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The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

StillFullyTerrible posted:

at a certain point i have to wonder why they don't just make a porn game in unity or something, it's not like it'd be especially more demanding than beating a bethesda product into shape

Those exist too.

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lurksion
Mar 21, 2013
They also look generally terrible, so I guess that's the continued appeal of Skyrim.

drkeiscool
Aug 1, 2014
Soiled Meat

StillFullyTerrible posted:

at a certain point i have to wonder why they don't just make a porn game in unity or something, it's not like it'd be especially more demanding than beating a bethesda product into shape

i mean, it's been almost a decade since skyrim came out, so there's probably plenty of tools and documentation to get your skyrim atronach twerking to work just right.

gyrobot
Nov 16, 2011

lurksion posted:

They also look generally terrible, so I guess that's the continued appeal of Skyrim.

Plus buggy and unfinished with vague promises on patreon that feeds into a self destructive cycle

RPATDO_LAMD
Mar 22, 2013

🐘🪠🍆

gyrobot posted:

Plus buggy and unfinished with vague promises on patreon that feeds into a self destructive cycle

if you're making $20,000 per month on patreon for continued development of your 3d furry porn game, of course it's never gonna be finished

Aithon
Jan 3, 2014

Every puzzle has an answer.

StillFullyTerrible posted:

at a certain point i have to wonder why they don't just make a porn game in unity or something, it's not like it'd be especially more demanding than beating a bethesda product into shape

Faster, most of the assets already in place, and easy exposure to any of a myriad of people already looking for Skyrim porn mods.

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


StillFullyTerrible posted:

at a certain point i have to wonder why they don't just make a porn game in unity or something, it's not like it'd be especially more demanding than beating a bethesda product into shape

It's hard to make things from scratch. Much easier to develop for an existing program.

Some do, though. Look at Haydee 1 & 2.

Glagha
Oct 13, 2008

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Aren't those Unity games though? I feel like that engine is designed for extremely quickly and cheaply slapping a 3D model on screen and moving it around, hence the prevalence of unity asset flips. I feel like Haydee is probably as close as you can get to a standalone porn mod as you can get.

Cernunnos
Sep 2, 2011

ppbbbbttttthhhhh~

Cup Runneth Over posted:

... Haydee... 2.

They made a sequel to that thing?

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

Cernunnos posted:

They made a sequel to that thing?

It's essentially the exact same game except she has a face now

Cernunnos
Sep 2, 2011

ppbbbbttttthhhhh~
I'm not sure if that counts as "they did better in the sequel" or not.

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


Apparently it's more like RE2make than a platformer now, so not quite the same game.

aniviron
Sep 11, 2014

Glagha posted:

Aren't those Unity games though? I feel like that engine is designed for extremely quickly and cheaply slapping a 3D model on screen and moving it around, hence the prevalence of unity asset flips. I feel like Haydee is probably as close as you can get to a standalone porn mod as you can get.

Unity, like most engines, is completely down to what you put into it. Here's what you can do with Unity if you have a competent team of people: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRkq046jqDE

But as the saying goes, garbage in, garbage out.

KataraniSword
Apr 22, 2008

but at least I don't have
a MLP or MSPA avatar.
I am my own man.

Yeah, Unity, similar to other widely-accessible game creation engines like RPGMaker or the like, is the haven of shovelware trash not because it's a bad engine, but because anybody with free time and $50 can churn out something with the lowest effort possible.

You can do fantastic things with both but that requires effort, and knowing how to design games, and giving a gently caress.

Either way, the accessibility is what makes it so popular for making low-budget trash on, not any sort of fault or flaw in the engine itself.

KataraniSword fucked around with this message at 04:29 on Dec 17, 2020

FuturePastNow
May 19, 2014


aniviron posted:

Unity, like most engines, is completely down to what you put into it. Here's what you can do with Unity if you have a competent team of people: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRkq046jqDE

But as the saying goes, garbage in, garbage out.

To give some idea of the range it can be used for, Cities: Skylines and Kerbal Space Program are both also Unity engine games.

Cardiovorax
Jun 5, 2011

I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.
Yeah, there are a lot of really, really good Unity games. The engine really doesn't deserve to get shat on for also providing a convenient framework to made bad games with.

Hel
Oct 9, 2012

Jokatgulm is tedium.
Jokatgulm is pain.
Jokatgulm is suffering.

The primary reason that Unity has a bad reputation is that if you make a game with the free version you need to have their splash screen but if you are serious enough to buy it you don't so a lot of trash has the Unity branding front and center while the ones with serious effort don't.

Wrr
Aug 8, 2010


kirbysuperstar posted:

It's essentially the exact same game except she has a face now

The "People" who play it are very upset about her having a face and are demanding mods to remove it.

Shugojin
Sep 6, 2007

THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...


Cardiovorax posted:

Maybe they forgot to patch it out of the localized text for some languages, I didn't play the game in English at the time. That's all I can really offer, I guess, because I do know for a fact that I didn't go out of my way to look something up that I only know about because I recall seeing it first-hand.

VVV Works for me.

I seem to recall there was an uncensored version of it in the secret Temple library?

TGLT
Aug 14, 2009

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/98106

MonkeyforaHead
Apr 7, 2006


God, you vindictive bitch, why can't I ever have any "me" time

Wrr posted:

The "People" who play it are very upset about her having a face and are demanding mods to remove it.

I mean really is it more or less worrying to want a face on the cheesecake character in the softcore porn game whose main purpose is objectification :shrug:

Cardiovorax
Jun 5, 2011

I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.
I think it says some disturbing things if someone finds that putting a face on the softcore porn character means they're not objectified enough for their taste anymore.

MonkeyforaHead
Apr 7, 2006


God, you vindictive bitch, why can't I ever have any "me" time

I would think part of the appeal of the original character design is that you basically wanna boink a leggy android with an iPhone aesthetic. Some people gently caress their cars after all, but they seem pretty harmless. :shepface: I'm sure if I were to actually read some of the posts screaming for her to be faceless there'd be plenty of counterpoints, but I want to give some benefit of the doubt to the robophiles.

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


I don't think she's a robot anymore in the second one, so calculate your misog-o-meters accordingly.

KataraniSword
Apr 22, 2008

but at least I don't have
a MLP or MSPA avatar.
I am my own man.


New Silent Hill Wiki mod looks great.

Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009

KataraniSword posted:

New Silent Hill Wiki mod looks great.

Does count as a deep cut (rimshot) at this point? I feel like it does.

MonkeyforaHead
Apr 7, 2006


God, you vindictive bitch, why can't I ever have any "me" time

Cup Runneth Over posted:

I don't think she's a robot anymore in the second one, so calculate your misog-o-meters accordingly.

I know I'm not up on my Haydee lore, but this is also confusing. What, did she wish real hard to The Good Fairy, or...?

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


MonkeyforaHead posted:

I know I'm not up on my Haydee lore, but this is also confusing. What, did she wish real hard to The Good Fairy, or...?

They just decided not to make her a robot, I guess? I have no idea

MonkeyforaHead
Apr 7, 2006


God, you vindictive bitch, why can't I ever have any "me" time


:nws: Yep.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

Cardiovorax posted:

I think it says some disturbing things if someone finds that putting a face on the softcore porn character means they're not objectified enough for their taste anymore.

A component of some forms of objectifying misogyny is that the individual is alienated from and terrified of women, and of their attraction to them.

Diabetes Forecast
Aug 13, 2008

Droopy Only

Cardiovorax posted:

I think it says some disturbing things if someone finds that putting a face on the softcore porn character means they're not objectified enough for their taste anymore.

For me faceless or non-human faces can be interesting as an experiment in finding ways to make things identifiable being as abstracted or shifted as possible. Haydee works because the head shape denotes a certain cool and sleek tone, with a few small landmarks and anchor points that tell you exactly what she is. I wanna say it grounds the game in it's weird oppressive tone but then this cool head is attached to the most basic bitch 'thicc' body as possible.

And now they're removing the only identifiable aspect so it just kills that tone completely. It's like seeing a bad thing with a cool design element that could be iterated on, but apparently that element was a fluke and the designer is actually an idiot.

Magmarashi
May 20, 2009





Diabetes Forecast posted:

For me faceless or non-human faces can be interesting as an experiment in finding ways to make things identifiable being as abstracted or shifted as possible. Haydee works because the head shape denotes a certain cool and sleek tone, with a few small landmarks and anchor points that tell you exactly what she is. I wanna say it grounds the game in it's weird oppressive tone but then this cool head is attached to the most basic bitch 'thicc' body as possible.

And now they're removing the only identifiable aspect so it just kills that tone completely. It's like seeing a bad thing with a cool design element that could be iterated on, but apparently that element was a fluke and the designer is actually an idiot.

Yeah that's cool and all but they're literally mad at the change for objectifying wanking reasons

Cardiovorax
Jun 5, 2011

I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.

Discendo Vox posted:

A component of some forms of objectifying misogyny is that the individual is alienated from and terrified of women, and of their attraction to them.
Like I said, disturbing things.

Diabetes Forecast
Aug 13, 2008

Droopy Only

Magmarashi posted:

Yeah that's cool and all but they're literally mad at the change for objectifying wanking reasons

I know alot of artists that actually hated the body and tried drawing more robotic versions of her to fit with the head and make it more serious. I kinda considered doing one too but at the time i was busy with other things.
There's honestly alot of reasons to dislike the change to just plain human, though I haven't seen anyone complaining for the reason you're talking about specifically. (Yet. I'm sure eventually some of the spooky people obsessed with subservience will crawl out of the woodwork.)

Nckdictator
Sep 8, 2006
Just..someone
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/49008

This is either going to be really good, or really terrible.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Nckdictator posted:

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/49008

This is either going to be really good, or really terrible.

quote:

Historical Swastikas are disabled by default but can be enabled with a button you don't have to press. This is a fair compromise between historical accuracy and political correctness

Also it seems to mostly be about driving a bunch of different cars despite being called "Age of Airships 2"

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Skwirl posted:

Also it seems to mostly be about driving a bunch of different cars despite being called "Age of Airships 2"

the gently caress is a historical swastika

Cardiovorax
Jun 5, 2011

I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.
The mod seems to have a ton of WW2 Wehrmacht vehicles and such, because modders just love Nazi memorabilia, so I'm guessing they mean the ones that were painted on the cars and such.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.
Was there an "Age of Airships 1"?

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Cardiovorax
Jun 5, 2011

I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.

Skwirl posted:

Was there an "Age of Airships 1"?
Surprisingly, yes: https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/31242

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