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My parents, sister, and my wife and I all put into a pot for a fortnight in France in the summer, as our gifts to each other. It’s worked well for years and covid has absolutely hosed it, and it will continue to be further hosed by Brexit. Ho hum. Since becoming a dad it has apparently become acceptable for me to have a few drinks on Xmas eve and then stay in a “technically sober, but I wouldn’t drive” state for about two weeks. It’s great! Edit: what a snipe. Here’s Charles glaring disapprovingly at my drunken, negligent self. 
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Comrade Fakename posted:The solution is that you should just celebrate Christmas. There is literally no reason not to. This is so dumb, even to someone who has mostly thrown off his Grinchiness and enjoys it as a rare time me, my folks and sister and brother-in-law are all in one house at the same time. "Just celebrate it" is a poo poo and unhelpful thing to throw in. If you're lonely then Christmas can be one of the most depressing and alienating times of the year. Also laughing at the idea that Christmas isn't oppressively more crassly commercial than any other say of the year. If Christmas was just one day to "party" I'm sure fewer people would be down on it but it's not. It's bare minimum a month of that poo poo: tat no one needs and will be in the bin by the end if January, obnoxiously cheerful adverts wall to wall on telly, the same 20 songs on a loop across radio, television, shops, taxis, any where you go. Worst of all of course is smug bellends telling you you're wrong if you don't enjoy it regardless if your reasons are related to personal trauma or just being a grumpy bastard or anything in between those extremes. (And nobody celebrates the August bank holiday. Taking it off is not comparable to Christmas)
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Dec 15, 2020 12:20
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justcola posted:Free yourself from the chains of turkey.  e:  "Obsessive Jews are a main cause of antisemitism" being something that has never gone to bad places before. Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 12:24 on Dec 15, 2020 |
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Dec 15, 2020 12:22
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 New UKMT Podcast For The UKMT https://twitter.com/PraxisCast/status/1338791852061896706?s=20 Come listen to us ramble about buying water futures, freeports, and privatised royal train toilets!
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Dec 15, 2020 12:23
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Christmas chat: Thanks for all your input, I shall ponder further. Withdraws into the bomb bay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h73PsFKtIck
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Dec 15, 2020 12:25
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Christmas as a day to be with family/friends and enjoy a meal and some company is wonderful. Christmas as a "season" from mid-November onwards is a gross performative orgy of capitalism which stresses me the gently caress out. Thanks for listening to my TED talk.
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forkboy84 posted:It's bare minimum a month of that poo poo: tat no one needs and will be in the bin by the end if January, obnoxiously cheerful adverts wall to wall on telly, the same 20 songs on a loop across radio, television, shops, taxis, any where you go.
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Dec 15, 2020 12:28
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I wonder how late Johnson will leave reversing the Christmas rule. Really it's too late now to avoid a huge backlash but he does love half-heartedly doing what scientists tell him to do weeks after the fact. I'm betting we're told on the evening of the 22nd that Christmas is, in fact, cancelled - leaving no time for anyone to change their plans and get food in.
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Dec 15, 2020 12:29
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Nah he won't reverse it at all, he's going to compare thousands of preventable winter deaths to a regrettable Boxing Day hangover and come up with some awful catchphrase about making a New Year's resolution to "quit coronavirus once and for all".
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Dec 15, 2020 12:33
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:For overnight pondering: you should probably chill out a bit, it's just a fun time to catch up with friends and fam, a little light in the dark. just say you prefer not to celebrate it why does it need to be a drama.
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Dec 15, 2020 12:36
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well who could have foreseen this. The home office said this paper wasn't in the public interest replying to a FoI request from the independent  https://twitter.com/miqdaad/status/1338799039333212168?s=20
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Jose posted:well who could have foreseen this. The home office said this paper wasn't in the public interest replying to a FoI request from the independent everybody got what they wanted out of this, which was to turn it into another front in the culture war, and the victims as usual get nothing.
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Jose posted:well who could have foreseen this. The home office said this paper wasn't in the public interest replying to a FoI request from the independent Oh good, this will shut up those people on Twitter who reply to every mention of Islamophobia with rants about grooming gangs. Glad that's over. gh0stpinballa posted:you should probably chill out a bit, it's just a fun time to catch up with friends and fam, a little light in the dark. just say you prefer not to celebrate it why does it need to be a drama. My reading is that the entire conversation is about why she prefers not to celebrate Christmas.
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gh0stpinballa posted:you should probably chill out a bit, it's just a fun time to catch up with friends and fam, a little light in the dark. just say you prefer not to celebrate it why does it need to be a drama. I haven't celebrated it and have spent it alone - or just me and the kitties - for 25 years now. It wasn't a drama at all until I moved back nearer family 5 years ago and who are making it a bloody drama every year now. It's very stressful actually, the huge emotional blackmail that comes at me from all sides and that goes on for over a month. I just wish they'd accept it and leave me alone. (Overheard sub-voce comments such as "there is something wrong with people who don't want to celebrate christmas" do not help. ) Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 12:51 on Dec 15, 2020 |
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Dec 15, 2020 12:48
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therattle posted:I'm Jewish. We have had gatherings of friends on/around Xmas and it's nice but the day itself has zero significance. Christmas is a secular holiday so there's really no reason not to celebrate it if you're Jewish. But it sounds like you do anyway but with the day just shifted a bit. Because all Christmas is is a party in the winter. forkboy84 posted:This is so dumb, even to someone who has mostly thrown off his Grinchiness and enjoys it as a rare time me, my folks and sister and brother-in-law are all in one house at the same time. I'm single, everyone in my family who I chose to associate with are dead, and I don't have many friends. Don't lecture me about loneliness at Christmas. I've got two weeks off work, I'm going to relax, play Cyberpunk, watch telly, eat some good food and make myself a big meal on Christmas day specifically. I'm looking forward to it, it's going to be nice. Just because my circumstances are bad is no reason to be resentful of other people having a good time, when the good time we're talking about is celebrating with family.
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i've been researching rotherham specifically for years and i am still astonished that a) the state and press were able to cover it up so effectively w race baiting and b) the left was so keen to fall for it. what was actually happening in south yorkshire - is graft, CSA and corruption (not incompetence) on a horrifying scale. the cops, social services, local councils and home office were all in on it. 1400 children over 20 years. the stories are there to find if you know where to look.
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Dec 15, 2020 12:52
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therattle posted:I'm Jewish. We have had gatherings of friends on/around Xmas and it's nice but the day itself has zero significance. I'm Jewish and I celebrate xmas because everyone around me does and it makes them happy.
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Dec 15, 2020 12:52
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Comrade Fakename posted:I'm single, everyone in my family who I chose to associate with are dead, and I don't have many friends. Don't lecture me about loneliness at Christmas. I wasn't, I was lecturing you about not being quite so smug and maybe accepting that people are allowed to not enjoy the things they don't enjoy. Great that you cope how you cope, let others cope how they want. Also Christmas is not a secular holiday, loving hell.
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Dec 15, 2020 12:53
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Miftan posted:I'm Jewish and I celebrate xmas because everyone around me does and it makes them happy. We celebrate Christmas with gifts of chocolate oranges.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:I haven't celebrated it and have spent it alone - or just me and the kitties - for 25 years now. It wasn't a drama at all until I moved back nearer family 5 years ago and who are making it a bloody drama every year now. yeah that is out of order. i take it they won't be happy with you saying "i just don't do christmas", seems like they should back off a tad.
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Dec 15, 2020 12:55
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Jedit posted:We celebrate Christmas with gifts of chocolate oranges. Ah, I see you hate your family and go begrudgingly with poo poo gifts. I can respect that!
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Dec 15, 2020 12:58
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forkboy84 posted:Also Christmas is not a secular holiday, loving hell. Also via the chimney.
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Jesus was Jewish & im pretty sure he celebrated christmas every year (although probably not in winter)forkboy84 posted:Also Christmas is not a secular holiday, loving hell.
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Dec 15, 2020 13:03
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Jose posted:well who could have foreseen this. The home office said this paper wasn't in the public interest replying to a FoI request from the independent And yet they publish it with the mugshots of twenty angry-looking brown people. Funny, that.
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Dec 15, 2020 13:04
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loving hell starmer is so poo poo saying schools should stay open still
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Jose posted:loving hell starmer is so poo poo saying schools should stay open still School closures are wrong while the
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My Christmas has been made cause I just received some of Camrath's amazing fudge. Totally lived up to the thread hype! If you see this thanks so much Camrath, this fudge will make some great presents 
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Dec 15, 2020 13:07
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Good News, everyone! (except those in Kent) Kent lorry park will not be ready in time for Brexit day deadline
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Anyone tried the Irish cream? I haven't yet, but 'alcoholic and creamy' just seems like such an obviously successful fudge flavour.
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Biggus Dickus posted:Good News, everyone! (except those in Kent) France expanding parking and processing facilities in Calais many months ago - those silly French, should just go with a sensible, grownup, just-in-time solution.
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Dec 15, 2020 13:10
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forkboy84 posted:I wasn't, I was lecturing you about not being quite so smug and maybe accepting that people are allowed to not enjoy the things they don't enjoy. Great that you cope how you cope, let others cope how they want. "Smug" is a pretty weird way to describe someone who just told you they'll be spending Christmas alone because their family is dead, but okay. Obviously people feel however they want as according to their own circumstances, but there's no point acting like there's anything wrong with there being one day a year where the vast majority of people have a good time. Christmas is a collection of ancient pagan religious festivals that have been defunct for many centuries and has been co-opted by modern society into a non-religious excuse to, again, have a party in the winter. All the Christians managed to do is staple a name onto it. Incidentally, Easter is exactly the same thing in the spring, but the Christians didn't even manage to get the name for that one.
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Anyone come up with a Brexit gently caress-Up Apologist Bingo card yet? I can already imagine "Teething troubles", "We're in this for the long term", "If the EU had..." and "If the EU hadn't...", " But the pandemic!", "Nobody could have predicted..." and the centre square, "At least we have ARE SOVRINTY". Also "It's Corbyn's fault" on there for some reason.
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Darth Walrus posted:Anyone tried the Irish cream? I haven't yet, but 'alcoholic and creamy' just seems like such an obviously successful fudge flavour. I got the dark chocolate and chilli but if that flavour comes back I'll be ordering immediately
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Payndz posted:Anyone come up with a Brexit gently caress-Up Apologist Bingo card yet? I can already imagine "Teething troubles", "We're in this for the long term", "If the EU had..." and "If the EU hadn't...", " But the pandemic!", "Nobody could have predicted..." and the centre square, "At least we have ARE SOVRINTY". I'm predicting a lot of "if Jiminy Crumbles hadn't blocked Theresa May's brilliant deal
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Payndz posted:Anyone come up with a Brexit gently caress-Up Apologist Bingo card yet? I can already imagine "Teething troubles", "We're in this for the long term", "If the EU had..." and "If the EU hadn't...", " But the pandemic!", "Nobody could have predicted..." and the centre square, "At least we have ARE SOVRINTY". Centre square is Corbyn, obviously. He's way too obvious a statment to go anywhere else.
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Christmas is not a secular holiday, but I'll grant it's been co-opted by capitalism in the same way that christianity co-opted Yule (and other pagan celebrations from various parts of Europe) in the first place. Don't get me wrong, I love christmas, I love the songs, I love the food, I love a lot of stuff to do with it, but it's not secular even if it can be celebrated in that way. Let's not forget we have a state religion in this country.
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mehall posted:Christmas is not a secular holiday, but I'll grant it's been co-opted by capitalism in the same way that christianity co-opted Yule (and other pagan celebrations from various parts of Europe) in the first place. Yeah it's a shame we can't have a genuinely secular "winter sucks, let's have lights and food" festival around the shortest day of the year. (Some) Christians would get upset that we were taking the religion out of Christmas, gammons would be angry at PC-woke-ifiying the word Christmas, and it could be off-putting to non-Christian religious people that it still contained many of the same symbols. Basically Christmas is a huge mess of contrasts.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:I haven't celebrated it and have spent it alone - or just me and the kitties - for 25 years now. It wasn't a drama at all until I moved back nearer family 5 years ago and who are making it a bloody drama every year now. Bobstar posted:Yeah it's a shame we can't have a genuinely secular "winter sucks, let's have lights and food" festival around the shortest day of the year. (Some) Christians would get upset that we were taking the religion out of Christmas, gammons would be angry at PC-woke-ifiying the word Christmas, and it could be off-putting to non-Christian religious people that it still contained many of the same symbols.
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