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Kazzah posted:As far as I can tell it all comes down to this website for expectant mothers mumsnet it's called. I just think it's the latest bogeyman for right-wingers to kick at. Can't openly trash different races anymore, let's culture war over trans people.
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Dec 14, 2020 01:36
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MysticalMachineGun posted:mumsnet it's called. I reckon it’s more that gay panic particularly in respect to kids being “turned gay” if they see the wrong music video or whatever (“it’s just a phase she is going through at uni”) has finally become so generally unacceptable in many Western places (nowhere near most or all) that this is the next step - it’s always about general disquiet towards progressivism, especially in culture, and the only battleground they feel safe on warring it is protecting children/teens.
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Blamestorm posted:I reckon it’s more that gay panic particularly in respect to kids being “turned gay” if they see the wrong music video or whatever (“it’s just a phase she is going through at uni”) has finally become so generally unacceptable in many Western places (nowhere near most or all) that this is the next step - it’s always about general disquiet towards progressivism, especially in culture, and the only battleground they feel safe on warring it is protecting children/teens. Hadn't thought of it as gay panic v2, but that makes a lot of sense
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Dec 14, 2020 01:46
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JBP posted:What's the trigger with the UK? Like is it just their lovely papers upping circulation with the typical hate campaign or what? background white 2nd wave feminism not being challenged by POC.
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Dec 14, 2020 02:14
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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/07/opinion/terf-trans-women-britain.html This is a good summary of the history of UK transphobia. Despite Nine/Fairfax's latest turn I'm still fairly optimistic about the trajectory of trans rights here overall - a lot of state governments have made important reforms with birth certificates recently, Queensland is planning to soon as well, and even a concerted campaign from the Murdoch press and the Christian right wasn't enough to get the Morrison government to take up their fearmongering about CHILDREN BEING TRANSED.
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Dec 14, 2020 02:16
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Is proliferation of Terfism on parenting sites due to the conflict between "Parent identity" where you think of the child as yours and an extension of yourself, and the realisation that the child is actually their own person? I don't know if that adequately expresses what I'm trying to say.
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Dec 14, 2020 03:11
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https://www.theguardian.com/austral...lication-lodged How is she still in power? In November last year NSW deputy coroner Derek Lee found “it was neither necessary nor appropriate for David to be moved and that he did not pose a security risk." He said: "From a medical point of view there was no evidence of any acute condition which would have warranted a cell transfer." However, he said none of the five guards should face disciplinary action. Their conduct, Lee said, “was limited by systemic efficiencies in training” and was “not motivated by malicious intent”. But the Dungay family said they will fight for somebody to be made accountable for his death. “It’s plain and simple, the use of force was a contributing factor to his death,” Dungay’s nephew, Paul Silva, told Guardian Australia. “If you take that use of force out, would David Dungay still be alive today? ” ISSUES RAISED Medical care required but not all given, procedures not all followed, injured in custody, force used, mental health / cognitive impairment.
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Dec 14, 2020 03:45
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Cartoon posted:https://www.theguardian.com/austral...lication-lodged Liberal, NewsCorp, Feds, etc
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Dec 14, 2020 03:52
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We've passed the point of political figures getting in trouble (unless it's, like, a Greens candidate breaking decorum on Twitter.)
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Dec 14, 2020 04:19
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Uhhh someone find that Matt cabanas thing from the other day definitely not saying his feefees were hurt by a new female greens senator not showing respect. E Canavan?
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Dec 14, 2020 04:35
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MysticalMachineGun posted:Liberal, NewsCorp, Feds, etc Complete lack of opposition too
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Amoeba102 posted:Is proliferation of Terfism on parenting sites due to the conflict between "Parent identity" where you think of the child as yours and an extension of yourself, and the realisation that the child is actually their own person? No, I think that you've done pretty well. My partner and I are expecting, and it's very easy to do this. All we can really do is be aware of it.
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Dec 14, 2020 05:56
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Amoeba102 posted:Is proliferation of Terfism on parenting sites due to the conflict between "Parent identity" where you think of the child as yours and an extension of yourself, and the realisation that the child is actually their own person? I imagine it's that plus a lot of their expectations of who their child was/is going to become get thrown out of the window. Except rather than go "oh, guess I got it wrong" and bonding with/appreciating their child differently, they instead flip out and insist their child is "just being difficult" or "going through a phase" for not fitting into a societal mould.
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it seems to come out of nowhere to the parent (like the complaint about their son being "happy playing with girl's toys as a child"), and partially this is because sometimes trans people don't start feeling that way until they hit puberty (i don't know if there's any at all decent studies about childhood vs adolescent onset prevalence), but also it's often because the child has correctly identified the parent is the sort of person who's going to react badly and thus deliberately hides things that may be a 'sign' from the parent. there's been a big push by transphobes to try to discredit adolescent onset gender dysphoria as completely invalid under the term "rapid onset gender dysphoria" which basically just means the parent was surprised and is convinced their child is just very confused/is trying to be trendy/rebelling/all those exact talking points from the terrible SMH opinion piece.
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Dec 14, 2020 06:40
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lih posted:it seems to come out of nowhere to the parent (like the complaint about their son being "happy playing with girl's toys as a child"), and partially this is because sometimes trans people don't start feeling that way until they hit puberty (i don't know if there's any at all decent studies about childhood vs adolescent onset prevalence), but also it's often because the child has correctly identified the parent is the sort of person who's going to react badly and thus deliberately hides things that may be a 'sign' from the parent. there's been a big push by transphobes to try to discredit adolescent onset gender dysphoria as completely invalid under the term "rapid onset gender dysphoria" which basically just means the parent was surprised and is convinced their child is just very confused/is trying to be trendy/rebelling/all those exact talking points from the terrible SMH opinion piece. This does sound exactly the same situation as gay kids and their parents in, say, the '90s.
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Dec 14, 2020 07:27
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Amoeba102 posted:Is proliferation of Terfism on parenting sites due to the conflict between "Parent identity" where you think of the child as yours and an extension of yourself, and the realisation that the child is actually their own person? Eloquent and concise. What I was thinking.
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Dec 14, 2020 07:35
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Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha https://twitter.com/Scottludlam/status/1338412901351129088?s=20
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Dec 14, 2020 12:33
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Dec 14, 2020 12:51
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Dec 14, 2020 12:59
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Senor Tron posted:Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha https://i.imgur.com/RqITBRS.mp4
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Dec 14, 2020 13:02
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:Someone post the picture. 
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Dec 14, 2020 13:25
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Senor Tron posted:Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Labor delays live animal exports due to cruelty: incoherent screaming. Coalition permafucks our coal exports: silence.
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Dec 14, 2020 15:07
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Matt Canavan with the extreme brain genius move of saying we should also try to get them to stop buying our iron
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Dec 15, 2020 00:28
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Someone needs to stop führer Dan!!
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Dec 15, 2020 00:38
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When cultural Marxism goes too far!!!
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Dec 15, 2020 00:41
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No one who speaks German could be an evil man! Does Chris go throw rocks at the local Volkswagen dealership?
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Buttcoin purse posted:Someone needs to stop führer Dan!! Do we have to use führer now, instead of Dictator Dan? Could we drop the umlats too? They're unAustralian.
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Dec 15, 2020 00:56
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Senor Tron posted:Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha 
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Pikehead posted:Do we have to use führer now, instead of Dictator Dan? I dunno, I think führer is derived from something bad.
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https://www.theguardian.com/global/video/2017/feb/09/scott-morrison-brings-a-chunk-of-coal-into-parliament-video "Don't be afraid, don't be scared" An accidental win for the environment. Mr Jackamarra was found hanged in a cell in Broome at 2.10pm on 16 December 2015, four hours after a routine court appearance. He was awaiting paperwork to be released on bail. He was taken to hospital but unable to be revived. He had been discharged from a mental health service three days earlier. When the West Australian Department of Corrective Services called Jackamarra’s father to say his son had died in custody, they were initially unable to tell him his son’s first name or clarify which of his sons had died. It was listed for a callover on 3 August 2018. ISSUES RAISED Medical care required but not all given, mental health / cognitive impairment.
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Dec 15, 2020 02:14
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if Andrews said he didn't like sand Ughlmann would say he is literally Darth Vader
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Dec 15, 2020 04:25
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bowmore posted:if Andrews said he didn't like sand Ughlmann would say he is literally Darth Fader
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Dec 15, 2020 04:29
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Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein... Kinderficker? Seriously, though, that's one hell of a stretch. Does that mean 'folk music' is also Nazi tunes?
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Dec 15, 2020 04:35
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The nazis said 'mein fuhrer!" yet the LNP is all about keeping the mines open. Makes you think.
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Dec 15, 2020 06:03
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Jobs and growth "Work makes you free" 
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Dec 15, 2020 06:27
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It's a long bow so it must mean something for Kevin Rudd's leadership ambitions.
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Seems like a windup
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