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Brawnfire posted:It's the nosefolds for me. Looks like they're wrinkling their nose in disgust at me, which is a massive turn-on Now we know why the Skreeans were so adamant about Bajor - they all have a shaming kink
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Chomp8645 posted:This poster raises an excellent point. A pair of excellent points.
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Brawnfire posted:It's the nosefolds for me. Looks like they're wrinkling their nose in disgust at me, which is a massive turn-on So, you're into Resting Bajoran Face are you?
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Tighclops posted:So, you're into Resting Bajoran Face are you?  lovely
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Brawnfire posted:It's the nosefolds for me. Looks like they're wrinkling their nose in disgust at me, which is a massive turn-on Learning some things about myself.
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watching Tears Of The Prophets and A) ughhhh what is with the writers putting in these scenes of Quark and Bashir pining for Dax B) huge, gigantic, gut-busting lols at their juvenile assumption of "oh they're going to have kids, that means the relationship will last a long time"
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Poison Mind posted:Still not sure where people get the idea that Kira would be cool and progressive. She's consistently shown to be a fundamentalist zealot whose whole schtick only works because her divine intercessors of choice literally exist and are made out to be Objectively Right. Nana Visitor is enjoyable as an actor, Kira is a god drat CHUD. THANK YOU
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:watching Tears Of The Prophets and
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Poison Mind posted:Still not sure where people get the idea that Kira would be cool and progressive. She's consistently shown to be a fundamentalist zealot whose whole schtick only works because her divine intercessors of choice literally exist and are made out to be Objectively Right. Nana Visitor is enjoyable as an actor, Kira is a god drat CHUD. Late-season Kira absolutely is progressive, but early-season Kira is someone who's had a hard upbringing and has just gotten done throwing off one oppressive regime from her planet and it looks like a new one in snappier uniforms and kinder words is threatening to replace the first. Over the course of the show she gets to chill and open her eyes to the wider galaxy and nuances that just weren't possible when your daily options were "obey and suffer" or "kill Cardassians to survive".
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more thoughts from Tears of the Prophets: "that is, if you believe in the prophets" "well i do today!!  "wait, hold on. nobody disputes that there's something living in the wormhole, and that they've intervened in... linear matters before. and there's plenty of other aliens with superpowers that have hosed around with people. why are we discussing them as if they're actual deities? if anything, shouldn't the notion that some aliens reached down and tucked in Dax's ovaries to make them extra-receptive to Worf's big hot Klingon sperm be a little disconcerting? if the Dominion teleports can still zap Dukat in and out wherever he pleases, why aren't they using those to sabotage the gently caress out of DS9? prophets don't seem to realize that Sisko hanging around the station wouldn't have stopped Dukat's rear end anyway. hell, imagine if he had been there; Dukat would have killed him and then the prophets would really have been hosed! dumbasses. still absolutely incredible to me that Ron Moore could whine about Dax reaching for her phaser before Dukat killed her. what a loving dipshit. if the orbital defense grid's shields are so strong, why don't the cardassians use them on their starships? why's Bashir using the priority one frequency? oh my god the small child saying "the orbs are gone, you have to find them, emissary!" is just... terrible. just terrible. who did this final remark: i've said before that the writers pulled a Tasha Yar when they wrote off Dax, but here's the delicious kicker: they couldn't even write as ~~*~authentic~*~~ a sudden, shocking death as Yar's was. why do i say that? because Yar didn't get a touching deathbed conversation, she was already gone by the time they got her to sickbay, and that makes sense given what Trek's medical tech should be capable of. (and you know those dillweeds are totally the type to jerk off about authenticity)
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:more thoughts from Tears of the Prophets: Because they have a planet's worth of power to throw at them? 
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no they don't. it's like, an asteroid. i mean they call it a moon but it didn't look that big to me.
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Danaru posted:Star Trek: Kira, wherein Nana Visitor teaches us how to make makeshift explosives for the increasingly likely Bad Time that approaches. The series gets cancelled for being too political people don't like nuance and struggle with the idea of characters who wouldn't vote the same way they do
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:no they don't. it's like, an asteroid. i mean they call it a moon but it didn't look that big to me. Any fixed installation is going to have more power to throw at things like energy weaponry and shields because it doesn't have to worry about the same limitations and requirements a ship does (Mass, available space, propulsion, etc). Even if you had an outpost the exact size of a ship with the same power system it'd be stronger just by not having to worry about having to keep power allocated to engines and a bunch of accompanying subsystems.
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Just finished watching an iZombie with Linda Park as a guest star. Hoshi Sato definitely opened up a world of opportunities for her!!! (Playing the chef of the murder victim of the week)
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like Kira is super super super interesting as a trek character to show that you can have legit diversity of opinion and they're not all just different brands of progressive opinions. that's compelling, and i can find her compelling AND know i'd hate her as a coworker
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:watching Tears Of The Prophets and they were frantically trying to make sure everyone knew that quark bashir odo miles and garak where not a gay polycule and , they didnt do a great job
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Miles and Julian kept picking WWI holoprograms because they felt high in the sky when they were in each others' trenches.
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Bogus Adventure posted:Miles and Julian kept picking WWI holoprograms because they felt high in the sky when they were in each others' trenches. 
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Any fixed installation is going to have more power to throw at things like energy weaponry and shields because it doesn't have to worry about the same limitations and requirements a ship does (Mass, available space, propulsion, etc). Even if you had an outpost the exact size of a ship with the same power system it'd be stronger just by not having to worry about having to keep power allocated to engines and a bunch of accompanying subsystems. Space forts can't sink?
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:before that the writers pulled a Tasha Yar when they wrote off Dax, but here's the delicious kicker: they couldn't even write as ~~*~authentic~*~~ a sudden, shocking death as Yar's was. why do i say that? because Yar didn't get a touching deathbed conversation, she was already gone by the time they got her to sickbay, and that makes sense given what Trek's medical tech should be capable of. Yar does get a touching deathbed conversation, it's just delivered by a prerecorded hologram while everyone stands in front of the default Windows XP background
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Right but it's post mortem is the point, she's fully dead by the time she hits the ground.
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Alchenar posted:Space forts can't sink? Space Forts, broadly, hand-wavingly, speaking, mostly just need to worry about maintaining orbit or sitting in place 99% of the time and all that power normally allocated to zooming from place to place via fictional speeds or methods (jump drives, warp, etc) is spent on shields or weaponry instead. If they're sinking in gravity, there's bigger problems at hand. Consider the ISS; It doesn't have the gravity-escaping engines of a shuttle or rocket slapped onto it, does it? All it needs is enough thrusters to nudge its course every so often. DS9 has bigass thrusters, but they had to fudge a lot to make that thing move from Bajoran orbit to the Wormhole without tearing itself apart with a stable structural integrity field. Also; Civilization Enterprise has found itself a pre-warp industrial civilization circa roughly the 15-1600's. And today's example of "And that's why there's a rule now, children  " is Archer and his tourist group bumbling on down with silicone facial prosthetics (no, literally) to blend in and to go poke around. Take some photos, sample the local culture, bring back souvenirs. A fun day out. What's not pre-warp, however, is the antimatter reactor they pick up while poking around. The locals nearby are getting a mite sick, and a little light breaking-and-entering of the local curio store housing the thing yields a weird field that... FORCES them back from a door to the basement. What odd strange, new, technology. They also get spotted by a local poking her nose around the shop and stun her with a phase pistol when she pulls a crossbow on the away team.Turns out she's an Apothecary trying to work out what's going on and find a cure because whatever's going has already killed her brother and sickened a lot of people, happily sharing notes with this "Team of investigators from 'another city'" and unsubtly trying to get into Archer's pants in the finest Kirk tradition. Going back to the Curio store reveals the guy running it isn't local either. His people studied the Akaali too and he became enamoured so he stayed. All that reactor's doing is powering a few creature comforts, albeit with enough power to light up a city and a "manufacturing unit" to "replicate" a few choice items to turn a profit off of. Nothing suspicious at all. Following his mysterious midnight deliveries kinda blows the whole "another city" lie for Archer when a ship flies in and tractorbeams the packages along with a phaser-filled firefight. One that Enterprise just wasn't asked to track or pursue for some reason. The cause of the illness isn't the reactor anyway, turns out it's a toxic chemical seeping into the local aquifer that's a byproduct from what's really going on; an illicit mining operation concealed under the curio shop. The stuff's useful for weapons as it's highly explosive, and the byproduct's the chemical poisoning the water, because apparently proper handling procedures are for people who aren't villains of the week. Archer tells them to knock it off while their ship tells Enterprise to gently caress off in orbit. T'Pol solves both problems once Archer shuts down their dampening field by simply beaming out the antimatter reactor and detonating it beside their ship  . Doesn't destroy their ship, but it sure makes them back the hell off what with their cash cow gone. It also turns into a firefight in the streets as everyone runs out of the mine, so someone should probably be concerned about people talking about strangers pointing weapons shooting beams of light at eachother. No? Oh well  . They get told to gently caress off and leave the planet alone by Archer, along with the soon-to-be-regular "one day we'll have rules about this stuff" spiel, and he gets a kiss from the Apothecary before leaving the planet forever.
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For some reason I remembered it as WWI. Not gonna lie, it has been a long time since I've watched DS9.
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while they certainly had a rough go of it and suffered tremendously under cardassian occupation, the bajorans are, largely, a fuckin' drag just real buzzkills
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CarpenterWalrus posted:while they certainly had a rough go of it and suffered tremendously under cardassian occupation, the bajorans are, largely, a fuckin' drag Yeah. While the occupation was completely wrong, their pre-occupation society wasn't great either. Pretty good if you were high caste, but overall kinda sucked. In the bajorans-are-every-oppressed-rl-people, in this case they might be sort of like Tibet. Yes, the chinese invasion is wrong. The pre-invasion theocratic government also kinda sucked.
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the dandruff polycule are the fans
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I mean the producers didn't plan to kill off Dax, that was forced on them by Rick Berman refusing to let Terry Farrell be in fewer episodes and stay on the show.
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oh but seriously I posted:the dandruff polycule are the fans i agree they deserve to suffer
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Bajorans are exactly as lovely and annoying as real people and its not their fault they got stuck in the Trek containing characters who aren't exclusively robots, psychotics, or both
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FlamingLiberal posted:I mean the producers didn't plan to kill off Dax, that was forced on them by Rick Berman refusing to let Terry Farrell be in fewer episodes and stay on the show. they may not have had a choice to kill off Dax (although, did Rick Berman actually directly order the character killed, or did they just decide "welp, actor's leaving, now we get to kill a character! ") but they could have done it differently
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farrell asked berman if she could move to part time since the show wasn't really doing much with her anyway. he immediately went nuts and made up a bunch of poo poo about farrell before killing off jadzia. it was solely and unquestionably his fault.
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It's amazing how much Enterprise relies on sudden lapses in crew competency for some of its stories to happen. Fortunate Son Enterprise gets ordered to go investigate a Y-class freighter that was attacked, just to find they don't really want help. All while somehow getting from months into travel through unexplored space back to well-traveled space in surprisingly short order. The Captain's laid out with severe neurological damage from a bunch of Nausicaan pirates attacking and robbing the ship, but they take care of their own, kindly go away and don't look around. Phlox bullies his way in to treat the guy anyway, and Archer pushes to assist as there's no point to them coming all the way just to leave, while the ship's XO's being suspect as all hell. You would be too with a Nausciaan prisoner trussed up in a cargo bay that you don't want found before you can beat info out of them. The episode winds back-and-forth with the crew interacting with the freighter's, until T'Pol picks up the Nausciaan's biosign and oh dear, we thought they were trustworthy friends  . The XO leads Archer, T'Pol and Reed into the most obvious ambush ever, shooting a hole in the bulkhead before ejecting it with all three inside while the ship jumps to warp, leaving Enterprise to recover its senior officers. A ship that can only do barely Warp 1.8 and takes ages to go anywhere somehow manages to elude the pursuit of Starfleet's brand-new starship while the freighter goes to hunt the Nausicaan's ship armed with the shield frequencies the XO beat out of their prisoner. What the prisoner failed to mention was the Nausicaan's had a base near the asteroid it was hiding around, along with several more ships. Also the shield frequencies were a lie. I know, I'm shocked too. The freighter gets hosed up, and Enterprise arrives in the nick of time to get both sides to drop their weapons and let the prisoner go. Along with a general threat to the Nausicaans that Starfleet's new NX ships are here and Enterprise is just the first of many.It's a neat little episode trying to show what life's like in Enterprise's era with older ships taking years to hall freight anywhere interstellar, but it really just wants to show off a TNG reference and the XO's a pretty one-note Ahab analogy, wanting revenge for his injured crew. Also the show really likes to have Enterprise travel at the speed of plot, with them documenting that they've been out for weeks or months just to get them to turn around and head back somewhere relatively-local in days or hours. (You could argue they're probably not flying out in a straight line while poking and prodding at various stellar phenomena, but there's clearly a lot of suspension of disbelief and plot-speed at play).
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Neddy Seagoon posted:It's amazing how much Enterprise relies on sudden lapses in crew competency for some of its stories to happen. Star Trek always has moved at the speed of plot. It just was more convenient to do so when you have more than five warp factors.
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sweet geek swag posted:Star Trek always has moved at the speed of plot. It just was more convenient to do so when you have more than five warp factors. Oh no, I totally get that. I just think its more funny in Enterprise's case when they try to make a big deal of them being months out into deep space, "making history with every lightyear" going out where humans have never gone before, and still making it back home in a span of days any time Admiral Forrest calls asking for help.
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also I thought it took them so long to follow that ship because of their myopic sensors and not their warp speed.
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Sorry, forgot this was star trek. SensORs.
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CainFortea posted:Sorry, forgot this was star trek. SensORs. I think this was a gag in Lower Decks.
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Yvonmukluk posted:I think this was a gag in Lower Decks. It was!
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