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Nuns with Guns
Jul 23, 2010

It's fine.
Don't worry about it.

Sarcopenia posted:

Tbf he should have left when he made that stupid rear end "Urgh, can't call a woman alleging sexual harassment by one of my friends a liar because she's black and disabled" post.

All I remember him saying was that we didn't have the full story and he couldn't share it for ~some reason~. So what was the full story then?

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Bakeneko
Jan 9, 2007

It'd be great if someone could link to Dan's actual post, because I'm having a hard time believing it was as bad as some people are implying. He's basically the last person I'd ever imagine saying something like that.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Bakeneko posted:

It'd be great if someone could link to Dan's actual post, because I'm having a hard time believing it was as bad as some people are implying. He's basically the last person I'd ever imagine saying something like that.

The actual post Dan edited but the actual text remains because a lot of goons quoted it.

Bakeneko
Jan 9, 2007

Dawgstar posted:

The actual post Dan edited but the actual text remains because a lot of goons quoted it.

Thanks for digging that up, but it still sounds like something done in a moment of frustration that doesn't reflect his usual character. It also sounds like there was a lot going on behind the scenes involving people he knew personally, that he didn't feel it was appropriate to share with the whole internet. Of course, the smart thing to do would have been to just not say anything rather than hint at stuff he couldn't share, but frustration makes you do stupid things and it looks like he regretted it immedately after.

Archer666
Dec 27, 2008
Mandalore talks about the 40k game made by the people who made the best FPS ever, EYE Divine Cybermancy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jrr2xDIpCww

Its... not good. Though the scenery looks downright amazing.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
I'm still waiting for his Vermintide 2 video.

Microcline
Jul 27, 2012

Doctor Spaceman posted:

I thought Shaun was also talking about Germany at that point.

Germany is the example he illustrates, but the point of the quote is to help explain why US bombing of civilian targets in Japan was strategically ineffective/unnecessary despite the massive death toll. And by making it about "totalitarianism", he then undermines his point by bringing up the Blitz as another example of a failed morale bombing campaign.

My point is that
1. Shutting down fifth column groups while your cities are being bombed isn't some uniquely "totalitarian" thing, or even something supposedly "totalitarian" governments are better at
2. As Shaun mentioned, a bigger issue is that the evidence seemed to suggest that while morale bombing may have made civilians unhappy, for the majority of them it didn't make them less willing to fight

Basically it might be a snappy quote, but it
1. Wades into the thorny question of "what is totalitarianism anyway?"
2. States that whatever it is, it gives some kind of Civilization-style resistance to morale bombing
3. Implies that there exist some "non-totalitarian" states that could be defeated through morale bombing
4. Leans on the myth that the actions of the German and Japanese governments were the actions of a few bad actors and not supported by their citizens

It's a shame, because the video is almost entirely perfect apart from that one quote.

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

The Blitz failed because the British government also didn't give a toss about the safety of their citizens hth

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

Dabir posted:

The Blitz failed because the British government also didn't give a toss about the safety of their citizens hth

demonstrably false, in addition to the protective measures the British undertook to protect civilians, the blitz mainly failed because the Germans were taking unsustainable losses to both aircraft and pilots. The terror bombing campaign was also less effective then what the Luftwaffe had been doing previously (Attacking the RAF directly) and the Luftwaffe also failed to adequately target Britian's war industry—so even as civilian losses mounted, the Luftwaffe was growing weaker while the RAF was growing stronger until the campaign was called off entirely to prepare for Barbarossa.

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

Acebuckeye13 posted:

demonstrably false, in addition to the protective measures the British undertook to protect civilians

eventually, under sufferance, with considerable confusion on Churchill's part about all these civilians blocking up the underground with their inconvenient not wanting to die

DeafNote
Jun 4, 2014

Only Happy When It Rains
I am pretty sure Shauns point was 'morale bombing always sucks' anyway.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute

Bahi JD is probably my favorite currently famous sakuga guy, partly because his story is so wild (he's from Austria and managed to be so good and passionate that he was able to force his way into an incredibly competitive and insular industry) and partly because his animation has such a fantastic sense of natural flow to it.

The thread was talking about the bad FLCL sequels a bit back, but they did have some good animation buried in there courtesy of some really good animators including Bahi:

Casey Finnigan
Apr 30, 2009

Dumb ✔
So goddamn crazy ✔

Captain Invictus posted:


I'm not really sure why he chose that thumbnail for the video though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSkrywom0J8&hd=1

I hate this character cause she's just like the female version of the sexual harassment grape from my hero academia. Sexual harassment banana

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
I mean it's fine if you don't like sex jokes and all but Darkness' bit is her skeeving out literal monsters with her BDSM fantasies and still being less of a creep than Kazuma most of the time. It's a pretty big difference compared to Mineta's thing of 'aggressively sexually harasses other students and kinda just never does anything useful to justify them hanging around him'

ZenMasterBullshit
Nov 2, 2011

Restaurant de Nouvelles "À Table" Proudly Presents:
A Climactic Encounter Ending on 1 Negate and a Dream

A Sometimes Food posted:

Pat Stares At is my default streamer, then I dunno random goon ones. Also WoolieVS. And Vinny Vinesauce?

Vinny and Jerma are the best streamers. The pinnacle of the format

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




Parakeet vs. Phone posted:

^I don't like his adaptation as a whole, but they nailed the casting for Rorschach.

A lot of people got tired of watching a new person and then hearing them go on a really lovely rant. The era of Trump made this way worse. It's especially true since the thread tends to deal with people doing analysis of stuff, if not outright political talk, so politics are going to eventually come up. It's not that weird for people to ask if anyone already knows the person :shrug:.

The whole art and artist separation doesn't come up much because we don't tend to focus too much on apolitical funny channels. Although sometimes the thread does. I'm still looking for a good chill streamer to fill dead air with after Cryaotic's whole disgrace.

If you're not done with AH in all forms, Ray/Brownman's been pretty dece in my experience. It was cool as hell seeing him go from 'Oh god, when do I actually play the loving game' years ago with Yakuza 0 to then giving it another shot and going 'This game's amazing! How did I not like this last time?' and blitzing through the entire series in like 4 months short of the side games and Judgment.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

sexpig by night posted:

I mean it's fine if you don't like sex jokes and all but Darkness' bit is her skeeving out literal monsters with her BDSM fantasies and still being less of a creep than Kazuma most of the time. It's a pretty big difference compared to Mineta's thing of 'aggressively sexually harasses other students and kinda just never does anything useful to justify them hanging around him'

As far as I can recall Darkness has never tried to harass anybody like Mineta. I mean, she's a little too enthusiastic about her kink and all but no more than any other anime character with shtick and less than some others, and even manages to be a good tank sometimes unlike Mineta who is a horrible garbage child.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute
Darkness straight up tries to rape Kazuma and is only foiled by the wacky punchline that she doesn't actually know how sex works, which trips her up long enough that the rest of the party can rush in and stop her.

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

Jon Bois doing a Soccer Video? That's unexpected!

The Bee
Nov 25, 2012

Making his way to the ring . . .
from Deep in the Jungle . . .

The Big Monkey!

Sydin posted:

Darkness straight up tries to rape Kazuma and is only foiled by the wacky punchline that she doesn't actually know how sex works, which trips her up long enough that the rest of the party can rush in and stop her.

Wait, the gently caress?

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Microcline posted:

Germany is the example he illustrates, but the point of the quote is to help explain why US bombing of civilian targets in Japan was strategically ineffective/unnecessary despite the massive death toll. And by making it about "totalitarianism", he then undermines his point by bringing up the Blitz as another example of a failed morale bombing campaign.


i mean its more moral bombing doesnt work period. it didnt work when germany and japan bombed cities and it didnt work when we bombed them. it causes a rally around the flag type deal more than anything. to make a shakey comparison. 9/11 attacks just made americans rally around the flag and demand blood for the most part for the most part. varying degrees sure and obviously some didnt or changed politics etc. but terror bombing doesnt work ,really. with japan surrendering, i always viewed it as a mix of factors and events.


Dawgstar posted:

The actual post Dan edited but the actual text remains because a lot of goons quoted it.

Edited: some fake poo poo i heard from dumbfucks.


Archer666 posted:

You should check out Dan Carlin's Hardcore History podcast, especially the Supernova In The East series, if you like Shaun's vid. Goes over the entire Pacific theatre from the events that lead to Japan getting involved in WW2 all the way to the end of it. He explains things very clearly, cites numerous primary sources from both American and Japanese origins and gives you a very indepth look of just what Japanese leadership have been thinking during those years.

https://www.dancarlin.com/hardcore-history-series/

also not related to the end of the war. but this is a good book on the thought process that japans leadership made when deciding go to war with the US.https://www.amazon.com/Japan-1941-Countdown-Eri-Hotta/dp/0307739740/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=japan+1941&qid=1608249195&sr=8-1

also

2 new vids.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSOX_lkejkg&t=146s

quiton did one on uknown rankin bass stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSOX_lkejkg&t

and mandalore talks about that space marine game, the meh one, deathwing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jrr2xDIpCww

Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 04:23 on Dec 18, 2020

Kim Justice
Jan 29, 2007

Dapper_Swindler posted:


didnt he look the other way when jew wario was doing gross poo poo because "the wrong people might use it" or some poo poo.


No. Don't loving do poo poo like this.

Jamie Faith
Jan 13, 2020

Dapper_Swindler posted:

didnt he look the other way when jew wario was doing gross poo poo because "the wrong people might use it" or some poo poo.

Uh no. That was a lie GG incel types kept repeating with no proof.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Kim Justice posted:

No. Don't loving do poo poo like this.

sorry. didnt know. i just remeber hearing it on and off again.


Jamie Faith posted:

Uh no. That was a lie GG incel types kept repeating with no proof.

ok, sounds about right.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Dapper_Swindler posted:

i mean its more moral bombing doesnt work period. it didnt work when germany and japan bombed cities and it didnt work when we bombed them. it causes a rally around the flag type deal more than anything. to make a shakey comparison. 9/11 attacks just made americans rally around the flag and demand blood for the most part for the most part. varying degrees sure and obviously some didnt or changed politics etc. but terror bombing doesnt work ,really. with japan surrendering, i always viewed it as a mix of factors and events.


Edited: some fake poo poo i heard from dumbfucks.


also not related to the end of the war. but this is a good book on the thought process that japans leadership made when deciding go to war with the US.https://www.amazon.com/Japan-1941-Countdown-Eri-Hotta/dp/0307739740/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=japan+1941&qid=1608249195&sr=8-1

also

2 new vids.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSOX_lkejkg&t=146s

quiton did one on uknown rankin bass stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSOX_lkejkg&t

and mandalore talks about that space marine game, the meh one, deathwing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jrr2xDIpCww

That Rankin-Bass video is amazing. They’re absolutely right about Community and the other shows doing it wrong by giving too much movement to the face. That’s a claymation/California Raisins thing from later.

And that Smokey the Bear video—good god! I never thought I’d see stop-motion bears fondling each other and one accuse the other of being a cocktease. The 60s were not good.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

That Rankin-Bass video is amazing. They’re absolutely right about Community and the other shows doing it wrong by giving too much movement to the face. That’s a claymation/California Raisins thing from later.

And that Smokey the Bear video—good god! I never thought I’d see stop-motion bears fondling each other and one accuse the other of being a cocktease. The 60s were not good.

guess what.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFYirblMGVU&t

its on youtube.

Violen
Jul 25, 2009

ohoho~

Dapper_Swindler posted:

sorry. didnt know. i just remeber hearing it on and off again.


do your homework on poo poo like that before you post it is the point lol

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Dapper_Swindler posted:

9/11 attacks just made americans rally around the flag and demand blood for the most part for the most part.
Though unlike terror bombing that was the intended effect.

Schwarzwald
Jul 27, 2004

Don't Blink

This is great stuff. I was sort of aware that Rankin Bass did a lot of stuff few people had heard of, much of which was batshit, but not quite the extent.

I had watched some of The Life and Adventures of Santa Claus, but I completely missed that it had the voice cast of The Thunder Cats. Maybe I'll make another go at suffering through it at some point.

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

TOXIC
Watched Life and Adventures of Santa Claus last year as part of a xmas special stream and holy poo poo I was not prepared for just how off the wall it is. It's not good but it's the perfect kind of eccentrically weird to watch with friends, especially if they've not seen it before.

Sarcopenia
May 14, 2014

Bakeneko posted:

Thanks for digging that up, but it still sounds like something done in a moment of frustration that doesn't reflect his usual character. It also sounds like there was a lot going on behind the scenes involving people he knew personally, that he didn't feel it was appropriate to share with the whole internet. Of course, the smart thing to do would have been to just not say anything rather than hint at stuff he couldn't share, but frustration makes you do stupid things and it looks like he regretted it immedately after.
I personally think that the way he talked about it afterwards made what he initially said worse. The closest thing I see to him apologizing is some Boogie levels of "Oh no I'm so depressed feel bad for me"-poo poo. He didn't seem to regret what he actually said, he regretted that it sounded bad and would invite more attention/drama to it. It was some chuddy bullshit and if it had been said by a creator that wasn't liked by this thread the tone would have been so different. Like yes, we don't personally know any of these people... So why are you giving the benefit of doubt to this person? Why is it ok for creators you like to basically say "I think that my friends are good people, they didn't do bad thing!" without giving any explanation as to why we should believe them over another stranger that claims to be a victim?

What's So Great About That? came out with a video about Queens Gambit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HR4T9R8-ks

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!

SteelMentor posted:

Watched Life and Adventures of Santa Claus last year as part of a xmas special stream and holy poo poo I was not prepared for just how off the wall it is. It's not good but it's the perfect kind of eccentrically weird to watch with friends, especially if they've not seen it before.

Speaking of Santa, this video isn't new, it's two years old but it's still one of my favorite Christmas related youtube videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW-gVrZBfqM

Danny Gonzelez talks about The Santa Clause

Bakeneko
Jan 9, 2007

Sarcopenia posted:

I personally think that the way he talked about it afterwards made what he initially said worse. The closest thing I see to him apologizing is some Boogie levels of "Oh no I'm so depressed feel bad for me"-poo poo. He didn't seem to regret what he actually said, he regretted that it sounded bad and would invite more attention/drama to it. It was some chuddy bullshit and if it had been said by a creator that wasn't liked by this thread the tone would have been so different. Like yes, we don't personally know any of these people... So why are you giving the benefit of doubt to this person? Why is it ok for creators you like to basically say "I think that my friends are good people, they didn't do bad thing!" without giving any explanation as to why we should believe them over another stranger that claims to be a victim?

Well personally I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt because I've been watching Folding Ideas practically since it started and there's no hint of a chuddy attitude in there. The opposite, in fact. He's spoken out against gamergate and 8chan and taken a lot of online abuse because of it, including having them spread rumors that he was a pedophile because he exposed their sharing of child porn. So when someone with an otherwise excellent track record makes a couple of ill-advised posts, I'm inclined to believe it was just a lapse in judgement and not a sign that he was a secret rear end in a top hat this whole time.

DeafNote
Jun 4, 2014

Only Happy When It Rains
I imagine its very easy for someone to say dumb things when you feel like you have to defend your friends.

Bonaventure
Jun 23, 2005

by sebmojo
can the internet please, please stop using the word chud to refer to anything but C.H.U.D. and C.H.U.D. II : Bud the CHUD [sic]?
i'll even give you until Trump leaves office so you can wean yourselves off of it

Bonaventure
Jun 23, 2005

by sebmojo
let us not forget that the acronym in fact stands for Contamination Hazard Urban Disposal, and that the supposed cannibalistic humanoid underground dwellers are victims of an incompetently-run government project that turned the downtrodden and disenfranchised sewer hobo community into monsters that strike back at the privileged above-ground dwellers

really makes you think....

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

Bonaventure posted:

let us not forget that the acronym in fact stands for Contamination Hazard Urban Disposal, and that the supposed cannibalistic humanoid underground dwellers are victims of an incompetently-run government project that turned the downtrodden and disenfranchised sewer hobo community into monsters that strike back at the privileged above-ground dwellers

really makes you think....

:hai:

YeahTubaMike
Mar 24, 2005

*hic* Gotta finish thish . . .
Doctor Rope

Bonaventure posted:

can the internet please, please stop using the word chud to refer to anything but C.H.U.D. and C.H.U.D. II : Bud the CHUD [sic]?
i'll even give you until Trump leaves office so you can wean yourselves off of it

I don't think it can, actually.

Bug Squash
Mar 18, 2009

DeafNote posted:

I imagine its very easy for someone to say dumb things when you feel like you have to defend your friends.

It's also worth bearing in mind that he didn't say something on Twitter or YouTube. Just here, a thread that is read by, and lets be honest with ourselves, about 50 people with zero societal or social clout.

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BigRed0427
Mar 23, 2007

There's no one I'd rather be than me.

Bonaventure posted:

can the internet please, please stop using the word chud to refer to anything but C.H.U.D. and C.H.U.D. II : Bud the CHUD [sic]?
i'll even give you until Trump leaves office so you can wean yourselves off of it

Side note, wow this movie is underwhelming.

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