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Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

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indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

this is a poorly told tale cause I have no idea what any of this is or why it’s happening

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

indigi posted:

this is a poorly told tale cause I have no idea what any of this is or why it’s happening

The game is by a Taiwanese studio. It was originally banned from almost every platform because someone found out there was a placeholder texture that made fun of Xi Jinping and China got extremely mad about it and started a campaign back in June of 2019 to get it delisted

The studio went dark for over a year and came back with this and I guess GOG was given a call by the state and cancelled the release

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

Throatwarbler posted:

The question and my answer are not really meaningful in that context.

Most "immigrants" to the US and other western countries didn't immigrate because they love voting for old white rapists or guns or hate black people just like real Americans do. They went because the US is a rich country with better economic opportunities. It's just that for many, the easiest way to get a piece of that is to become an American citizen. If the US had some kind of guest worker program, like they did for Latin American and Filipino agricultural workers in the first half of the 20th century, or gave out long term work visas, most "immigrants" would be fine with that. But there's no political reason today for that to happen so the only way to do so is to immigrate.

If you, a foreigner, have a good economic opportunity in China today, you can already avail yourself of it easily, see all the child rapists in the GBS thread who teach English there. It's trivially easy as a foreigner to get some kind of work visa EDIT: and even permanent residency as the poster above says.

No one is going to give you an H1B visa to teach Chinese in America. There's no real comparability because American "immigration" is just a fig leaf for liberals over America's exploitative labor regime.

its also worth noting that this is a huge draw of our propaganda machine at this point we must be the best country in the world because everyone wants to come here and be a citizen

if we did stuff the same way other countries do it would be much easier to make apples to apples comparisons and find out that american exceptionalism is actually a myth

Fuligin
Oct 27, 2010

wait what the fuck??

Grapplejack posted:

The game is by a Taiwanese studio. It was originally banned from almost every platform because someone found out there was a placeholder texture that made fun of Xi Jinping and China got extremely mad about it and started a campaign back in June of 2019 to get it delisted

The studio went dark for over a year and came back with this and I guess GOG was given a call by the state and cancelled the release

to be exact, it wasn't 'China' in the sense of its government, it was a furious reaction from mainland gamers. Also appears to be the case in this instance

I have no idea what cdprojekt was expecting, the most cursory research on the game would have predicted this

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

Fuligin posted:

to be exact, it wasn't 'China' in the sense of its government, it was a furious reaction from mainland gamers. Also appears to be the case in this instance

I have no idea what cdprojekt was expecting, the most cursory research on the game would have predicted this

Maybe the first time but there's zero chance anyone remembers or cares about this a year+ later; my guess is someone in the government stepped in to stop it and score some points with Xi since CDPR is relying pretty heavily on China to make up for bad western cyberpunk sales

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007
da big lai

Catgirl Al Capone
Dec 15, 2007

Grapplejack posted:

Maybe the first time but there's zero chance anyone remembers or cares about this a year+ later; my guess is someone in the government stepped in to stop it and score some points with Xi since CDPR is relying pretty heavily on China to make up for bad western cyberpunk sales

but that's just a theory...a game theory

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Grapplejack posted:

Maybe the first time but there's zero chance anyone remembers or cares about this a year+ later; my guess is someone in the government stepped in to stop it and score some points with Xi since CDPR is relying pretty heavily on China to make up for bad western cyberpunk sales

Did the game actually sell bad?

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

genericnick posted:

Did the game actually sell bad?

Cyberpunk? no not really but we're not talking about like, real sales, we're talking about what investors expected sales to be.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC

genericnick posted:

Did the game actually sell bad?

Sales have cratered now that people, especially Xbone and PS4 owners, are seeing how poorly it's running.

https://www.gameinformer.com/2020/12/15/cdpr-conference-call-reveals-last-gen-cyberpunk-2077-neglect-no-refund-agreement-in

quote:

Investors on the call were then able to ask questions, asking what happened to make sales decrease so much in a span  of just four days, especially so for last-gen consoles. Nielubowwicz said that despite doing "good initial sales," the fact that last-gen versions were seemingly left in the dust caused that dramatic pivot. Nowakowski added that "throwing more [developers] at it" would not have made the quality of the last-gen version any better, and the the team is still "collecting data" regarding all of the reasons behind the decline.

Not So Fast
Dec 27, 2007


Why do game publishers keep having to learn about the Streisand Effect? Did they really think a tweet like that would go unnoticed?

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
So I was watching somebody play Cyberpunk and a character made an anti capitalist rant Keanu Reevs lol. Is the writer for real or this is a dumb Fight Club Anarchist thing?

Also the game has full blown Chinese dialogue dub, I need to watch a Chinese playthrough when I get around to it and see of they cut out the sex scenes. This game is so horny.

stephenthinkpad has issued a correction as of 00:11 on Dec 17, 2020

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

stephenthinkpad posted:

So I was watching somebody play Cyberpunk and a character made an anti capitalist rant Keanu Reevs lol. Is the writer for real or this is a dumb Fight Club Anarchist thing?

what do u think?

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Cyberpunk as a genre is basically rooted in the idea that while capitalism sucks, there is no alternative. So as a political statement, cyberpunk works aren't all that threatening to capitalism.

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Atrocious Joe posted:

Cyberpunk as a genre is basically rooted in the idea that while capitalism sucks, there is no alternative. So as a political statement, cyberpunk works aren't all that threatening to capitalism.

I don’t think it denies alternatives as much as it imagines that capital is (or will become) powerful enough to stomp them out

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
I think Gibson's Pheripheral has the most accurate prediction of where the US capitalism is going in 3 decades (redneck militant capitalism)

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/UberFacts/status/1335968813611962375?s=20

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

What are some unique Chinese oaths? Like how many Americans swear on their mother, or by god, what do Chinese folks swear by?

THS
Sep 15, 2017

Deng’s Teeth!!

sincx
Jul 13, 2012

furiously masturbating to anime titties
.

sincx has issued a correction as of 05:32 on Mar 23, 2021

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

THS posted:

Deng’s Teeth!!

lol a book I’m reading had a character say “maos balls”, when the neomaoist colony on mars gets discovered by the alien ai radar scanner.

that’s why I asked.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

PawParole posted:

What are some unique Chinese oaths? Like how many Americans swear on their mother, or by god, what do Chinese folks swear by?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3TbUGy2asU

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
i wonder who the market for those broadway party musicals are? old people?

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011


this seems unlikely

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
imagine being a regulator whose job was to watch tv and make sure nobody did any puns

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Some Guy TT posted:

this seems unlikely
uh yeah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNp1iNc4gwk&t=123s

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

Some Guy TT posted:

this seems unlikely

it's basically impossible given how the language works

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007
they’re easily scrutable

Catgirl Al Capone
Dec 15, 2007

stephenthinkpad posted:

So I was watching somebody play Cyberpunk and a character made an anti capitalist rant Keanu Reevs lol. Is the writer for real or this is a dumb Fight Club Anarchist thing?

Also the game has full blown Chinese dialogue dub, I need to watch a Chinese playthrough when I get around to it and see of they cut out the sex scenes. This game is so horny.

johnny silverhands is the stereotypical media adventurist anarchist

Red and Black
Sep 5, 2011

cyberpunk has some critiques of capitalism but it's not socialist or anything

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
I think these 3 news are related and can be discussed together.

1. PWS Anderson and his wife's awful video game movie Monster Hunter include a very unfunny joke about knees and chinese in a dialogue spoken by an Asian actor. The "movie" was even funded by Tencent, why was this not cut out I will never know. The CCP got wind of the this and promptly cancel its theatrical showing.


2. A Taiwanese game Devotion included a Xi Jinping easter egg joke? Got taken down from Steam 1 years ago. It was put on GOG for like 4 hours and quickly taken down after Chinese gamer unleashed the internet fury. I don't want to sound like an apologizer but they should have changed the name of the studio and the game and regroup.

3. Asus partnered with hololive to promote a ROG related gear yesterday, since Hololive got out of China due to a vtuber anti-Chinese comments? (I refuse to get to the bottom of this because its about vtubers), Chinese vbuter fans engaged and Asus cancelled the promote after a few hours.

stephenthinkpad has issued a correction as of 15:04 on Dec 17, 2020

RocknRollaAyatollah
Nov 26, 2008

Lipstick Apathy

stephenthinkpad posted:

I think these 3 news are related and can be discussed together.

1. PWS Anderson and his wife's awful video game movie Monster Hunter include a very unfunny joke about knees and chinese in a dialogue spoken by an Asian actor. The "movie" was even funded by Tencent, why was this not cut out I will never know. The CCP got wind of the this and promptly cancel its theatrical showing.


2. A Taiwanese game Devotion included a Xi Jinping easter egg joke? Got taken down from Steam 1 years ago. It was put on GOG for like 4 hours and quickly taken down after Chinese gamer unleashed the internet fury. I don't want to sound like an apologizer but they should have changed the name of the studio and the game and regroup.

3. Asus partnered with hololive to promote a ROG related gear yesterday, since Hololive got out of China due to a vtuber anti-Chinese comments? (I refuse to get to the bottom of this because its about vtubers), Chinese vbuter fans engaged and Asus cancelled the promote after a few hours.

The Hololive thing is dumb. It was over a vtuber inadvertently referring to Taiwanese users in a breakdown of viewer stats by viewing nation. Chinese netizens flipped out about it.

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

i don’t know what any of that stuff is

Catgirl Al Capone
Dec 15, 2007

fart simpson posted:

i don’t know what any of that stuff is

vtubers stream entertainment to the larger internet while representing themselves as a potato wearing the anonymous mask

sincx
Jul 13, 2012

furiously masturbating to anime titties
.

sincx has issued a correction as of 05:32 on Mar 23, 2021

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020

RocknRollaAyatollah posted:

The Hololive thing is dumb. It was over a vtuber inadvertently referring to Taiwanese users in a breakdown of viewer stats by viewing nation. Chinese netizens flipped out about it.

According to some chinese vtuber fans, the whole platform has been doing "passive aggressive apologies" over various incidents. I ain't going to watch some vtube video to verify it. I do think a platform (a business with actual office space and payroll) letting one of its talent/performers use "gently caress u never come back" as a way to end the relationship with an entire market is very strange.

I mean you are not a solo uploader. People are going to hold this grudge against you for many years. Dspgaming's haters still gently caress with him online after so many years.

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010



stephenthinkpad posted:

According to some chinese vtuber fans, the whole platform has been doing "passive aggressive apologies" over various incidents. I ain't going to watch some vtube video to verify it. I do think a platform (a business with actual office space and payroll) letting one of its talent/performers use "gently caress u never come back" as a way to end the relationship with an entire market is very strange.

I mean you are not a solo uploader. People are going to hold this grudge against you for many years. Dspgaming's haters still gently caress with him online after so many years.

The antis are horrible poo poo and most of the hate they get is specifically from china, some of the more popular girls have straight up said "You make me do a direct apology to these fuckers and I'll quit". Like one of the girls had the gal to show a video from the chinese equivalent of youtube one time and they started flaming her and sending her pictures of dead rabbits (the vtuber is a rabbit girl)

The company basically decided to sever most of their reach in china because they weren't growing fast enough there and couldn't leverage the main strength of the company, which is doing collaborations with the rest of their talent. Instead the expanded to the west and they are doing significantly better.

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

stephenthinkpad posted:

I think these 3 news are related and can be discussed together.

1. PWS Anderson and his wife's awful video game movie Monster Hunter include a very unfunny joke about knees and chinese in a dialogue spoken by an Asian actor. The "movie" was even funded by Tencent, why was this not cut out I will never know. The CCP got wind of the this and promptly cancel its theatrical showing.


2. A Taiwanese game Devotion included a Xi Jinping easter egg joke? Got taken down from Steam 1 years ago. It was put on GOG for like 4 hours and quickly taken down after Chinese gamer unleashed the internet fury. I don't want to sound like an apologizer but they should have changed the name of the studio and the game and regroup.

3. Asus partnered with hololive to promote a ROG related gear yesterday, since Hololive got out of China due to a vtuber anti-Chinese comments? (I refuse to get to the bottom of this because its about vtubers), Chinese vbuter fans engaged and Asus cancelled the promote after a few hours.

the vtuber thing is because one of the vtubers was going over stats by location and taiwan was listed as its own separate location. They engaged and hololive decided just to pull out of china rather than sacrifice one of their talent

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Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

sincx posted:

1. lol
2. lol
3. loool

I hate gamer culture

"""gamers"""

it's more chinese netizens, who have the thinnest skin I have ever seen for people rah-rah about their empire. It's like if there was a bi-weekly freedom fries / dixie chicks incident.

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