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mango sentinel posted:Metal Zone is like 80s thrash and Metal Core is bass-y chugging, right? not really, it's hard to explain. The metal zone is noted for its very aggressive mid freq control where knob controls a notch filter that has a really wide bandwidth. It's notoriously used with really wrong tone settings and in front of an amp as opposed to being used as a sort of preamp. The metal core is a different beast entirely and just has low/high controls without a mid control. So it's complete trash as the mid control is the most important thing.
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mango sentinel posted:Metal Zone is like 80s thrash and Metal Core is bass-y chugging, right? it's more bad 90s nu-metal demo tone in a box at least when plugged straight into an amp
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Dec 10, 2020 23:11
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Throw a Metal Zone in the front and it sucks. Throw a Metal Zone in the effects loop and it's ALL THE GAIN NO MIDS SLAYYERRRRR
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Mercuriall has a free VST emulator called Metal Area, which means you can run a Vox Continental emulator through it and get some nasty grimey keys going.
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BonHair posted:Yeah, I can place my fingers like that and play the notes. No, I can't change to it within a song. Sounds good though! It's a nice reminder of what it's like to be a beginner. Brutal chord, lol.
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Dec 11, 2020 01:14
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 This was one of my pedals that I pair with an HM-2. Turn the "delta" which is an overdrive all the way up, then into the hm-2 with the settings in the low side, just a touch of distortion and it is really beastly and clear. This is with humbuckers. The reverb gets real crazy on this thing, it goes to at least 125%
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anyone have any thoughts on G&L? might be making the mythical "strat I'm gonna put a JB in" acquisition soon and it seems like G&Ls are cheaper used, or at least it's easier to find stuff in sonic blue/surf coloring that I've been wanting it's actually between a strat and a loving Herman Miller Aeron lmao
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landgrabber posted:anyone have any thoughts on G&L? might be making the mythical "strat I'm gonna put a JB in" acquisition soon and it seems like G&Ls are cheaper used, or at least it's easier to find stuff in sonic blue/surf coloring that I've been wanting The only advice I have is never pay retail for an Aeron, there are always refurbs for half price or less. That said, they are worth full price, as they are the best chair I have ever sat in. And as an old person, I have sat in a lot.
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Lumpy posted:The only advice I have is never pay retail for an Aeron, there are always refurbs for half price or less. That said, they are worth full price, as they are the best chair I have ever sat in. And as an old person, I have sat in a lot. yeah it's like, a decent used guitar and a decent used aeron are both like $500-$600. nervous about it though because I play guitar in my desk chair and hate chair arms (I have a really deep desk and scoot all the way into it to rest my arms on my desk instead)
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landgrabber posted:yeah it's like, a decent used guitar and a decent used aeron are both like $500-$600. Same. My super cool mid century desk chair is not comfortable anymore (the seat foam squishes too much) and the metal/wood arms are the reason for the numerous dents in the backside of my guitars. Maybe when my wife and I finally buy a house next year, I'll finally get a room to put my music gear in and I can have a separate chair that doesn't dent my guitars. I'm also wanting three new guitars and a new amp so I'm going to need that room.
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landgrabber posted:yeah it's like, a decent used guitar and a decent used aeron are both like $500-$600. I’ve been happy with my Håg Capisco. I haven’t tried an Aeron, but the Capisco is pretty capable and comfy. Between that and a G&L, I guess I’d have to weigh my options carefully. I will say downsizing my collection was well worth it. Regret that less than upsizing it anyway.
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The know your gear podcast guy was just talking about G&L guitars having low resale like Carvins because every G&L is basically a custom shop order. They have a list of stuff you pick from and they build it to your spec.
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Every USA made G&L I have played has been amazing. The tribute series are hit or miss. I have a tribute tele (asat) that I paid 300 for that's better than most teles I've ever played. I bought a tribute Rampage online and it was junk. Sold it pretty quick.
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nitsuga posted:I’ve been happy with my Håg Capisco. I haven’t tried an Aeron, but the Capisco is pretty capable and comfy. I actually only have a telecaster, specifically wanting a strat to immediately put a humbucker in the bridge, so it IS pretty useful/does things I can’t do with a telecaster. I probably need a good chair more, my current one is literally falling apart, but, you know. Impulsiveness/romance
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landgrabber posted:I actually only have a telecaster, specifically wanting a strat to immediately put a humbucker in the bridge, so it IS pretty useful/does things I can’t do with a telecaster. I probably need a good chair more, my current one is literally falling apart, but, you know. Impulsiveness/romance Eh, I still have a whole bunch of gear, so I get it. The heart wants what it wants.
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Dec 12, 2020 03:21
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Buy an HSS superstat and sit on a stack of apple crates imo.
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mango sentinel posted:Buy an HSS superstat and sit on a stack of apple crates imo. Buy 15 super strats and sit on the 14 you aren’t playing at the moment.
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Dec 12, 2020 04:08
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The Yngvie method!
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G&L has the Fender mystique of being more “real” than the actual Fender. They work in the same office/factory Leo worked at until he died which doesn’t mean anything per se but speaks to a certain ageless quality that is cool. I also happen to think their stuff plays and sounds great and I prefer them to equivalent Fender models. Edit: plus, Jerry Cantrell’s titty guitar.
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Baron von Eevl posted:The Yngvie method! Sitting on his throne of axes all crown of of rampant stallion silhouettes.
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When you play the throne of strats, you either shred or you die.
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well I went to play with my older brother and in the process of leaving I backed over a rock and blew a tire, so maybe neither are happening. moral of the story: do not jam with other people or go anywhere
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landgrabber posted:well I went to play with my older brother and in the process of leaving I backed over a rock and blew a tire, so maybe neither are happening. I hope your jam goes off
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The last time I went to jam with others (organised via local musicians Facebook) when I got to the space it turned out the drummer was one of my mental health patients. I left immediately, managed to keep the 'fuckssake' in my head rather than saying it out loud. He was using a different name and someone else's picture- really sparse profile that was mostly shared music videos. I've met a couple drummers like that before. The real kicker? He can't drum for poo poo and I'd had a disaster jam with him a few years ago before I got this job.
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I don't think I've had a single jam or "hey yeah man we're trying to start a band yeah we got a drummer we just need a second guitarist" where the drummer wasn't batshit/an alcoholic/garbage. Spinal Tap was a documentary
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If I have a multi-effects pedal AND real pedals... where does the multi go in my signal chain? Is this just an awful idea? I assume it depends on what the real pedals I've got are.
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I would say it depends on what you're primarily going to be using the multi for. Is it mostly going to be delays and reverbs? Is that going to be your main distortion box? Mostly for flangers, phasers, chorus, wah, etc? Figure out why you want a multifx on your board and put it where you'd like those pedals to go. That said I tried that once with the old Roland multi I had from highschool and I realized A-B'ing it that literally any signal that went through it sounded loving terrible, even when it was bypassed. It just sucked all the life out of the board. Baron von Eevl fucked around with this message at 04:25 on Dec 14, 2020 |
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mango sentinel posted:If I have a multi-effects pedal AND real pedals... where does the multi go in my signal chain? Is this just an awful idea? I assume it depends on what the real pedals I've got are. It's highly dependent on what your actual pedals are/what sound you're going for, but there's nothing inherently wrong with the idea. My setup is guitar -> real OD -> multifx unit -> real looper -> amp.
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I was pleasantly surprised to find that my multi-fx (a Mooer Black Truck) has an effects loop of its own (after distortion / before modulation, and switchable before or after EQ), so that opens up possibilities. Not sure if that's a common feature on multi-fx's though.
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The Mooer GE100 is the multi fx I'm looking at but I cant find anything suggesting it's got its own loop. I was gonna start with the Mooer, then fill in some staples from Behringer's cheap clones over time. All the pricey pedals I want are esoteric modulation effects so I'm less interested in investing in more feature rich staple pedals. Other option is just to buy like four Behringer pedals out the gate for the same money, prob like Tube Screamer, Compression, DS-1, and Chorus. I'm getting real pedals and saving in the long run but losing some effects, drum loops, and amp modeling. Any thoughts on which course of action?
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Spent yesterday going around looking at guitars at a few different places. Played through the newest generation of the deville/hot rod deluxe. Played the gretsch streamliners, some of the squier paranormal telecasters and a few player telecasters. Really wanted to try a classic vibe 70s tele thinline but none of the stores had one in. Also played every acoustic over $300 and liked the $750 Martin the most. I'm looking at used hot rods and deville's now. Those clean and overdriven tones are so good and they'll make great pedal amps. They sounded good with every guitar I played. They had one used deville 2x12 for $500 in great shape.
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mango sentinel posted:The Mooer GE100 is the multi fx I'm looking at but I cant find anything suggesting it's got its own loop. I strongly recommend starting with a multieffect unit over individual pedals, especially if you're a relative beginner. Differences between any two pedals can be extreme or subtle. An MFX unit lets you play around with dozens of different pedal styles to see exactly what you like or dislike. Take overdrive for example. Maybe you immediately vibe with a TS, but what if the Klon sounds better with your rig? An MFX lets you quickly switch back and forth, and try out a thousand different combinations with all of the other components. I picked up a $200 Zoom G3xn a few years back and couldn't be happier. If I were gigging or recording an album, I might look into getting "real" pedals to get the 100% exact sound I want, but for bedroom playing, it'll get you 95% of the way there. Edit: Also I can't overstate how fun it is to dial in a totally stupid sound that you'd never get out of a "practical" pedal collection. I'm never going to buy an auto-wah or an envelope filter, but it's a blast to throw on those and an octaver and go to town. Lester Shy fucked around with this message at 05:57 on Dec 14, 2020 |
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Kazinsal posted:I don't think I've had a single jam or "hey yeah man we're trying to start a band yeah we got a drummer we just need a second guitarist" where the drummer wasn't batshit/an alcoholic/garbage. that's funny, my older brother is a drummer and I guess I'm biased but he is literally the nicest person I've ever met. 27 with a job and when I popped my tire he offered to let me stay with him that night and wait until the next morning, or drive me home if I didn't feel comfortable doing it with the spare on, then gave me a little money to help me get another. couldn't ask him to be nicer (and he's the type of person where he'd do that for anyone he's close to)
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Verman posted:Spent yesterday going around looking at guitars at a few different places. Played through the newest generation of the deville/hot rod deluxe. Played the gretsch streamliners, some of the squier paranormal telecasters and a few player telecasters. Really wanted to try a classic vibe 70s tele thinline but none of the stores had one in. Also played every acoustic over $300 and liked the $750 Martin the most. I have a DeVille III 2x12 and can confirm it's loving brilliant. I had a 1x12 Deluxe I until recently and I kind of went back and forth on it, but they got rid of all of the poo poo I didn't like with the III and kept all of the poo poo I did. Awesome stuff. Possibly has something to do with the speakers being Celestions.
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Speaking of cheap pedals I just got a Mosky golden horse klone for like $23, it sounds pretty good for being 1/150th the price of the actual thing. The first couple times I heard a Klon I didn’t like it cause it sounded really thin but I feel like I should have learned by now that people demoing gear on YouTube always use vastly different settings than me.
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It's my impression people commonly use the klon trying to get a clean/transparent boost, which is totally stupid since the strong mids and warm dirt are like the whole point of the thing.
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The first multi effects thing I had was a Digitech GSP-21 Pro rack mount thing with a separate foot controller. I was happy with it at the time(I still have it packed away somewhere) but pretty quickly realized it was noisy as hell. I switched over to buying individual pedals, and eventually building a few. I ended up finding a Line 6 pod at a goodwill and it's pretty useless using it in front of an amp, but using it with headphones it's a good practice amp setup and has some strange patches that are fun to mess with.
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landgrabber posted:I have a DeVille III 2x12 and can confirm it's loving brilliant. I had a 1x12 Deluxe I until recently and I kind of went back and forth on it, but they got rid of all of the poo poo I didn't like with the III and kept all of the poo poo I did. Awesome stuff. Possibly has something to do with the speakers being Celestions. Yeah I go back and forth on what I really want. The devilles sound great clean but the drive channels of the older models felt a little loose and jangly for my taste compared to the tightness of the new versions, especially the hot rod deluxe. Then again, I'll likely use my ts9 for all my overdrive so maybe I don't need the drive. I think the older 4x10s are more than I need or want, I don't mind a 212 but I might prefer a 112 if I can find it. I'll probably lean towards the hot rod deluxe v3+. I really wish the "more drive" button had one knob to dial in the gain independently of the drive channel gain dial. I'll also add either an attentuator/power soak or add a volume box to the effects loop to get cranked amp tones at lower volumes. I need a power soak for my sovtek mig 100 anyway as anything over 1 on the volume knob will rumble my entire city block and break windows. I'm not even sure why it goes to 10. I've plugged it into 2-4x12 cabinets and played outdoors once and 2 drowned out our drummer. I really wish I had picked up a mig50 back when they weren't unobtanium prices. I bought mine new for $300 and seeing as they're tough to find now, I'll never get rid of it, it just sounds too good.
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Verman posted:Yeah I go back and forth on what I really want. The devilles sound great clean but the drive channels of the older models felt a little loose and jangly for my taste compared to the tightness of the new versions, especially the hot rod deluxe. Then again, I'll likely use my ts9 for all my overdrive so maybe I don't need the drive. I think the older 4x10s are more than I need or want, I don't mind a 212 but I might prefer a 112 if I can find it. I'll probably lean towards the hot rod deluxe v3+. The drive thing is really weird because to my ears it sounds similar, but there just aren’t days where I dislike it anymore? It’s subtly different but the difference goes a long, long way. I was getting tube distortion with it on the clean channel at “not that loud” volumes yesterday, playing about as loud as I needed to keep up with an acoustic drum set. My guitar volume was at 10 though. What I typically do is use the drive channel set to a specific point and then dial back my guitar volume knob a little bit. Quiet guitar signal into an amp just BEGGING to saturate something has been what’s given me results I like.
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So far the only multi effects unit I've ever owned has been amplitube, and then the katana. Which both taught me that if I went back to a conventional amp setup, only two delays and a reverb just isn't enough and I will need a lot more.
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