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E/N Warning: I’m in a bit of a cold period right now after I told my partner that I didn’t want to see their family over the break. They are travelling in from the hotspot of our province (~6 cases a day) and everyone seems to be willing to risk it in order to be together for the holidays. I feel like a huge rear end in a top hat, but this feels like the smart thing to do(?)...
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Professor Shark posted:E/N Warning: I’m in a bit of a cold period right now after I told my partner that I didn’t want to see their family over the break. They are travelling in from the hotspot of our province (~6 cases a day) and everyone seems to be willing to risk it in order to be together for the holidays. I feel like a huge rear end in a top hat, but this feels like the smart thing to do(?)... they're either mentally incapable of being rational or are being huge assholes who don't care that their actions will murder people they don't even know you're perfectly fine, sorry to hear about your christmas and i hope you make it through ok Mithaldu fucked around with this message at 16:39 on Dec 19, 2020 |
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Dec 19, 2020 16:28
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Professor Shark posted:E/N Warning: I’m in a bit of a cold period right now after I told my partner that I didn’t want to see their family over the break. They are travelling in from the hotspot of our province (~6 cases a day) and everyone seems to be willing to risk it in order to be together for the holidays. I feel like a huge rear end in a top hat, but this feels like the smart thing to do(?)... Have both groups been strictly isolating for at least a week, preferably longer? Did they drive immediately to your area without stopping anywhere? Have you all had 2 covid tests just before they arrived? If the answer to any of those is 'no' then that's a hard pass, for their sake as well as yours. There's a ton of stories of families who decided to meet up "just for a little while" for "a bit of normalcy" because "everyone has been careful and we'll socially distance outside anyway" and the entire family came down with covid.
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Dec 19, 2020 16:36
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This is definitively the year where everyone in my family being lukewarm and distant with one another pays dividends. There's just zero impetus to have a get-together as such has only ever been a reluctant going through the motions to keep up with societal expectations. I'm sure this had nothing to do with my difficulty forming deep connections with people. As for "algorithms", the term is often dubiously thrown around as just a modern equivalent of a dousing rod. Executive A wants to see Policy B without personally taking responsibility? Tell everyone the magical secret algorithm chose it! An authoritarian government's secret police want to justify the arrest a known dissident? Tell everyone the magical secret algorithm identified them commiting a crime even though they were only a 5-pixel blob on the recording!
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Update! Now posting from a tier 4 hotspot. Looks like our mutant strain of supercovid has spooked the UK gov enough they've just cancelled Christmas for a good portion of the country https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19...llions-12167367 Edit: up to "70% more transmissible" mr_jolly fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Dec 19, 2020 |
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Dec 19, 2020 17:52
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Yeah and this is already everywhere in the UK so enjoy it, rest of world! e: not more dangerous, but more transmissible, so will overwhelm hospitals more easily etc.
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Xaintrailles posted:Yeah and this is already everywhere in the UK so enjoy it, rest of world! Engage TURBO MODE
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Dec 19, 2020 18:11
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Is that the mink strain or some other mutation?
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ymgve posted:Is that the mink strain or some other mutation? Not the mink one as far as I can tell.
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Dec 19, 2020 18:23
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Here's a twitter thread about it: https://twitter.com/BillHanage/status/1340332564721053696 https://twitter.com/BillHanage/status/1340334680143519744 https://twitter.com/BillHanage/status/1340336235890552834 https://twitter.com/BillHanage/status/1340341578670497793
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Dec 19, 2020 18:33
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My wife told me this morning that her friend who is a VA hospital worker was offered the vaccine and refused, claiming that it's 'not effective enough' and that she will 'probably wait a couple of years to get it' What is wrong with this loving country
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Thanks for the feedback, goons. Feeling pretty down today, like I'm responsible for the virus for some reason.
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There's been 17 cases of the new variant detected in Scotland apparently so yeah, it sounds like this thing is already spreading. Also cases in Wales. The country, not the things in the ocean. mr_jolly fucked around with this message at 19:37 on Dec 19, 2020 |
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Dec 19, 2020 19:25
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Well, a bunch of elderly people in Quebec long term care homes that were infected in spring/summer and survived have been confirmed as being re-infected yesterday, so the good news is Trump might still die to COVID.
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mr_jolly posted:There's been 17 cases of the new variant detected in Scotland apparently so yeah, it sounds like this thing is already spreading. Eugh. A bump of 0.5 or more to R0 is kinda freaky. Bear in mind that the proportion of susceptible individuals needs to be reduced to below 1/R0 in order for a disease to eradicated. As R0 goes up, so does your percentage of population that must be vaccinated. Edit: Fuuck combine that with a short immunity windows and suddenly this is going to be very challenging to get rid of.. Blitter fucked around with this message at 19:43 on Dec 19, 2020 |
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Dec 19, 2020 19:40
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Blitter posted:Eugh. I think it's pretty clear now this isn't something we'll be getting rid of, covid shots every year or so will just be the new normal like flu shots are. Maybe in time it'll mutate into something more spready but less kill-y and we can treat it like a cold.
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Sweden just started new measures 1. No sale of alcohol after 8pm (in restaurants and bars) 2. Rule-of-four in restaurants (no more than four in a party) 3. Cap on number of people in shops, gyms and malls (which has yet to be determined officially, and the health department is trying to urge stores to not do the between Xmas and NYE days sales. Is there an official legal consequence attached to this? Hell if I know, hell if any of us know.) 4. Online teaching to continue for over-16s 5. Non-essential public services told to close (so like public pools, museums, libraries - non essential public services. Applies until Jan 24) 6. Face masks on public transport (which I’ll copy what thelocal.se is saying as it outlines it succinctly “The Public Health Agency will issue recommendations for face masks at certain times on public transport. These guidelines will state what times and what kind of masks are recommended, and will be issued before many return to work on January 7th after the Christmas holidays. Public transport operators will be told to inform travellers of the guidelines and be able to provide free face masks to passengers who don't have them.” These are recommendations but in the Swedish legal sense which means not quite a law or ordinance but you should do it. Punitive measures have not been mentioned and who knows, based on how other recommendations have gone uh,  )7. Everyone who can should work from home (applies to public and private sector. As mentioned in my prior posts, this uh, means nothing. At all. I brought my work laptop home with me, but I wouldn’t be shocked if I was still going back in after my holiday break.) This is an interview in English with Lena Hallgren, the Sweden’s Health Minister and I’m hoping she responded in English and maybe just used weird words or it was translated poorly because uh. https://www.thelocal.se/20201218/lena-hallengren-its-not-a-fact-that-if-you-just-close-whatever-you-can-you-get-rid-of-the-virus quote:When my colleague at The Local interviewed you in May, you said that you wouldn't have wanted to have imposed a lockdown, even if you could have done. I wondered if that's still the case? Like what is a lockdown?
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gay picnic defence posted:I think it's pretty clear now this isn't something we'll be getting rid of, covid shots every year or so will just be the new normal like flu shots are. Maybe in time it'll mutate into something more spready but less kill-y and we can treat it like a cold.
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Dec 19, 2020 20:20
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FlamingLiberal posted:My wife told me this morning that her friend who is a VA hospital worker was offered the vaccine and refused, claiming that it's 'not effective enough' and that she will 'probably wait a couple of years to get it' Dunning Kruger / Expert syndrome. It oddly enough happens a lot with people with just enough knowledge to be dangerous eg anti-vax nurses which seems to be a thing. Chocobo posted:Well, a bunch of elderly people in Quebec long term care homes that were infected in spring/summer and survived have been confirmed as being re-infected yesterday, so the good news is Trump might still die to COVID. link? this is huge if true.
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Professor Shark posted:E/N Warning: I’m in a bit of a cold period right now after I told my partner that I didn’t want to see their family over the break. My advice is to come up with a nice way of saying this. I said that I don't want anyone to have to experience a visit to a hospital full of covid with no available beds. That includes all the reasons one might need to go to a hospital because of travel.
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Professor Shark posted:E/N Warning: I’m in a bit of a cold period right now after I told my partner that I didn’t want to see their family over the break. They are travelling in from the hotspot of our province (~6 cases a day) and everyone seems to be willing to risk it in order to be together for the holidays. I feel like a huge rear end in a top hat, but this feels like the smart thing to do(?)... My extended family is doing the same thing and if I skip it I miss my dying mother's last Christmas
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mr_jolly posted:Also cases in Wales. The country, not the things in the ocean. When I was a kid I definitely thought British royalty had claimed dominion over whales, lol. I guess that one that swam up the Thames was subject to British rule, momentarily.
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Animal-Mother posted:When I was a kid I definitely thought British royalty had claimed dominion over whales, lol. Wales isn't a real country, it's just west england
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Dec 19, 2020 21:39
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FlamingLiberal posted:Which is pretty much what happened with Spanish Flu
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unpacked robinhood posted:Any countries that are going to require vaccination to get in, and how are they going to enforce it ? CDC card / mark of the beast, according to people on my facebook
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:The really rich smart ones have already taken the vaccine phew, was worried he'd miss out!!!!
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mr_jolly posted:There's been 17 cases of the new variant detected in Scotland apparently so yeah, it sounds like this thing is already spreading. Has anyone checked on the whales? I bet those big boys could send up some impressive virus laden plumes.
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unpacked robinhood posted:Any countries that are going to require vaccination to get in, and how are they going to enforce it ? They'll scan the tracking chip that was implanted when the person was ' vaccinated' and use that to determine if you're now at the whim and command of the lizard people.
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Dec 19, 2020 22:12
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It just occurred to me that the school snow day probably died of covid this year. from now on unless everyone's power is out they'll just do class remotely. Poor kids.
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poverty goat posted:It just occurred to me that the school snow day probably died of covid this year. from now on unless everyone's power is out they'll just do class remotely. Poor kids. Yeah, that's what Seattle Public Schools is doing: https://www.seattleschools.org/district/calendars/news/what_s_new/weather_response I grew up in Florida so to me it just makes sense since I have no concept of a snow day. I had one hurricane day in high school and we had to hunker down because a hurricane was headed our way.
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poverty goat posted:Wales isn't a real country, it's just west england Scotland is north England, north England is the midlands, the west country accent is now just Brummie, London is the Far East.
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Have any of you (in the USA) started figuring out when and where to get a vaccine next year? My wife is probably medium risk, but we are not sure how that translates into a place in line. I don't wanna make a doc appt and pay the copay just to ask a dumb question. I guess after the medical workers and nursing homes are done, there'll be some kind of national rollout plan? Maybe we have to wait for Biden for this to be announced?
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smoobles posted:I guess after the medical workers and nursing homes are done, there'll be some kind of national rollout plan? Maybe we have to wait for Biden for this to be announced? lol
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smoobles posted:Have any of you (in the USA) started figuring out when and where to get a vaccine next year? My wife is probably medium risk, but we are not sure how that translates into a place in line. I don't wanna make a doc appt and pay the copay just to ask a dumb question. it’s going to be a complete and utter useless fart-fest in which millions needlessly die wesleywillis posted:They'll scan the tracking chip that was implanted when the person was ' vaccinated' and use that to determine if you're now at the whim and command of the lizard people. that’s silly the lizard people rule us already
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It'll pretty much be a free for all. The rich are already getting vaccinated now. If you have decent healthcare you'll probably just have to schedule it with your provider. If you don't have decent healthcare you'll be waiting in very long lines at a public vaccination site.
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My prediction is that after Jan 20 the GOP senate won't allow a vote on any enabling legislation, and when Biden tries to do a rollout via executive order some chud will get it overturned in court.
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