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theironjef
Aug 11, 2009

The archmage of unexpected stinks.

And Philippe is the part of Onstad that is 5. Yes! Hi!

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Strange Cares
Nov 22, 2007



Christ, I miss Assetbar. I was just re-reading the archives and I got to the part after uncle Culpepper is revealed to be Liebot, where the bots are driving around showing their asses, and I remembered having an extended discussion in the assetbar comments about whether this was how Liebot celebrated any given extended lie that he pulled off, if it were a hallucination in his dying robot brain, or if it were some kind of unrelated gag strip like Onstad does now and then. That community was one of the best parts of Achewood.
Gone now. Like so many worthwhile things, it was not supportable under capitalism, or the new Web. Such a loss.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Strange Cares posted:

Christ, I miss Assetbar. I was just re-reading the archives and I got to the part after uncle Culpepper is revealed to be Liebot, where the bots are driving around showing their asses, and I remembered having an extended discussion in the assetbar comments about whether this was how Liebot celebrated any given extended lie that he pulled off, if it were a hallucination in his dying robot brain, or if it were some kind of unrelated gag strip like Onstad does now and then. That community was one of the best parts of Achewood.
Gone now. Like so many worthwhile things, it was not supportable under capitalism, or the new Web. Such a loss.

what is the saddest thing?

Strange Cares
Nov 22, 2007



Ok Comboomer posted:

what is the saddest thing?

The day that a web forum closes, and each member says their goodbyes, as their comments, one by one, disappear, each saying they will see each other around the internet even as they know it to be a lie. (StrangeCares chubbied this comment)

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004


image text goes here
If it's any consolation, as long as SA stays up you'll always have the latest copy of the spiel about Onstad not writing about Molly enough to look forward to.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Gnoman
Feb 12, 2014

Come, all you fair and tender maids
Who flourish in your pri-ime
Beware, take care, keep your garden fair
Let Gnoman steal your thy-y-me
Le-et Gnoman steal your thyme




paradoxGentleman posted:

Roast Beef is probably the one Achewood character who I could see not really having a problem with LGBTQ+ people.
Teodor did work with that one porn actor but he also had that weird dream where an important person offers him a job and implies that he thinks he's gay, and he got weird about it, so he probably has some baggage there.

There was that one strip where Lyle was quie happy to find a job ad for "making recently transitioned MTF individuals more comfortable wit their new bodies". I could never work out if that was phobic or not.

Tulip
Jun 3, 2008

yeah thats pretty good


Gnoman posted:

There was that one strip where Lyle was quie happy to find a job ad for "making recently transitioned MTF individuals more comfortable wit their new bodies". I could never work out if that was phobic or not.

We have pretty canonical evidence on how several of the characters handle people close to them coming out of the closet, though only really in depth for Ray* and Pat†

* Fairly well-meaning but kind of weird
† Like a huge goddamn rear end in a top hat

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004


image text goes here

Gnoman posted:

There was that one strip where Lyle was quie happy to find a job ad for "making recently transitioned MTF individuals more comfortable wit their new bodies". I could never work out if that was phobic or not.

More Lyle-phobic than anything imo.

How Wonderful!
Jul 18, 2006


I only have excellent ideas
For what it's worth when I came out I reread the Pat strip where he pivots immediately from unbridled joy to being a schoolmarm rear end in a top hat and laughed because that journey also took me about five seconds.

theironjef
Aug 11, 2009

The archmage of unexpected stinks.

Gnoman posted:

There was that one strip where Lyle was quie happy to find a job ad for "making recently transitioned MTF individuals more comfortable wit their new bodies". I could never work out if that was phobic or not.

Lyle could be way into it, honestly. None of the porn he reads ever seems to have any gender assignations. Completely Ruined Junk magazine! Just looking at a pornograpic image! Sure he owned Breast Attack on gently caress Mountain but maybe he could just swing however, right? After all thanks to his trading card we do know he used to be both an rear end and a breast man, but is currently just into "holes".

I guess he does know some women that will gently caress in exchange for a ride in a car. I think the dude seriously only thinks as far as "who will not get mad at me for barfing on them during".

theironjef fucked around with this message at 06:40 on Dec 14, 2020

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



Fun Shoe

theironjef posted:

I think the dude seriously only thinks as far as "who will not get mad at me for barfing on them during".

Lyle and Hiram are playing different games.

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007

Strange Cares posted:

Christ, I miss Assetbar. I was just re-reading the archives and I got to the part after uncle Culpepper is revealed to be Liebot, where the bots are driving around showing their asses, and I remembered having an extended discussion in the assetbar comments about whether this was how Liebot celebrated any given extended lie that he pulled off, if it were a hallucination in his dying robot brain, or if it were some kind of unrelated gag strip like Onstad does now and then. That community was one of the best parts of Achewood.
Gone now. Like so many worthwhile things, it was not supportable under capitalism, or the new Web. Such a loss.

two assetbar posts i wish i'd saved:

one that thoroughly and mercilessly ripped apart teodor's first menu for beef's wedding, summarizing that the dishes weren't just needlessly pretentious, they were also lovely fusion cuisine that would have barely been edible

one for the tex-mex waiter strip that detailed the barely repressed homicidal fury that goes through such a person's mind as they wish for you to have a *tap tap* "nice day!"

Bismack Billabongo
Oct 9, 2012

New Love Glow

Phy posted:

Lyle and Hiram are playing different games.

Whoa insane

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

Oxxidation posted:

one that thoroughly and mercilessly ripped apart teodor's first menu for beef's wedding, summarizing that the dishes weren't just needlessly pretentious, they were also lovely fusion cuisine that would have barely been edible
I had to look up some of the dishes just to confirm that they're real. It really was incredibly tryhard, with every ingredient coming from a different country. It had the carbon footprint of an exploding oil rig and Teodor was being a vittles bitch.

Deathlove
Feb 20, 2003

Pillbug

Oxxidation posted:

one for the tex-mex waiter strip that detailed the barely repressed homicidal fury that goes through such a person's mind as they wish for you to have a *tap tap* "nice day!"

Oh God anyone that has waited tables felt that strip so hard.

How Wonderful!
Jul 18, 2006


I only have excellent ideas
Jai in the Sky/Darin' Aaron Magoo is probably my favorite minor Achewood character, close contest with Milklin.

Erebus
Jul 13, 2001

Okay... Keep your head, Steve boy...

Oxxidation posted:

one that thoroughly and mercilessly ripped apart teodor's first menu for beef's wedding, summarizing that the dishes weren't just needlessly pretentious, they were also lovely fusion cuisine that would have barely been edible

This?

quote:

Okay, since I'm a reasonably know-it-all-rear end in a top hat about food, and I haven't done many good deeds, I'll throw my view on what the gently caress these things are. First off: the locations. It's a thing among pretentious restaurants that they tell you where the food comes from, as though you know good locations from bad. Second: the quoting. It's a thing that people 'reinvent' concepts in food by using something in a totally abnormal technique. I'll explain it in three.

Three: The hamachi 'ravioli'. Hamachi is a nice Japanese fish food enough for sashimi (raw) service. He's saying he will shave off two squares of hamachi, then serve a quail yolk on the inside of them (taken from a recent Iron Chef I bet) and seal the edges, making a sort of ravioli. Cook quickly, then squirt some mousse made with chives and fish eggs (a Wolfgang Puck thing) and serve in a one-or-so bite dish. This would not taste good in reality.

Four: the 'prosciutto'. Prosciutto is made from cured pork, and he says he'll do it with duck (hint: not fatty and too red for great curing). He'll serve this with a mashup relish of peaches and Basque flavors (paprika maybe?) On top of it all would be a VERY sour vinaigrette (Yuzu tastes kinda like grapefruit). The texture of this dish would be awful, and he would be slapped for calling it a salad.

Finally: the duet. Beef and lobster are a classic, if overrated, pair. The barigoule is a slow-stewed artichoke dish, and braised almonds just means almost cooked slowly in a flavorful liquid. The stew and almonds might be okay (never done those together), but would have little to do with the beef and lobster.

All in all, this is Onstar making fun of pretentious food. He's spoken against it in the blogs, and this is EXACTLY the sort of poo poo a 20-something protochef would cook up to prove himself.

Oh, and sauce espagnole is a fairly simple brown sauce made with tomatoes. It would be nice on the beef, awful on the lobster, and have nothing to do with the artichokes and almonds.

There are Assetbar archives here, though I can't account for how complete they are.

Strange Cares
Nov 22, 2007



Erebus posted:

This?


There are Assetbar archives here, though I can't account for how complete they are.

This legitimately feels like a christmas miracle to me. I'm so happy, you have no idea.

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007

Erebus posted:

This?


There are Assetbar archives here, though I can't account for how complete they are.

high point of my day right here

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

Erebus posted:

This?


There are Assetbar archives here, though I can't account for how complete they are.

Oh sweet I finally get to find my favorite comment ever from The Strip where Pat gets jostled by an AIBO



Sadly there's no avatars so the joke loses a bit but saucy_jack had a Vlad avatar hence the response.

Android Blues
Nov 22, 2008

Erebus posted:

This?


There are Assetbar archives here, though I can't account for how complete they are.

Proscuitto also takes 3 - 6 months to cure depending on whether you're using sodium nitrite, so I hope Teodor had a good duck proscuitto wholesaler in mind.

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004


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Duck prosciutto is kind of a cheat, you can do it in a week:
https://ruhlman.com/2009/03/18/duck-prosciutto/

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

LYYYYLE!
 New day!
   NEW...D A A A Y!

Safety Dance
Sep 10, 2007

Five degrees to starboard!

Norman Rockwell's gettin' his easel outta the car.

Pastry of the Year
Apr 12, 2013

This feels very Achewood:

https://twitter.com/katherinespiers/status/1339780506045403136

Johnny Aztec
Jan 30, 2005

by Hand Knit
It MUFT Sizzle!

LordSaturn
Aug 12, 2007

sadly unfunny

that is, more or less, why it's called an Old Fashioned

Pershing
Feb 21, 2010

John "Black Jack" Pershing
Hard Fucking Core

The idea of a 'year abroad' in New Jersey makes me laugh

https://www.achewood.com/index.php?date=11212007

paradoxGentleman
Dec 10, 2013

wheres the jester, I could do with some pointless nonsense right about now

I wonder if Lyle genuinely thought that this was what the Hardy Boys fanbase wanted, or if he's only capable of seeing the world through this lense.

E: I've never read an Hardy Boy book but my understanding is that they're basically mystery novels for kids, right? Kind of like Goosebumps is horror for kids

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Shame to waste some Chucks :hmmyes:

Ashenai
Oct 5, 2005

You taught me language;
and my profit on't
Is, I know how to curse.

paradoxGentleman posted:

E: I've never read an Hardy Boy book but my understanding is that they're basically mystery novels for kids, right? Kind of like Goosebumps is horror for kids

Mystery/adventure, yeah.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
Set in the super-whitewashed version of early 20th-century America that never existed but that ancient people like to get nostalgic about. I feel like there was almost certainly some kind of blackface situation featured in there somewhere.

withak fucked around with this message at 19:38 on Dec 20, 2020

KICK BAMA KICK
Mar 2, 2009

There was a second run of more modern ones in maybe the 80s-90s? Still for kids but they would occasionally fight like terrorists instead of bandits wearing prison stripes.

disaster pastor
May 1, 2007


KICK BAMA KICK posted:

There was a second run of more modern ones in maybe the 80s-90s? Still for kids but they would occasionally fight like terrorists instead of bandits wearing prison stripes.

Yeah, there have been a bunch of "now we're modern!" or "now we're less racist!" spin-off series. I'm not sure about this part of their Wiki description, though:

LRADIKAL
Jun 10, 2001

Fun Shoe
I remember one where one brother was a sysop on a dial up BBS. Another where they're being chased by terrorists while they escape in an armored vehicle and the one brother frets about maybe killing someone with cover fire.

Then ones where they talk about their friends jalopy is weird.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


withak posted:

Set in the super-whitewashed version of early 20th-century America that never existed but that ancient people like to get nostalgic about. I feel like there was almost certainly some kind of blackface situation featured in there somewhere.

Oh it's way worse than that. The original novels were written to be more representative of the era, featuring lots of minority characters (and more violence and varied types of crimes and sometimes sympathetic criminals) but the characters got called slurs and acted like offensive stereotypes a lot. So in the 50s, the publishing house decided to remove the racism in reprints.... by making every character white. They also removed the violence and the nuanced criminals, turning all of them into scheming robbers who don't have weapons and are easily foiled by unarmed children.

CannonFodder
Jan 26, 2001

Passion’s Wrench

Safety Dance posted:

Norman Rockwell's gettin' his easel outta the car.
Norman Rockwell's car is a 2002 Mitsubishi Montero.



Ok, now I will look up the alt text and see how close I was...

The alt text is: Norman Rockwell (1894-1978) drives the 2005 Mitsubishi Montero.

So I was off for the year and the precise wording and the added "here's the joke" bit with Rockwell's birth and death. But I got the car right, because those are the things that stay in my head.

Safety Dance
Sep 10, 2007

Five degrees to starboard!

CannonFodder posted:

Norman Rockwell's car is a 2002 Mitsubishi Montero.



Ok, now I will look up the alt text and see how close I was...

The alt text is: Norman Rockwell (1894-1978) drives the 2005 Mitsubishi Montero.

So I was off for the year and the precise wording and the added "here's the joke" bit with Rockwell's birth and death. But I got the car right, because those are the things that stay in my head.

Man, this is one beautiful post. Bless the little baby angel who is in charge of posts like this.

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DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

Lurdiak posted:

Oh it's way worse than that. The original novels were written to be more representative of the era, featuring lots of minority characters (and more violence and varied types of crimes and sometimes sympathetic criminals) but the characters got called slurs and acted like offensive stereotypes a lot. So in the 50s, the publishing house decided to remove the racism in reprints.... by making every character white. They also removed the violence and the nuanced criminals, turning all of them into scheming robbers who don't have weapons and are easily foiled by unarmed children.
Holy poo poo, what? I kinda wish I had had the original ones, then, because man the reprints sure were... bland.

edit: goddamn yeah these sound great:

quote:

In these early titles, the boys are cynical about human nature, an attitude apparently justified when the police, whom they have repeatedly helped, throw them into jail on slim evidence in The Great Airport Mystery (1930).[45] The police and authority figures in general come off poorly in these books, so much so that at one point Edward Stratemeyer wrote McFarlane to reprimand him for "grievous lack of respect for officers of the law."[46]
shame about the horrible racism

DACK FAYDEN fucked around with this message at 19:01 on Dec 21, 2020

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