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Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Johnny Aztec posted:

Thrift store find today:

JVC HR-3300U VCR


Not the one I bought, but otherwise same model. I stole the picture from here: http://vintageelectronics.betamaxcollectors.com/jvcvhsvcrmodelhr-3300u.html It has more pictures as well.

Says that this model was the FIRST one to be sold in the USA. Weighs a fuckton.

I'm looking at the knobs on the right... is it also a VHF/UHF TV receiver? Neat, if so.

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Plinkey
Aug 4, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Pham Nuwen posted:

I'm looking at the knobs on the right... is it also a VHF/UHF TV receiver? Neat, if so.

old receivers/tuners used to have VHF/UHF built in too so that you could 'listen' to tv, much like you can listen to CNN or MSNBC on something like tunein.com

I swear that my grandpa had one of these in his flower shop in like the late 80s and it was old at that point, unless I'm completely forgetting how it worked

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

We've got one of these in my sons room, they are great with a Philips Hue, they do collect dust though.
You have to be reeeeeeal sure they are secured to your ceiling well, making them pop open takes a decent amount of force

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

I've seen some people turn them remote controlled with an Xbee or similar and an RC servo.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Automatic Radio making plant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QHizDkrFqg

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

peter gabriel posted:

We've got one of these in my sons room, they are great with a Philips Hue, they do collect dust though.
You have to be reeeeeeal sure they are secured to your ceiling well, making them pop open takes a decent amount of force

The one with the copper-colored internals is much cooler than the white one, and it looks like IKEA reintroduced that one because it was unavailable at some point.

90s Solo Cup
Feb 22, 2011

To understand the cup
He must become the cup



SCheeseman posted:

I miss big chunky buttons on my electronics. kerPLUNK.

Those large, chunky rotary dials on that VCR remind me of the ones on my grandparents' old TV.

Bonus points if you've ever had to use vice grips to change channels after one of the dials broke.

Imagined
Feb 2, 2007

90s Solo Cup posted:

Those large, chunky rotary dials on that VCR remind me of the ones on my grandparents' old TV.

Bonus points if you've ever had to use vice grips to change channels after one of the dials broke.

Bonus points if instead of replacing the plastic dial quickly while the post was still the right grooved shape, you just kept using the vice grips until the post was crushed smooth and a replacement dial would no longer fit.

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

Imagined posted:

Bonus points if instead of replacing the plastic dial quickly while the post was still the right grooved shape, you just kept using the vice grips until the post was crushed smooth and a replacement dial would no longer fit.

See, that's why you just leave the vise grips clamped onto the stem all the time, instead of clamping and releasing every time.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


We had a ceiling fan dial that was the same size as the TV dial. Of course my parents didn't buy a new dial instead opting to pull it off the fan switch and vice versa.

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Trabant
Nov 26, 2011

All systems nominal.
Because Techmoan is a thread favourite, even if this isn't really a topic for the thread. A chocolate record, timestamped to the :stonklol: part:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZmWS1ER-z0&t=391s

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Trabant posted:

Because Techmoan is a thread favourite, even if this isn't really a topic for the thread. A chocolate record, timestamped to the :stonklol: part:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZmWS1ER-z0&t=391s

I've never figured out what the beeps are at the end of every episode.

fappenmeister
Nov 19, 2004

My hand wields the might

This was the VHS player I remember as a kid.



And I remember the Betamax that was laying around the house too, the model in the pic below. When it was unplugged, I used to open the front flap and tune the settings knobs with the little plastic tool that was stored in the flap.
Apologies if it's big, phone posting.


My aunt used to work at a production company when I was small, and there was a bag full of Betamax tapes stashed at my house. In the mid/late 90s, once I hit my teens, I went through them, and they were mostly lovely horror. I think The Godsend was one of them?

ishikabibble
Jan 21, 2012

Humphreys posted:

I've never figured out what the beeps are at the end of every episode.

He has it in the description of every video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M3-ZV5-QDM

Loxbourne
Apr 6, 2011

Tomorrow, doom!
But now, tea.

Kamrat posted:

For late 90's stuff I found that vmware works fine for me, but it's not perfect at all so it's good to have a retro-pc handy for those cases when it doesn't work well.

I have this old game that I only ever got to run on windows XP sp2 for some reason and it's unpopular enough that I didn't manage to find a fix for it on the internet so I have a vmware setup just for that game. As I understand it it's the DRM that doesn't want to run on anything else and I never managed to find a crack for the game or even that specific version of the DRM.

loving hate DRM, all it ever does is gently caress over the legitimate users. :/

Edit: I even bought a second copy of the game because I thought my version was broken but no, it has the same issue.

I think we all have our retrogaming white whales. Mine is Interplay's unfinished crock of a Star Trek RTS, New Worlds. Completely forgotten by the industry, and doesn't run on anything unless you go to huge amounts of effort. I've tried a few times but never gotten past the title screen.

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

Der Kyhe posted:

The one with the copper-colored internals is much cooler than the white one, and it looks like IKEA reintroduced that one because it was unavailable at some point.

I got the silver as it was always gonna have a Phillips Hue bulb in it, can have any colour at all (and I can turn his lights off with my phone :lol: )

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

ishikabibble posted:

He has it in the description of every video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M3-ZV5-QDM

Whoever did the sound design was pretty savvy IMOH.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


ishikabibble posted:

He has it in the description of every video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M3-ZV5-QDM

Well drat, I've NEVER noticed that. Thanks! I did spend far to long sampling it to feed into Morse and other datatypes getting nowhere.

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Shrieking Muppet
Jul 16, 2006

LifeSunDeath posted:

yes, and it's really interesting. really went into very specifics about the history of fabrication/installation of bugging equipment, and loads of other stuff.

this was an officially sanctioned book with forward from a former CIA director, so it didn't paint their activity in a bad light, but explained pretty clearly that what they were doing was illegal as hell (if they get caught).

So I was going to request this from the Boston library but the only book version they have is in Chinese. :tinfoil:

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

Shrieking Muppet posted:

So I was going to request this from the Boston library but the only book version they have is in Chinese. :tinfoil:

it's not super useful for modern spying, but interesting sure.

Porfiriato
Jan 4, 2016


Relevant to thread is another book by one of the authors of that Spycraft book:

The Secret History of KGB Spy Cameras: 1945–1995 which he wrote with a couple of retired KGB officers. It's thoroughly illustrated with all kinds of crazy wearable/concealable still photo and movie cameras, and a fair number of anecdotes that start with "so I was wandering around a flea market in Khabarovsk in the early 90s and..." Just all kinds of really ingenious technology rendered completely obsolete by a cellphone's built-in camera (and digital cameras in general).

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

Porfiriato posted:

Relevant to thread is another book by one of the authors of that Spycraft book:

The Secret History of KGB Spy Cameras: 1945–1995 which he wrote with a couple of retired KGB officers. It's thoroughly illustrated with all kinds of crazy wearable/concealable still photo and movie cameras, and a fair number of anecdotes that start with "so I was wandering around a flea market in Khabarovsk in the early 90s and..." Just all kinds of really ingenious technology rendered completely obsolete by a cellphone's built-in camera (and digital cameras in general).

what is incredible in those books is that people had to train to know from muscle memory where the focus plane for those cameras was. No viewfinder, no tripod, nothing, so imagine when you're trying to get a good close up of something with a camera phone, and like it's off center unless you're looking at it and lining it up...but you just have to get it right from feel, and under penalty of death in many cases...really insane.

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
I remember reading that some of those tiny cameras came with a length of thread to indicate the focal length.

Zopotantor
Feb 24, 2013

...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

Dick Trauma posted:

I remember reading that some of those tiny cameras came with a length of thread to indicate the focal length.

Wikipedia posted:

An 18-inch (460 mm) measuring chain was provided with most Minox subminiature cameras, which enabled easy copying of letter-sized documents. The espionage use of the Minox has been portrayed in Hollywood movies and TV shows, and some 1980s Minox advertising has played up the "spy camera" story.

super nailgun
Jan 1, 2014


This is some pretty good obsolete tech if anyone is looking to expand their collection. A pair of DECwriter IV's, one new old stock. Price isn't too bad either.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/DIGITAL-DECWRITER-IV-TYPEWRITER-EK-0LA34-UG-001-LA34/184580863141

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



super nailgun posted:

This is some pretty good obsolete tech if anyone is looking to expand their collection. A pair of DECwriter IV's, one new old stock. Price isn't too bad either.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/DIGITAL-DECWRITER-IV-TYPEWRITER-EK-0LA34-UG-001-LA34/184580863141



I'm currently in the area and could pick them up, but I don't have space. Seller seems to think they're typewriters, but they're serial terminals... I've wanted one but my wife will not approve in our apartment.

Johnny Aztec
Jan 30, 2005

by Hand Knit

Pham Nuwen posted:

I'm currently in the area and could pick them up, but I don't have space. Seller seems to think they're typewriters, but they're serial terminals... I've wanted one but my wife will not approve in our apartment.

How big are they? Seems like could slide under the bed.

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


Man, I saw that and had a visceral memory of how they sounded.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


There was a novel called 'The Interface Man' that hit a little to clsoe to reality of using EM radiation to figure out what was on a targets monitor in realtime. In the decades since it's release it's came out as a valid Proof of Concept at least for airgapped system eavesdropping.

Catzilla
May 12, 2003

"Untie the queen"


Humphreys posted:

There was a novel called 'The Interface Man' that hit a little to clsoe to reality of using EM radiation to figure out what was on a targets monitor in realtime. In the decades since it's release it's came out as a valid Proof of Concept at least for airgapped system eavesdropping.

Isn’t that literally Van Eck phreaking? Its been a thing since the original paper in 1985.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Catzilla posted:

Isn’t that literally Van Eck phreaking? Its been a thing since the original paper in 1985.

Ah, the book I mentioned came out in 1990, and as the paper was unclassified - so means I am wrong. Coulda sworn that book came out a lot earlier.

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!
It was also a minor plot element in Necronomicon.

Edit:
:downs:

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Chemmy
Feb 4, 2001

Cryptonomicon?

RoyKeen
Jul 24, 2007

Grimey Drawer
Necrocomicon

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!

Chemmy posted:

Cryptonomicon?

Lol yeah that one

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

Chemmy posted:

Cryptonomicon?
Yeah turns out the Bitcoin Blockchain is just brute-forcing a Ryleh incantation

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

One thing I'll give Cryptonomicon is that its description of how the whole Van Eck thing actually works is extremely clear. If (for some strange reason) I were called upon to explain it to people, I'd probably go look up that passage, and freely steal from it.

Johnny Aztec
Jan 30, 2005

by Hand Knit
I read that book and the only thing I can remember is they were racing some guy to recover gold from an underground site and "won" by flooding the tunnels with gas, lighting it, ...and it somehow melting all the gold so it came pouring out in a river.



Frankly, It was boring as poo poo

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
Despite being so bad at math that I think I might have a neurological problem Cryptonomicon made me purchase a book about cryptography, and it was excellent.

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Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
The concepts in Cryptonomicon were interesting even if the story was dumb.

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