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The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
i fell asleep in the theater during episode 1, didn't bother seeing the other two

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i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Gripweed posted:

Its a terrible fight. They just swing light swords at each other for several minutes, accomplishing nothing, until they get to the forcefield hall.

yeah it's the hallway with the pauses between the action that's the best part

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007
nobody remembers the twirling they only remember duel of the fates

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

all of star wars is bad. original trillogy, prequels, disney era. all absolute garbage. read real scifi, not Space Eragon

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019
I’m against the star wars. bring are troops home >:-(

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

Homeless Friend posted:

nobody remembers the twirling they only remember duel of the fates

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

T-man posted:

all of star wars is bad. original trillogy, prequels, disney era. all absolute garbage. read real scifi, not Space Eragon

I'm going to read some real sci-fi instead.

*reads Heinlein's "Treason"*

Oooo nevermind this sucks and is creepily horny and sexist and racist, going back to Star Wars.

I Before E
Jul 2, 2012

Majorian posted:

I'm going to read some real sci-fi instead.

*reads Heinlein's "Treason"*

Oooo nevermind this sucks and is creepily horny and sexist and racist, going back to Star Wars.

Read Samuel R. Delaney.

Apoplexy
Mar 9, 2003

by Shine
The only 'good' Star Wars lightsaber fight was in TFA, because it felt physical and impactful, hacking trees apart and having bodily harm feel like it's being inflicted upon the participants. The prequel duels are baby trash.

THS
Sep 15, 2017

the best lightsaber fight is when yoda pulls out his tiny lightsaber and starts flipping around everywhere and throwing things

Farm Frenzy
Jan 3, 2007

THS posted:

the best lightsaber fight is when yoda pulls out his tiny lightsaber and starts flipping around everywhere and throwing things

watchign that at age 8 was a very powerful moment for me. i think its when i discovered irony

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Apoplexy posted:

The only 'good' Star Wars lightsaber fight was in TFA, because it felt physical and impactful, hacking trees apart and having bodily harm feel like it's being inflicted upon the participants. The prequel duels are baby trash.

it was too dark

Gorn Myson
Aug 8, 2007






I Before E posted:

Read Samuel R. Delaney.
Sammy D is plenty horny tbf. That documentary about him starts off with him talking about the ridiculous amount of sex in New York pre-AIDS and how he organised his writing around it.

I loving love Samuel R Delaney.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

not sci-fi but my friend got really into piers anthony when we were 13 and yikes yikes yikes

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

I just recently read Dune.

Ostiosis
Nov 3, 2002

I'm just so tired of all these Star Wars

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

Ostiosis posted:

I'm just so tired of all these Star Wars

then get excited for Dune! there's like 20 Dune books, if Dune is successful we'll get Dune for years.

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

Greg Egan, Peter Watts.

e or you can read my egan/greg slash fiction, which is about a new form of math being developed by angler-fish vampires

T-man has issued a correction as of 04:51 on Dec 15, 2020

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

Gripweed posted:

then get excited for Dune! there's like 20 Dune books, if Dune is successful we'll get Dune for years.

the stars and the director of the movie are currently getting real mad at warner brothers, I don't know if a smooth launch can be expected.

https://twitter.com/people/status/1338587677344624641?s=20

TeenageArchipelago
Jul 23, 2013


Gripweed posted:

then get excited for Dune! there's like 20 Dune books, if Dune is successful we'll get Dune for years.

Pretty sure the curse on Dune movie adaptations is what caused COVID

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

TeenageArchipelago posted:

Pretty sure the curse on Dune movie adaptations is what caused COVID

all part of the Golden Path, trust the Path.

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

uber_stoat posted:

the stars and the director of the movie are currently getting real mad at warner brothers, I don't know if a smooth launch can be expected.

https://twitter.com/people/status/1338587677344624641?s=20

did we need a The Matrix 4

will a Sopranos prequel be good?

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/12/iowa-caucus-dnc-report-444649

hate it when I hit compile and get systematic errors that give benefits to the person funding the app

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
Watch the Auralnauts saga instead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzSk0X6UFTs

some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Gorn Myson posted:

Sammy D is plenty horny tbf. That documentary about him starts off with him talking about the ridiculous amount of sex in New York pre-AIDS and how he organised his writing around it.

I loving love Samuel R Delaney.

The only reason anyone writes scifi is if they're incapable of being horny in a normal way

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Homeless Friend posted:

nobody remembers the twirling they only remember duel of the fates

John Williams is pretty much the only person in the prequel trilogy who was consistently giving a poo poo

Wrex Ruckus
Aug 24, 2015

Ostiosis posted:

I'm just so tired of all these Star Wars

I'm glad that line got cut because it would completely take you out of the movie

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

anyhow the best weird sci-fi sex is Octavia Butler's short story Bloodchild, look it up

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Gripweed posted:

then get excited for Dune! there's like 20 Dune books, if Dune is successful we'll get Dune for years.

There is zero chance they will make them beyond Children of Dune. Heretics and Chapterhouse are basically flat-out porn.

(God-Emperor would rule as a movie though)

Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

"Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."
Dune was always going to lose incredible amounts of money even it is amazing and even before every movie theater in the US closed indefinitely

If anything getting to release it on HBO Max instead and just quietly never reveal how few people made it past the first hour will let them save way more face over a wide release flop

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

Wolfsheim posted:

Dune was always going to lose incredible amounts of money even it is amazing and even before every movie theater in the US closed indefinitely

If anything getting to release it on HBO Max instead and just quietly never reveal how few people made it past the first hour will let them save way more face over a wide release flop

yep. Dune is perhaps even more niche than BR2049 which flopped pretty hard in the US. Dune was going to always lose money domestically pre-covid, but oh so so so harder post-covid. they'd be lucky to even get into high 7 figures.

Judakel
Jul 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
David Lynch is not to blame.

err
Apr 11, 2005

I carry my own weight no matter how heavy this shit gets...

Wolfsheim posted:

Dune was always going to lose incredible amounts of money even it is amazing and even before every movie theater in the US closed indefinitely

If anything getting to release it on HBO Max instead and just quietly never reveal how few people made it past the first hour will let them save way more face over a wide release flop

Yep. Rip the second movie.

Prince Myshkin
Jun 17, 2018

uber_stoat posted:

the stars and the director of the movie are currently getting real mad at warner brothers, I don't know if a smooth launch can be expected.

https://twitter.com/people/status/1338587677344624641?s=20

I bet if we checked to see who's complaining it would line up 1:1 with who has contracts guaranteeing a percentage of the theatrical gross.

thotsky
Jun 7, 2005

hot to trot
David Lynch Dune is one of my favorite movies. If Lynch had not had such a bad time making it that he denounced it critical opinion would have come around by now.

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

err posted:

Yep. Rip the second movie.

yeah that part sucks. there is 0% chance we get a dune 2

Grevling
Dec 18, 2016

I enjoyed Lynch Dune as a flawed but interesting spectacle, the costumes were great for example. I'm never watching the new Dune, or reading the books.

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

Grevling posted:

I enjoyed Lynch Dune as a flawed but interesting spectacle, the costumes were great for example. I'm never watching the new Dune, or reading the books.
im not watching it for dune, im watching it for Villeneuve

quote:

1984’s Dune is unquestionably the worst movie of Lynch’s career, and it’s pretty darn bad. In some ways it seems that Lynch was miscast as its director: Eraserhead had been one of those sell-your-own-plasma-to-buy-the-film-stock masterpieces, with a tiny and largely unpaid cast and crew. Dune, on the other hand, had one of the biggest budgets in Hollywood history, and its production staff was the size of a small Caribbean nation, and the movie involved lavish and cutting-edge special effects (half the fourteen-month shooting schedule was given over to miniatures and stop-action). Plus Herbert’s novel itself is incredibly long and complex, and so besides all the headaches of a major commercial production financed by men in Ray-Bans Lynch also had trouble making cinematic sense of the plot, which even in the novel is convoluted to the point of pain. In short, Dune’s direction called for a combination technician and administrator, and Lynch, though as good a technician as anyone in film, is more like the type of bright child you sometimes see who’s ingenious at structuring fantasies and gets totally immersed in them but will let other kids take part in them only if he retains complete imaginative control over the game and its rules and appurtenances—in short very definitely not an administrator.

Watching Dune again on video you can see that some of its defects are clearly Lynch’s responsibility, e.g. casting the nerdy and potato-faced Kyle MacLachlan as an epic hero and the Police’s resoundingly unthespian Sting as a psycho villain, or—worse—trying to provide plot exposition by having characters’ thoughts audibilized (w/ that slight thinking-out-loud reverb) on the soundtrack while the camera zooms in on the character making a thinking-face, a cheesy old device that Saturday Night Live had already been parodying for years when Dune came out. The overall result is a movie that’s funny while it’s trying to be deadly serious, which is as good a definition of a flop as there is, and Dune was indeed a huge, pretentious, incoherent flop. But a good part of the incoherence is the responsibility of De Laurentiis’s producers, who cut thousands of feet of film out of Lynch’s final print right before the movie’s release, apparently already smelling disaster and wanting to get the movie down to more like a normal theatrical running-time. Even on video, it’s not hard to see where a lot of these cuts were made; the movie looks gutted, unintentionally surreal.

In a strange way, though, Dune actually ended up being Lynch’s “big break” as a filmmaker. The version of Dune that finally appeared in the theaters was by all reliable reports heartbreaking for him, the kind of debacle that in myths about Innocent, Idealistic Artists In The Maw Of The Hollywood Process signals the violent end of the artist’s Innocence—seduced, overwhelmed, hosed over, left to take the public heat and the mogul’s wrath. The experience could easily have turned Lynch into an embittered hack (though probably a rich hack), doing f/x-intensive gorefests for commercial studios. Or it could have sent him scurrying to the safety of academe, making obscure plotless l6mm.’s for the pipe-and-beret crowd. The experience did neither. Lynch both hung in and, on some level, gave up. Dune convinced him of something that all the really interesting independent filmmakers—Campion, the Coens, Jarmusch, Jaglom—seem to steer by. “The experience taught me a valuable lesson,” he told an interviewer years later. “I learned I would rather not make a film than make one where I don’t have final cut.”

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*


the president of the dsa has made a call to arms

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Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

crepeface posted:



the president of the dsa has made a call to arms

hes right

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