020 |
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Dec 12, 2020 15:41
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okay. i'd still suggest that as long as we're buying stuff from the americans the value of the canadian dollar relative to other currencies still matters to us.
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Dec 12, 2020 15:47
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Rutibex posted:printing money doesn't cause inflation, the US Fed has proven that. the people at the top clearly believe in Modern Monetary Theory, i don't see why i cant The US dollar can do that because American foreign policy is designed around generating as much artificial demand for the dollar as possible.
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In light of stories like this https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/cews-wage-subsidy-jobs-covid-1.5834790 I think we can let this woman’s cake business off the hook for tanking the value of the dollar.
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Dec 12, 2020 20:07
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also giving poor/middle class people money is the literal opposite of causing inflation
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yippee cahier posted:In light of stories like this https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/cews-wage-subsidy-jobs-covid-1.5834790 I think we can let this woman’s cake business off the hook for tanking the value of the dollar. cake lady should have hired 10 "new employees" and become a millionaire. then she could afford a lawyer
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Dec 13, 2020 05:00
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mediaphage posted:it’s such garbage. we have here someone legitimately trying to contribute to society and because she didn’t make enough money, she doesn’t deserve help. I'm a bit skeptical of the idea that these people are some desperate low income household. They live off the husband's income and he didn't lose his job, so their income dropped by less than 5k and they collected 18.5k on CERB. If they actually needed that much money to pay their bills this year then she was vastly underreporting her income and/or overreporting her expenses in 2019. The reason for the 5k net income restriction was to filter out the people running vanity businesses, and it sounds like that might be the situation here.
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Dec 13, 2020 09:12
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tbh losing $4-500 a month out of now where could be pretty devastating. either way not my place to say that she wasn’t building a business fast enough. i do wonder if we’d be so quick to call it a vanity business if it wasn’t a woman baking cakes. i’d argue though that they didn’t do a good enough job detailing restrictions like that. the article itself intimates that it was pretty unclear. canada can afford it. it’s a waste of time and goodwill to go after poo poo like this in the current hellscape when you could recoup all of it with a couple fewer business grants.
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Dec 13, 2020 12:21
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Nickel and diming this type of stuff when every tech company in Canada is abusing the poo poo out of grants like SR&ED and paying 35% of their pricey engineer's salary with government money is very on brand for Canada.
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Dec 13, 2020 14:25
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enki42 posted:Nickel and diming this type of stuff when every tech company in Canada is abusing the poo poo out of grants like SR&ED and paying 35% of their pricey engineer's salary with government money is very on brand for Canada. Only one tech company I've worked at does SRED because it's intentionally convoluted and you need specialists to apply for it successfully. It sucked working there because you need to document everything in a special SRED way that dominates the entire business. xtal has issued a correction as of 15:00 on Dec 13, 2020 |
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Dec 13, 2020 14:54
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Doing SRED was my least favourite part of the year every year, basically some consultant sitting down with you asking you to figure out a way to make it look like you invented something when your job is just coordinating open source libraries and implementing software best practices. Like, bro we're a web design and development agency, we don't invent anything. Still managed to get tens of thousands of dollars every year. It does sound like this lady was running a vanity business, not because she was baking cakes, but because she was making very little money. That being said who cares, they should've just given that money to everyone and then those of us who didn't need it could pay it back at tax time. Giving money to poor and middle class people does a lot more for the economy than giving it to companies who disperse it as dividends. Would be interesting to know how many MPs hold shares in the companies that were doing that.
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prom candy posted:That being said who cares, they should've just given that money to everyone and then those of us who didn't need it could pay it back at tax time. they can't just make it an unqualified benefit for every canadian, even temporarily. it would be far to easy to point to some statistics and say "look at this COVID relief program that gave everyone $2000 per month, during the 6 month period poverty and homelessness decreased by 95%. maybe it should be permanent?" they had to make sure that the lowest of the low people could not get access, because it would prove they are being woefully under served by our welfare system
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mediaphage posted:tbh losing $4-500 a month out of now where could be pretty devastating. either way not my place to say that she wasn't building a business fast enough. i do wonder if we'd be so quick to call it a vanity business if it wasn't a woman baking cakes. It's a vanity business because they were apparently fine living almost entirely off of her spouse's income and she could have earned the same amount working ~8 hours a week at a minimum wage job. If you were told up front that her spouse is an anesthesiologist or something, would you be upset that she had to pay back the CERB payments? Rutibex posted:they can't just make it an unqualified benefit for every canadian, even temporarily. it would be far to easy to point to some statistics and say "look at this COVID relief program that gave everyone $2000 per month, during the 6 month period poverty and homelessness decreased by 95%. maybe it should be permanent?" You're getting mad about upper middle class families having to pay back the CERB they collected when they didn't need it. Most low income households have people stuck working 1-3 min wage retail jobs, not running a tiny bespoke cake business. Rich people start these little business to avoid paying taxes on a bunch of poo poo they were going to buy anyways, and some of them used them to collect CERB money they didn't need. It's basically like you said, the people who got screwed over by CERB are the ones who needed it but didn't get it, and a lot of them are going to be in corner case situations where they just started in a job but didn't have enough time to accrue 5k in income yet. This couple was always going to have to pay back most of what they got from it under any sane system, and they were always going to whine about it.
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Dec 13, 2020 17:09
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yes actually. anyone who wasn’t working should have been able to get cerb with no take backs. i don’t care frankly what their normal salary was. also grossing $5k from a small cake business ain’t nothing, that’s quite a bit of work. how do we know what her net income was? we don’t. i think you guys are being pretty dismissive of building a business because one person already had a salary so they were “just fine”. just because not enough people got benefits doesn’t mean this person who you guys have decided is just running a vanity business for funsies (would a male freelance developer in the same case who said he was setting out to build his own agency have been accused of running a vanity business if his wife had a job? i legit don’t think so) doesn’t mean that this isn’t also problematic.
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Dec 13, 2020 17:32
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xtal posted:Only one tech company I've worked at does SRED because it's intentionally convoluted and you need specialists to apply for it successfully. It sucked working there because you need to document everything in a special SRED way that dominates the entire business. There's a big industry of people whose job it is to sit in with a VP of eng, have them talk about what they did in the past year for 2 hours, and then wrap it in so much jargon that you could justify that your office administrator was eligible for SR&ED. Most of them these days have tools that can scour through GitHub / JIRA / whatever to get the evidence that they need too.
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mediaphage posted:yes actually. anyone who wasn’t working should have been able to get cerb with no take backs. i don’t care frankly what their normal salary was. I think the point is that if the woman's whole salary for 2019 was less than $5k then it doesn't really make sense that the pandemic would have caused an $18.5k gap in their household income. CERB and CEWS were intended to help people who lost income lost due to the pandemic, and to do that you have to show that you made an income of at least $5k in 2019 (or the proceeding 12 months). I support UBI. I think it would be great if that were the approach the government took, but they didn't. I have a close family member in a similar position but who decided not to apply because they didn't feel right taking government money that would well exceed the income they would have generated.
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jettisonedstuff posted:You're getting mad about upper middle class families having to pay back the CERB they collected when they didn't need it. Most low income households have people stuck working 1-3 min wage retail jobs, not running a tiny bespoke cake business. Rich people start these little business to avoid paying taxes on a bunch of poo poo they were going to buy anyways, and some of them used them to collect CERB money they didn't need. I would rather have ten thousand people collect CERB that they don't need than risk a single person in this country be denied the CERB that they do need.
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jettisonedstuff posted:It's basically like you said, the people who got screwed over by CERB are the ones who needed it but didn't get it, and a lot of them are going to be in corner case situations where they just started in a job but didn't have enough time to accrue 5k in income yet. This couple was always going to have to pay back most of what they got from it under any sane system, and they were always going to whine about it. If "a lot of them are going to be in corner case situations" then they're not corner cases.
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Fashionable Jorts posted:I would rather have ten thousand people collect CERB that they don't need than risk a single person in this country be denied the CERB that they do need. 100%
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Dec 13, 2020 18:07
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yeah it sucked getting laid off before covid and not being able to collect, although my wife's work was deemed essential so we weren't exactly in need.
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I collected regular ei until regular ei ran out then applied for cerb and got it for two weeks then applied for the second round of cerb
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