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Shame Boy: Mar 2, 2010

Eeyo posted:

i don't regularly read this thread, but i just wanted to say that i totally don't understand bitcoin as some type of leftist anarchist ideal. like i get it, it (appears to be) a financial system which runs on mutual cooperation rather than trust in a central authority. but bitcoin is inherently deflationary, which will inevitably create a new capitalist class of early adopters/coiners. in a hypothetical future where bitcoin is a significant store of value, then a disproportionate amount of power will be given to people whose only contribution was to get in early. the people who wield power are the people with bitcoin, not the workers.

not to mention that the reality of mining encourages large-scale operations by small groups who have access to capital.

i think the more generous interpretation is it's a tool to work around the blockades put up by the current system until the system can be dismantled, at which point... idk i guess everyone will just declare their bitcoins as valueless and work together as equals in a post-money society? i'm sure the like 99.9% of bitcoiners who think they're the future robber-baron class will just be cool with that

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Shame Boy: Mar 2, 2010

like i appreciate wanting crypto to be that thing, sure it'd be great if we could make a technology to work around the government clamping down hard on leftism, hell maybe even use it to ultimately render the current power structure and stratification obsolete. but boy howdy hitching your wagon to a horse made of goddamn bitcoiners does not seem like it will end anywhere near the destination you're trying to get to, even before getting into everything else that makes it a non-starter.

# ? Dec 17, 2020 22:17

Boxturret: Oct 3, 2013; Don't ask me about Sonic the Hedgehog diaper fetish

im certain that this currency used exclusively by people making charts and predictions about it's asymptotic growth will be the perfect platform to bring about the socialist anarchistic utopia of my dreams

# ? Dec 17, 2020 22:25

Gobbeldygook: May 13, 2009; Hates Native American people and tries to justify their genocides.

Put this racist on ignore immediately!

kw0134 posted:

right, i forgot that part of the proof of "criminal enterprise" was that fact he did call for hits. they weren't charged specifically (because CARL MARK FORCE IV may have tainted it) but the mere fact this was a thing which occurred was a major part of going from "selling drugs on the side, as all radical libertarians do" to "wannabe walter white but much less competent"

entered as evidence he had a major criminal enterprise which he went through great lengths to preserve doesn't look good!

the appeal denial (PDF) is great and shoots down the common butter arguments.

quote:

A search of Ulbricht�s home yielded additional evidence linking him with the site. That evidence included two USB hard drives with versions of documents related to Silk Road that were also stored on Ulbricht�s laptop. There were also handwritten notes crumpled in Ulbricht�s bedroom trash can about ideas for improving Silk Road�s vendor rating system�an initiative that Dread Pirate Roberts had just revealed through a post in a discussion forum on the site.
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One point in the testimony of Richard Bates exemplifies the defense�s approach and the government�s response. Bates, Ulbricht�s friend who assisted with computer programming issues when Ulbricht launched Silk Road, testified for the government. According to Bates, Ulbricht told him in November 2011 that he had sold Silk Road to someone else, a claim that Bates believed at the time to be true. Moreover, in a February 2013 Google chat between Bates and Ulbricht, Ulbricht wrote that he was �[g]lad� that Silk Road was �not [his] problem anymore.� Tr. 1140-41.16 Bates understood that to mean that Ulbricht no longer worked on the site.

To mitigate any damage from Bates�s testimony, the government introduced a December 9, 2011 Tor chat between Ulbricht and vj. In that chat, vj asked Ulbricht whether anyone else knew about his involvement in Silk Road. Ulbricht responded: �[U]nfortunately yes. There are two, but they think I sold the site and got out and they are quite convinced of it.� Tr. 1191. He further wrotethat those two people thought he sold the site �about a month ago,� id., which roughly corresponds to the November 2011 conversation between Bates and Ulbricht. Significantly, it was shortly after this conversation that vj suggested that Ulbricht change his online identity to DPR. In view of the fictional character it referenced, the government contended that the online moniker DPR was deliberately adopted to support the cover story that the lead administrator of Silk Road changed over time.

# ? Dec 17, 2020 22:41

SYSV Fanfic: Sep 9, 2003; by Pragmatica

I sure hope someone writes a memoir or at least does an extended interview about the free for all pardon seeking going on right now.

If nothing else, Ross being in prison protects women from his terrible dates. I wish I had clipped the blog post describing that blind date.

# ? Dec 18, 2020 00:38

Boxturret: Oct 3, 2013; Don't ask me about Sonic the Hedgehog diaper fetish

its also kind of funny to think this thread just blindly supports jailing people what with the constant MARK DID NOTHING WRONG posting and the celebrations when he got out

# ? Dec 18, 2020 00:45

AlbieQuirky: Oct 9, 2012; Just me and my 🌊dragon🐉 hanging out

SYSV Fanfic posted:

I sure hope someone writes a memoir or at least does an extended interview about the free for all pardon seeking going on right now.

If nothing else, Ross being in prison protects women from his terrible dates. I wish I had clipped the blog post describing that blind date.

i saw something today about how whatever office was responsible for pardons had to add extra staff

at least one of those people isn�t a true believer, i hope

Boxturret posted:

its also kind of funny to think this thread just blindly supports jailing people what with the constant MARK DID NOTHING WRONG posting and the celebrations when he got out

is the person who said they were a prison abolitionist in this thread the same person who said i obviously wasn�t a prison abolitionist because i posted in this thread?

let me make my position very clear: i want prisons abolished, but i want the last person out to be ross

AlbieQuirky fucked around with this message at 03:21 on Dec 18, 2020

# ? Dec 18, 2020 03:18

Boxturret: Oct 3, 2013; Don't ask me about Sonic the Hedgehog diaper fetish

im sorry unless you are literally a card carrying anarchist doing whatever it is they do with all their blackmarket patreon money you're basically hitler

# ? Dec 18, 2020 03:46

CampingCarl: Apr 28, 2008

life without parole is a sentence that should not exist. this does not mean i want frosty ross to be free. it means i want a parole board to slam the door in his face repeatedly because he still has not shown any remorse for anything aside from being caught.

Shame Boy posted:

i think the more generous interpretation is it's a tool to work around the blockades put up by the current system until the system can be dismantled, at which point... idk i guess everyone will just declare their bitcoins as valueless and work together as equals in a post-money society? i'm sure the like 99.9% of bitcoiners who think they're the future robber-baron class will just be cool with that

i think these supposed left-bitcoiners must think that company scrip is the same thing as a commune or something. i cant imagine how they think they arent going down the road of ultra robber barons. not like seraph et al ever explain their logic either so maybe there isnt even bad logic.

# ? Dec 18, 2020 07:35

Boxturret: Oct 3, 2013; Don't ask me about Sonic the Hedgehog diaper fetish

i think most bitcoiners are pretty clear in their desire to be the cool guy that looks down at the suffering masses and say "no" to their cries of help

# ? Dec 18, 2020 08:06

Shumagorath: Jun 6, 2001

what if prison but only for violent offenders, white collar crime and coiners

website administration optional

# ? Dec 18, 2020 12:47

Qwertycoatl: Dec 31, 2008

Boxturret posted:

i think most bitcoiners are pretty clear in their desire to be the cool guy that looks down at the suffering masses and say "no" to their cries of help

yeah, it's very noticeable that their imagined world after bitcoin takes over is about nocoiners begging them for scraps rather than people continuing to do actual jobs but in exchange for bitcoin instead of dollars

# ? Dec 18, 2020 13:21

Soylent Pudding: Jun 22, 2007; We've got people!

So much of techno-utopian fetishism is just the rapture but reskinned for euphoric fedora wearers.

# ? Dec 18, 2020 14:59

Hammerite: Mar 9, 2007; And you don't remember what I said here, either, but it was pompous and stupid.; Jade Ear Joe

AlbieQuirky posted:

at least one of those people isn�t a true believer, i hope

what difference would that make? they still have to do what trump says. it doesn't matter what opinion they have about it

# ? Dec 18, 2020 14:59

Chris Knight: Jun 5, 2002; me @ ur posts; Fun Shoe

Soylent Pudding posted:

So much of techno-utopian fetishism is just the rapture but reskinned for euphoric fedora wearers.

fedoration of planets

# ? Dec 18, 2020 15:53

KnifeWrench: May 25, 2007; Practical and safe.; Bleak Gremlin

Chris Knight posted:

fedoration of planets

# ? Dec 18, 2020 16:28

vortmax: Sep 24, 2008; In meteorology, vorticity often refers to a measurement of the spin of horizontally flowing air about a vertical axis.

Chris Knight posted:

fedoration of planets

# ? Dec 18, 2020 17:36

Midjack: Dec 24, 2007

Chris Knight posted:

fedoration of planets

# ? Dec 18, 2020 20:11

qirex: Feb 15, 2001

Chris Knight posted:

fedoration of planets

ffffffffff

# ? Dec 18, 2020 20:16

xtal: Jan 9, 2011; by Fluffdaddy

jre posted:

I love that every time I think this thread has run it's course we get a new live one come in convinced that they will craft the perfect argument that finally lifts the scales from the sketics eyes

I don't believe I can change your mind, have you heard of the term lumpenproletariat?

# ? Dec 18, 2020 20:45

Suspicious: Apr 30, 2005; You know he's the villain, because he's got shifty eyes.

i'm interested in being explained how the entire world will run at 7 transactions per second

# ? Dec 18, 2020 20:50

Boxturret: Oct 3, 2013; Don't ask me about Sonic the Hedgehog diaper fetish

xtal posted:

I don't believe I can change your mind, have you heard of the term lumpenproletariat?

german for WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!!

# ? Dec 18, 2020 20:50

Shame Boy: Mar 2, 2010

just to be clear here, in your worldview the people who would be the real proletariat are bitcoiners

# ? Dec 18, 2020 20:52

Shame Boy: Mar 2, 2010

also i thought y'all anarchists liked the lumpenproletariat and considered them more "authentic" or whatever

# ? Dec 18, 2020 20:54

CampingCarl: Apr 28, 2008

xtal posted:

I don't believe I can change your mind, have you heard of the term lumpenproletariat?

well you are certainly doing a good job of not trying to by posting any support for your claims.

# ? Dec 18, 2020 21:02

Shumagorath: Jun 6, 2001

Boxturret posted:

german for WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!!

<Downfall bunker scene subtitled as Hitler dismissing all the nocoiners and telling his inner circle to hodl, not a single joke>

E: of course there is
https://youtube.com/watch?v=RzLZ8IaqIQY

Shumagorath fucked around with this message at 21:40 on Dec 18, 2020

# ? Dec 18, 2020 21:34

raminasi: Jan 25, 2005; a last drink with no ice

Ad by Khad posted:

if ross gets pardoned and actually gets out of supermax free and clear, the 144336 bits coin the govt took from him (and auctioned off for cheap) is still gone and he will Henry Hill himself back into deep criminal charges in no more than 2 years

selling propane and propane accessories isn�t illegal. it�s a good, honest living.

Boxturret posted:

its also kind of funny to think this thread just blindly supports jailing people what with the constant MARK DID NOTHING WRONG posting and the celebrations when he got out

or all the other darknet drug market runners who don�t show up in this thread except for that one who gets loled at for using his real name to do it

# ? Dec 18, 2020 21:53

Vincent Van Goatse: Nov 8, 2006; Enjoy every sandwich.; Smellrose

xtal posted:

I don't believe I can change your mind, have you heard of the term lumpenproletariat?

That's you, comrade buttcoin.

# ? Dec 18, 2020 22:05

Boxturret: Oct 3, 2013; Don't ask me about Sonic the Hedgehog diaper fetish

raminasi posted:

or all the other darknet drug market runners who don�t show up in this thread except for that one who gets loled at for using his real name to do it

blake benthall is great and i wish him the best!

see he did a similar thing to fross, even calling himself DPR2, yet he didn't try to have like half a dozen people murdered and would you look at that! he isn't foreverially incarcerated and loving it

weird

# ? Dec 18, 2020 22:05