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CYBEReris posted:tumblr has nothing on livejournal, a lot of the stories from there have been lost to time but dear god was it a mess Yeah, tumblr gets a lot of poo poo, but livejournal was all of the drama with even less scrutiny which meant it was a haven rife with abuse, exploitation, and grift. The bombast of modern social media kinda backgrounds it now, but prior to the late aughts, most social spaces on the internet were home to some genuinely heinous poo poo.
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Dec 16, 2020 21:32
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Documenting Livejournal shenanigans for the future was the germinating idea for Encyclopedia Dramatica before it fell to 4chan.
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Dec 16, 2020 21:46
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Does Kyle Kallgren still post here, I wanna get fake internet angry at him over still not reviewing Motocrossed during any of his Shakespeare stuff.
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Dec 16, 2020 21:49
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Casey Finnigan posted:tumblr was really not that toxic compared to twitter. It was mostly stupid teens with somewhat good intentions and scammers. That's the thing - Tumblr was loud but was missing two final steps to make it just as bad: 1) The average person had no idea it existed, nor did most celebrities and corporations, and those that did were chased off for their "how do you do, fellow children" vibe 2) Your feed was still your feed - the ads had started to show up, but around peak tumblr you weren't going to see JoeAmerican85930's post showing up in your feed, only in your reblog notifications. Unless you specifically responded to their reblog with comments, or their comments, followers would never notice, and the blog/reblog style made following anything a mess. Now, the relative isolation of Tumblr plus the really young userbase made it ripe for misinformation, often well-crafted. I used to run a tumblr blog for debunking and while a whole lot of it was the same stuff from facebook/lj/myspace there was some stuff that clearly had effort; one that stuck out was a listicle of "5 time the medical community abused PoC" and the first four were true historical cases and then they tucked in Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation antivax myths for number 5. My debunking channel had apparently managed to catch at least a few Russian disinfo posts, because I got the email from Tumblr after that whole blowup that I had reblogged targeted disinfo. That being said, I expect high schoolers to be fooled by poo poo like that, not members of congress. But yeah, there was mostly a lot of good intentions, and people too young to realize the "cool idea" is the easy part, and actually implementing it (or making it fun) was the hard part; I don't even know if all cases were "scams" as much as "insane optimism". A few times where a few drawings and a paragraph of text became a videogame concept and people just seemed to expect that would make it work. And a whole lot of people trying to punch up by doing everything they could to invent hot takes by calling every inept kickstarter a scam by evil villains because that got the reblogs. I left when it became obvious the right wing troll bots were starting to take root, search for tags and start poo poo everywhere and when my ads became literally sketchy online casino ads. Good thing there weren't any nipples, however.
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Dec 16, 2020 21:58
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Ghostlight posted:Documenting Livejournal shenanigans for the future was the germinating idea for Encyclopedia Dramatica before it fell to 4chan. That was all born on ljdrama, which very much had the kiwifarms thing going on where most of the posters mocking the obsessed stalkers on lj were themselves obsessively stalking said people. I had to deal with an ljdrama slapfight that spilled over into borderline threats of violence at an event I was staffing.
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Dec 16, 2020 22:06
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Oh, I know it was doomed from the start to consume itself, but it did have that initial pretence of 'historiography' in the IRC.
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Dec 16, 2020 22:53
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stillvisions posted:That's the thing - Tumblr was loud but was missing two final steps to make it just as bad: format wise it was also way easier to counter disinformation on tumblr - you'd get a post talking about how secretly bill gates is injecting microchips into tiny African babies and then immediately after, in the same post, could be the receipts the original post could still make its way around but usually the most popular version of the post would be the one with correct info.
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Dec 16, 2020 22:55
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FirstAidKite posted:Does Kyle Kallgren still post here, I wanna get fake internet angry at him over still not reviewing Motocrossed during any of his Shakespeare stuff. No. Every Ex-Channel Awesome creator who used to post here has since been scared off by people being loving bonkers in this thread and elsewhere.
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Dec 17, 2020 00:27
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nine-gear crow posted:No. Every Ex-Channel Awesome creator who used to post here has since been scared off by people being loving bonkers in this thread and elsewhere. drat, that sucks what'd people do to scare them off?
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Dec 17, 2020 00:33
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This thread is not healthy.
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Dec 17, 2020 00:51
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FirstAidKite posted:drat, that sucks what'd people do to scare them off? Lindsay was outed by boogie(If that's not his name I don't Particularly stans.) Dan might still be posting in the Tabletop corner of SA but is probably driven off from here.
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Dec 17, 2020 00:51
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I don't think that it was boogie specifically but Lindsay used to post a little more personally here but those posts would make their way to reddit as screenshots so she stopped.
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Dec 17, 2020 00:57
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people ITT yelled at dan for his serious tweets and his opinions about batman v superman with literally the exact same level of intensity until he left
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Dec 17, 2020 00:59
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Garrand posted:I don't think that it was boogie specifically but Lindsay used to post a little more personally here but those posts would make their way to reddit as screenshots so she stopped. yeah specifically she shared a story about boogie being weird and bad, she was mad it got posted to reddit but the paywall was down at the time so it could've been literally any weirdo who did it
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Dec 17, 2020 01:39
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it would be very surprising if it weren't our own boogie boy though
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Dec 17, 2020 01:45
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Farm Frenzy posted:people ITT yelled at dan for his serious tweets and his opinions about batman v superman with literally the exact same level of intensity until he left
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Dec 17, 2020 03:10
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Farm Frenzy posted:people ITT yelled at dan for his serious tweets and his opinions about batman v superman with literally the exact same level of intensity until he left he actually left because he got all huffy about not being 'allowed' to call a woman accusing a friend of his a harasser a big ol liar because society's so biased to those drat black disabled women.
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Dec 17, 2020 03:16
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Few people who make videos still post here because goons get aggressive and try to bait them into responding. I don’t know what caused it, but it’s definitely gotten worse in the last 3-5 years. I swear to god this thread used to be fun.
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Dec 17, 2020 03:26
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It used to be before every new entry in the thread had to get peer reviewed to make sure the content creator wasn't an awful person because otherwise we'd get derails lasting for pages explaining exactly why X person is awful. Instead we get page long derails of debate about whether x person is awful or passes the purity test.
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Dec 17, 2020 03:28
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Looks like you're all stuck with me, I'm afraid.
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Dec 17, 2020 05:02
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Arcsquad12 posted:It used to be before every new entry in the thread had to get peer reviewed to make sure the content creator wasn't an awful person because otherwise we'd get derails lasting for pages explaining exactly why X person is awful. Instead we get page long derails of debate about whether x person is awful or passes the purity test. https://twitter.com/JediofGallifrey/status/1009447610506194945 Evergreen.
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Dec 17, 2020 05:04
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I mean it's happened enough times in this thread.
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Dec 17, 2020 05:29
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I think a lot about my teen years during the last years of LJ's relevance in fandom and the Superwholock era of Tumblr (wasn't onto those shows myself, but they were unavoidable). It certainly was an experience That said, even if it's not as active as before, a not small number of ppl I that followed on Tumblr and left for Twitter have come back to Tumblr.
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Dec 17, 2020 05:32
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Kim Justice posted:Looks like you're all stuck with me, I'm afraid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MiqPQ1dVg4 directed by Z A C K S N Y D E R
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Dec 17, 2020 05:40
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^I don't like his adaptation as a whole, but they nailed the casting for Rorschach. A lot of people got tired of watching a new person and then hearing them go on a really lovely rant. The era of Trump made this way worse. It's especially true since the thread tends to deal with people doing analysis of stuff, if not outright political talk, so politics are going to eventually come up. It's not that weird for people to ask if anyone already knows the person  . The whole art and artist separation doesn't come up much because we don't tend to focus too much on apolitical funny channels. Although sometimes the thread does. I'm still looking for a good chill streamer to fill dead air with after Cryaotic's whole disgrace.
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Dec 17, 2020 05:40
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Parakeet vs. Phone posted:A lot of people got tired of watching a new person and then hearing them go on a really lovely rant. The era of Trump made this way worse. It's especially true since the thread tends to deal with people doing analysis of stuff, if not outright political talk, so politics are going to eventually come up. It's not that weird for people to ask if anyone already knows the person The only streamers I ever followed were Run Button. They’re not very active any more, but all their old stuff is still up on their youtube channel. They played every Sonic game in order and tried to do the same for Mario, eventually giving up around Galaxy.
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Dec 17, 2020 05:43
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Pat Stares At is my default streamer, then I dunno random goon ones. Also WoolieVS. And Vinny Vinesauce?
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Dec 17, 2020 06:01
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:The only streamers I ever followed were Run Button. They’re not very active any more, but all their old stuff is still up on their youtube channel. They played every Sonic game in order and tried to do the same for Mario, eventually giving up around Galaxy. They haven't exactly been pumping out content but they're definitely still active.
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Dec 17, 2020 06:06
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My default streamer will always be Limmy because he's hilarious and without question a good bloke. Chuds don't last long in his stream chat.
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Dec 17, 2020 07:29
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A Sometimes Food posted:Pat Stares At is my default streamer, then I dunno random goon ones. Also WoolieVS. And Vinny Vinesauce? I don't have the time or patience to actually watch streamers, but Vinny's YouTube highlights are always fantastic.
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Dec 17, 2020 09:59
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Kim Justice posted:My default streamer will always be Limmy because he's hilarious and without question a good bloke. Chuds don't last long in his stream chat.
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Dec 17, 2020 10:13
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God, I can't believe Twitch has now made it illegal to make fun of incels. What the gently caress, guys?
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Dec 17, 2020 10:16
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Getting around to watching Shaun's massive video on the Hiroshima & Nagasaki bombings and it is very good. I don't think I've ever seen a chronicle of the events so detailed and more important, even-handed. He does an incredible job unraveling the Kafkaesque nightmare of ego and bureaucracy that make the bombings feel at once completely pointless but also utterly inevitable. This bit in particular grabbed me, Skull Man posted:...which brings us back to one of the failures of morale bombing. Totalitarian militaristic regimes don't give a toss about their citizens.
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Dec 17, 2020 11:26
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Skippy McPants posted:Getting around to watching Shaun's massive video on the Hiroshima & Nagasaki bombings and it is very good. I don't think I've ever seen a chronicle of the events so detailed and more important, even-handed. He does an incredible job unraveling the Kafkaesque nightmare of ego and bureaucracy that make the bombings feel at once completely pointless but also utterly inevitable. You should check out Dan Carlin's Hardcore History podcast, especially the Supernova In The East series, if you like Shaun's vid. Goes over the entire Pacific theatre from the events that lead to Japan getting involved in WW2 all the way to the end of it. He explains things very clearly, cites numerous primary sources from both American and Japanese origins and gives you a very indepth look of just what Japanese leadership have been thinking during those years. https://www.dancarlin.com/hardcore-history-series/
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Dec 17, 2020 11:38
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Like Carlin but he is firmly in the dad history camp and doesn't really use newer sources.
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Dec 17, 2020 11:47
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Yeah, I listen to Calin. He is a superb historical storyteller, but as Terrible Opinions points out his historical perspective is very much is that of a revisionist liberal. Which isn't awful, he accepts and understands the crimes and costs of empire but even at his best, he has blind spots. Like in the Supernova In The East there is still an undercurrent of implicit jingoism. He has a morbid fascination with the awe of war and often wants to root for the USA, even when he knows he shouldn't because so much that was ground into him at a young age that it's hard to filter it all out.
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Dec 17, 2020 12:32
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Skippy McPants posted:This bit in particular grabbed me, That's the one part of the video that sticks out, because it's a correct point phrased in a wrong way. It treats is as a kind of Totalitarianism: +100% against morale bombing when 1. It'd be more accurate to say that while we have dozens of historical examples of failed morale bombing campaigns, we have no examples of successful ones. 2. It creates a false dichotomy of a "totalitarian" east that "isn't like us" when the government of Imperial Japan was based on the archetypal western constitutional monarchy of Prussia.
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Dec 17, 2020 14:21
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Microcline posted:2. It creates a false dichotomy of a "totalitarian" east that "isn't like us" when the government of Imperial Japan was based on the archetypal western constitutional monarchy of Prussia. I thought Shaun was also talking about Germany at that point.
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Dec 17, 2020 14:22
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Microcline posted:2. It creates a false dichotomy of a "totalitarian" east that "isn't like us" when the government of Imperial Japan was based on the archetypal western constitutional monarchy of Prussia.
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Dec 17, 2020 14:26
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geoff talks about sakuga, those parts of an anime episode that they really pour all the animation budget into, whether it's a fight scene, pivotal dramatic moment, or just a really nice shot of some people cooking or dancing. I'm not really sure why he chose that thumbnail for the video though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSkrywom0J8&hd=1 I appreciate that he marks each sakuga clip he uses with the animator who made it. my favorite sakuga animator is yoh yoshinori, his stuff is incredible. he's been in the industry since the founding of gainax iirc, and his stuff is all over the place, from evangelion to pokemon and especially Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann. geoff could have done an hour long video just focusing on yoh's stuff and barely scratched the surface. his animation style is so kinetic, moreso than most animators, you can really just FEEL every impact and weight to it all. There's this scene in Gurren Lagann that is an insanely animated attack sequence, there is so much going on in every single frame of this part, the impacts, the energy, the speed, the perspective, it's nuts. this was a tv anime, but yoh always puts his all into his stuff. https://i.imgur.com/BtcABV2.mp4 he used to have a deviantart account but I don't know if it still exists, guy is a huge fan of western animation like powerpuff girls, spongebob, etc and would regularly post doodles, short animations, fanart he drew, and keyframes of shows he worked on, it was great stuff. there's a few compilation AMVs of his sakuga from various shows/movies/animations on youtube, he really took part in a ton of different shows over the years: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH7-LxjT5V4&hd=1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFRDSbjnasY&hd=1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoyhpNM4zt4&hd=1 I believe he was also a driving force in the creation of Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt, which makes sense based on its style, and that show is loving incredible. man do I love me some amazing animation and rooting around in it frame by frame sometimes. 
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