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Apologies if build pics are frowned upon itt but I wanted to share the fruits of my weekend's labours (and, realistically, the last 6 months of learning, planning and stock chasing)   Still a few more cosmetic changes to make, such as getting a monitor arm, cable tidying and moving the PC onto a lower table to clear up desk space, but I'm very happy with my efforts, especially given this is the first PC I've built in 15 years. Please excuse the sad lily, and thanks to everyone itt who offered help and advice either directly or through osmosis. Case: nr200p GPU: 3080 FE CPU: 5600x Cooler: Fuma 2 Mobo: Gigabyte b550i AORUS ITX RAM: Crucial Ballistix 32GB Storage: WD SN550 PSU: Corsair SF600 Monitor: LG 27GL850-B Keyboard: Logitech g513 Mouse: Logitech G Pro Mousepad: Aukey Fans: Arctic p12, noctua A12x15 Butterfly Valley fucked around with this message at 19:36 on Dec 13, 2020 |
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Awesome! Looks great, crazy how compact parts and cases have gotten
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Dec 13, 2020 19:39
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Seeing the results of the advice given in here is always nice! Really like that form factor. It's not too small as to be a giant pain to build in, but not too big to take up a ton of space. Really nice build and congrats!
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Dec 13, 2020 19:47
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Gearman posted:Seeing the results of the advice given in here is always nice! Really like that form factor. It's not too small as to be a giant pain to build in, but not too big to take up a ton of space. Really nice build and congrats! Yeah I wanted to do something different from my first build as a dumb teenager when I had the mantra 'bigger = better' and ended up with a giant silver shitbox and a 5.1 surround system in my small bedroom These days I prefer efficiency of design and function, and our apartment isn't huge so a giant tower would look totally out of place anyway, so the nr200 was ideal. It was challenging enough but really rewarding to build in.
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Dec 13, 2020 20:06
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Hey, is the i9 10850K a good processor for my modest build? https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i9-10850k-core-i9-10th-gen/p/N82E16819118175?repost $400 today only, which is a little cheaper than a scalped 5600x. Might be overkill and cooling would be a pain right?
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Dec 13, 2020 20:10
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Is there a RAM thread or can someone point me in the direction of a 'how to overclock RAM' guide for idiots please? I bought Crucial Ballistix 3200 and have turned XMP on but I remember some goon itt saying they'd overclocked theirs to a stable 3600 easily enough.
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Dec 13, 2020 20:22
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Is there a quick n' easy way to migrate Windows to a new drive? My partner's system is running off one old HDD and I got them a SSD. There is no data that needs to be saved but they don't have the old disc to do a clean install.
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nitsuga posted:PCPartPicker uses some bad filtering with these builds IMO, so I changed a few things both for performance and personal preference (you should not pay $450 for a 5700XT). Basically, changed out the SATA drive for an M.2 drive, picked an 80+ Gold PSU, ditched the OLOY memory, and found a motherboard that has Bluetooth and Wi-Fi built-in so you don't have to buy an expansion card or dongle to use your PS4 controller. If you just want to build something now, I think this'd be more than capable of what you're hoping for. The stock issues plaguing GPUs and AMD CPUs might get better in a few months though, of course things might just get worse too. First off, thanks so much for the advice! I ordered all of the parts, but I ran into one hitch: the video card you suggested is sold out! Is there a comparable or slightly better card you can recommend to me that will be compatible with this setup? I haven't really looked into video cards in years so I don't know what's overpriced, what's mediocre, and what's just right. Since you were so helpful cutting down on the overall cost of the PC, I'd say my budget max is $400, but I understand that video cards show diminishing returns as you go more expensive, so if there's something almost as good for $300-$350 that would work for me as well. Thanks again for your help with this, I really appreciate it. edit: I found a Radeon RTX 5600 for $320, is that a good price for the performance of this card? SoR Blaze fucked around with this message at 20:55 on Dec 13, 2020 |
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Dec 13, 2020 20:39
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The 3060Ti at $400 is excellent value and is miles ahead of anything else in that price range, but good luck getting one
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Based on just 2 days it looks tough to find a 3060Ti under $600, I'm in the same boat. I think there are a lot of other 1660 Super chips for sale for $300. Try clicking GPU on PCPartsPicker and it should show compatible options.
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Dec 13, 2020 20:51
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Inzombiac posted:Is there a quick n' easy way to migrate Windows to a new drive? There are. You might be able to use Window's built-in backup and restore, but I think Windows 10 has been deprecating that. You can also use any other imaging software, like CloneZilla or DriveImage XML. That being said, if the old system is old old, I would suggest installing Windows fresh. Even the upgrades from older versions of Windows 10 to newer have introduced lots of weirdness, in my experience. It's much better with modern Windows 10 upgrades, so no concern there. If you're saying they don't have the old disk, as in the old Windows disk, they shouldn't need one. These days you can easily create a Windows 10 install to a USB drive. Activating using your existing Windows 7 or Windows 10 key should work without issue. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/create-installation-media-for-windows-99a58364-8c02-206f-aa6f-40c3b507420d If you need a new key, you can get one quite cheaply in SA Mart. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3898368 [Edit: If you do move from HDD to SSD, it is worth double checking to make sure TRIM is enabled once you finish migrating. I believe Windows 10 is good at detecting and enabling it these days, but still worth a double check IMO. https://www.windowscentral.com/how-ensure-trim-enabled-windows-10-speed-ssd-performance ]
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SoR Blaze posted:First off, thanks so much for the advice! I ordered all of the parts, but I ran into one hitch: the video card you suggested is sold out! Is there a comparable or slightly better card you can recommend to me that will be compatible with this setup? I haven't really looked into video cards in years so I don't know what's overpriced, what's mediocre, and what's just right. Since you were so helpful cutting down on the overall cost of the PC, I'd say my budget max is $400, but I understand that video cards show diminishing returns as you go more expensive, so if there's something almost as good for $300-$350 that would work for me as well. Thanks again for your help with this, I really appreciate it. As the others here have said a 3060 Ti would be just about the perfect card, but they're all but unobtainable currently. Looking at some benchmarks though, an RX 5600 XT looks like it wouldn't be a horrible choice and should be able to hold up to 1440p pretty well. You may end up upgrading before forever, but for right now it's not a bad card by any means. I found one in stock for $310 here: https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-rad...SXd2qoZmplmjaYA
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Dec 13, 2020 21:07
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Thanks nitsuga! And thank you for the build that was just quoted, I was looking for something along those lines myself. Do you prefer the 5600 you linked over the similarly-priced: Asus GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB DUAL EVO OC Video Card I might get that 5600 myself then.
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Dec 13, 2020 21:27
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nitsuga posted:As the others here have said a 3060 Ti would be just about the perfect card, but they're all but unobtainable currently. Looking at some benchmarks though, an RX 5600 XT looks like it wouldn't be a horrible choice and should be able to hold up to 1440p pretty well. You may end up upgrading before forever, but for right now it's not a bad card by any means. I found one in stock for $310 here: https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-rad...SXd2qoZmplmjaYA Thanks again so much for the time and consideration you took with your posts. I was really starting to feel lost comparing various cards, as it's been a really long time since I've looked into it and the current GPU shortage had me a little shook about getting the right one. I really appreciate it.
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Dec 13, 2020 21:37
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Is there anywhere that lists MSRP for EU/Prices of components and not their inflated scalper prices don't want to get caught out.
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Dec 13, 2020 21:55
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Just as a word of advice, I got my 3060ti not by trying to compete with sniping the product purely by online only sales, but rather placed an order at my local best buy when the fulfillment happened. If you live in a lower tech city especially it might be easier that way for yall.
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Dec 13, 2020 22:01
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Lol and then I snipped a ryzen 5600x on Amazon. It's possible it turns out!
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teardrop posted:Thanks nitsuga! And thank you for the build that was just quoted, I was looking for something along those lines myself. Yeah, I think the 5600 XT has the upper hand as far as performance goes. So at an equal price, the 5600 XT would seem like the better choice. If you wanted to use Moonlight for in-home streaming, a Nvidia GPU is the only way to go as far as I know though. I'm not an expert, especially with AMD GPUs, but the reviews I've looked at are pretty favorable, e.g. https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-rx_5600_xt, https://www.anandtech.com/show/15422/the-amd-radeon-rx-5600-xt-review
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I have my new system up and running - I remember seeing a post of basic BIOS and other CPU/Memory settings to enable/set up immediately for performance but I cannot find the post now. Any recommendations for easy but smart settings for this system? I haven't changed anything at this point from default. Ryzen 5600x Asus ROG Strix B550-F G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Timing 16-19-19-39 CAS Latency 16 Voltage 1.35V
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Pedialyte posted:I have my new system up and running - I remember seeing a post of basic BIOS and other CPU/Memory settings to enable/set up immediately for performance but I cannot find the post now. Any recommendations for easy but smart settings for this system? I haven't changed anything at this point from default. Turn on XMP and that's about it. PBO if you want but eh.
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Dec 13, 2020 22:58
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Veskit posted:Just as a word of advice, I got my 3060ti not by trying to compete with sniping the product purely by online only sales, but rather placed an order at my local best buy when the fulfillment happened. If you live in a lower tech city especially it might be easier that way for yall. I dont understand what this means, best buy is doing all video cards online order? Did you just call them up and order by part #? I can't imagine that was faster than the thousands of people trying online?
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bus hustler posted:dont understand what this means, best buy is doing all video cards online order? There's an "online only" order bucket, that is available to anyone who orders. Then there are store fulfillments that you can order from online. My local best buy had inventory that I got the card from, NOT from the "online only" pool. So if you go to order and it says sold out, also check the stores inventory to see if they have it.
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Dec 13, 2020 23:06
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^ Yeah, I have my location in so search shows local store inventory also, but it stays sold out sadly.nitsuga posted:CPU: Intel Core i5-10400 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor ($168.99 @ B&H) If budget isn't especially tight, would people recommend: Intel Core i5-10400 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor ($168.99 @ B&H) Intel Core i7-10700K 8 core 3.8 GHz $358 Intel Core i9-10850K 10 Core 3.6 GHz on sale $400 https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i9-10850k-core-i9-10th-gen/p/N82E16819118175?repost With compatible mobo and cooler for the latter. Assuming Ryzen isn't available. The i7/i9 aren't too expensive but might be overkill for gaming on this basic setup?
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Veskit posted:There's an "online only" order bucket, that is available to anyone who orders. Then there are store fulfillments that you can order from online. My local best buy had inventory that I got the card from, NOT from the "online only" pool. So if you go to order and it says sold out, also check the stores inventory to see if they have it. I don't think this is correct, they are simply doing all online only orders as store pickup as a "one per person" and anti botting thing. I think you just got one. I've had them in my cart multiple times & they're always "Store Pickup" and have me check local stores. If there are some randomly sent to stores besides ship-to-store it's still shown on the same checkout. I think one of the most frustrating things is having to camp a specific model when you have no idea if there's 5 of them or 50.
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My 5600x that I ordered a week ago with a shipping estimate of late January got moved up to arriving this Tuesday. Today I managed to snag a 5800x, but have heard so many issues about how hot the 5800x runs that I almost don't want to use it. Ideally, I want a 5950x. Has anyone actually used a 5800x? Should I just use the 5600x until I can get a 5950x? It seems so strange to use a 5600x with a 3090, but I guess it would only be temporary. edit: I managed to grab another 5600x tonight just hanging out in Discord and it's up for grabs. If I decide not to use the 5800x, it's also up for grabs. These haven't shipped yet but will in January. They are both available for cost. All you pay is PayPal fees and shipping. I've sold a 3060ti and a 3070 for similar rates. I grab stuff as it pops up now and sell it to goons. It feels good to grab stuff before bots do and this thread has helped me so much that it feels fair to pass up deals to people that can't hang out in Discord all day, but are still here to provide me with all the tech and building info I don't know myself. The 5600 is $300 + fees + shipping. The 5800 is $450 + fees + shipping. Message me if you would like either. I'm located in 28405 and you can estimate shipping via the USPS website. ShowTime fucked around with this message at 23:51 on Dec 13, 2020 |
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Dec 13, 2020 23:37
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My man can you stop buying up half of the Zen 3 and Ampere stock and leave some for other people edit: ok saw your edit, lol, you should probably just make your mind up to get the highest end parts that you obviously want and stop buying the other ones though
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Butterfly Valley posted:My man can you stop buying up half of the Zen 3 and Ampere stock and leave some for other people If I knew one of you would get it, I gladly would. As it stands, it's people just buying it up to resale. Yes, I'm reselling it, but not at a profit. There's a guy in SAMart selling stuff for $100 + everything else. With me, it's just the cost of the item, what it costs to ship the item and what PayPal charges to send the money over. I'm not making any money. I'm not gaining Ebay feedback or whatever. I guess I can't help but buy stuff as it pops now as I wait for a 5950x to go on sale. When I get that, I won't be using the Discord anymore. Butterfly Valley posted:edit: ok saw your edit, lol, you should probably just make your mind up to get the highest end parts that you obviously want and stop buying the other ones though Yes, that's the plan. But while i'm getting those notifications it's fun to grab stuff while I can and pass it on to people that can't find it. Like I said, if I knew someone here was gonna get it to to use, I wouldn't. But most of it's bought by people flipping it on the ebay or charging a broker service like that dude in SAMart. ShowTime fucked around with this message at 23:59 on Dec 13, 2020 |
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teardrop posted:^ Yeah, I have my location in so search shows local store inventory also, but it stays sold out sadly. I think in general it'd go: i3 10100 ($110) < i5 10400 ($170) < i5 10600K ($270) < i7 10700K ($360) < i9 10850K ($430) You reach a point of diminishing returns though, and I don't know how much I'd really recommend going beyond the 10600K for most people and the 10700K for elite builds. Sounds like Intel has some new things in the works (and there always will be), so I'd consider how likely you are to want the next new thing before investing significantly more in any of the current platforms. It's going to depend on the games you hope to play, but I think even a 10100 could go a long way, at least until the future is a bit more clear with regard to ideal core and thread count, Direct Storage, DDR5, Ray Tracing, et cetera. More specific to you, I guess I'd consider the 10600K as an upgrade option, but there are caveats. Basically, I don't think a 10600K is worth it without overclocking in its future. I'm not sure how much performance you gain with an overclock, but there is some room (though with added expense for cooling, Z490 motherboard, et cetera). You could opt for the non-K part too, but there isn't a lot of savings to be had there, and the added cost is all the sillier I imagine.
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There have been a lot of 5600xs on Amazon this week. The preorder I snagged over a week ago got bumped on Monday from end-of-Jan fulfillment to arriving this Friday. Stock is still low but it definitely got a big shot in the arm. Vid cards, not so much. Still hoping to get lucky on a 3070 from a discord channel. I refuse to enrich scalpers, but there's also no way I'm camping out at MC or anything like that.
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bus hustler posted:I don't think this is correct, they are simply doing all online only orders as store pickup as a "one per person" and anti botting thing. I think you just got one. I've had them in my cart multiple times & they're always "Store Pickup" and have me check local stores. If there are some randomly sent to stores besides ship-to-store it's still shown on the same checkout. This is available in store not for online order, though I could very well be dumb and wrong and not understand it 
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ShowTime posted:My 5600x that I ordered a week ago with a shipping estimate of late January got moved up to arriving this Tuesday. Today I managed to snag a 5800x, but have heard so many issues about how hot the 5800x runs that I almost don't want to use it. Ideally, I want a 5950x. Has anyone actually used a 5800x? Should I just use the 5600x until I can get a 5950x? It seems so strange to use a 5600x with a 3090, but I guess it would only be temporary. The 5800 runs hotter than the 5600 as it has a higher TDP, but it’s fine as long as you have a decently good cooler. Mine runs at around 65 C under extreme load (prime95 torture) with a Noctua NH-D15 but under normal load it’s a lot lower and idles around 35 C
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ShowTime posted:Has anyone actually used a 5800x? I imagine temps will improve when I have a deshroud+exhaust configuration on the GPU. denereal visease fucked around with this message at 01:52 on Dec 14, 2020 |
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Dec 14, 2020 00:35
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Acer Pilot posted:What country are you in? Canada Just realized the mobos it picked don’t include wifi. Should I look for one with onboard wifi or just buy a separate card and use a pcie ? Do I want wifi 6? I currently use a tp link deco m9 at home and I don’t believe that’s 6.
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What kind of CPU temps do you get on a 5800x on a H100i v2? debating updating my AIO and getting a 5800x once MSI gets off their rear end I guess I could get a new x570 but I balk at having to pay $250 for a mobo
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I think they hottest I got my 5800x is around 80ish during benchmarks/cinebench. Fans never get crazy loud and I haven't played anything too demanding to really check in games. Meshify C, D15s.
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Hey gang! My hardware understanding sort of peaked in 2006 and has stagnated ever since. Five years ago my cousin gave me a list of computer parts, I bought them and built this PC and it's served me really well. But sad me, a good friend bought me Cyberpunk, but is a cyberdunk, if you know what I mean. My question is: do I need to know much about my motherboard/processor/RAM compatibility if I want to upgrade the video card? Like, if I want to use that fancy raytracing technology, do I also need some specific CPU? Uh, and second question: I want a video card what's a good video card for like five hundred bux or less. I hope I'm not being too annoying. I've really tried to do my own research but I'm overwhelmed with finnicky numbers bullshit and a lot of people speak in shorthand for things I don't have the context for :\
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Butterfly Valley posted:Apologies if build pics are frowned upon itt but I wanted to share the fruits of my weekend's labours (and, realistically, the last 6 months of learning, planning and stock chasing) I love seeing poo poo like this, looks great, awesome rig
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teardrop posted:Awesome! Looks great, crazy how compact parts and cases have gotten Yeah, that is a massive amount of power in a case that size. I love stupid huge cases just because I've got the room so who cares but seeing something that can do bleeding edge gaming in a case that small is always impressive.
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ShowTime posted:My 5600x that I ordered a week ago with a shipping estimate of late January got moved up to arriving this Tuesday. Today I managed to snag a 5800x, but have heard so many issues about how hot the 5800x runs that I almost don't want to use it. Ideally, I want a 5950x. Has anyone actually used a 5800x? Should I just use the 5600x until I can get a 5950x? It seems so strange to use a 5600x with a 3090, but I guess it would only be temporary. I have a 5800x with an AIO cooler and have had no issues at all. MSFS runs nicely paired with my RTX 3070.
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