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sellouts posted:Same flight, sometimes next to each other. Sometimes not. No one really cares as long as everyone is close enough that we’re not waiting on one person to clear customs. I put in molded IEMs and no one is going to be able to bother me anyways, and if they did I’d have no problem being politely direct and telling them. yeah this is pretty well how we roll, sometimes dinner is mandatory if its more of a working session
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# ? Nov 30, 2020 20:52 |
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# ? May 27, 2024 23:57 |
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Gabriel S. posted:I really wonder how this is going work out for anti-vaxxxers when they found out that nearly every Country from the UK to even Mexico won't let them visit until they get their shots! They will buy fake papers. Like they already do now. You can buy negative PCR test results easily.
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# ? Dec 1, 2020 06:12 |
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Blockchain sounds a good case for vaccination verification. I suspect places in the Caribbean will require testing along with popular spots in Mexico. https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/1333837048491421701?s=20 I really wonder how this will turn out, I think it'll drop by a quarter but I think that'll more so due to the recession than remote work. Commercial travel even with upgrades isn't that pleasant to begin with in the first place and with credit cards handing out free upgrades, everyone has an upgrade.
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# ? Dec 2, 2020 02:23 |
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Gabriel S. posted:Blockchain sounds a good case for vaccination verification. Why do we need a new slow and expensive database to query just for vaccinations? Who is going to run a global distributed vaccine database and integrate every healthcare provider on the planet to be able to register administered vaccines? Do we get every country to agree to a data standard, or should everyone run their own vaccinechain? What will probably happen is countries will demand vaccine information before allowing people to enter and tell the airlines to figure it out (Ex: US will start requiring it as part of APIS information pre-departure). At best, some countries may set standards around electronic health records and require providers to have a method for passengers to give airlines access in a way that is better than "upload a picture of your doctor's note". The technology part of this problem is very simple, integrating the world's healthcare, airline, and immigration organizations is the unworkably complex and expensive part for what benefit, keeping a few anti-vaxxers off airplanes?
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# ? Dec 2, 2020 02:58 |
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blockchain still a solution in desperate need of a problem
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# ? Dec 2, 2020 03:30 |
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Feel to correct me here but I'm under the impression blockchain could be used to implement chain-of-custody making it impossible or extremely difficult to show fake vaccinations, test results or better yet health records. I'm just being raw about and it's not about anti-vaxxers necessarily but preventing the spread of the virus whoever that might be. That is important but it does raise a good point given we have a vaccine - what's the point of going through this whole process although who the hell knows how long it's going to take to distribute billions of doses.
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# ? Dec 2, 2020 04:00 |
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You're presuming that falsifying vaccination records is a big problem that needs a complex, expensive technical solution. It isn't and it doesn't.
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# ? Dec 2, 2020 04:09 |
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Still lolling at a blockchain “solution” to anything, does Gabe S work for IBM or something.
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# ? Dec 2, 2020 04:11 |
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Gabriel S. posted:Feel to correct me here but I'm under the impression blockchain could be used to implement chain-of-custody making it impossible or extremely difficult to show fake vaccinations, test results or better yet health records. You don't need chain of custody here. There's no need for some immutable ledger and record of what happened in the past, which is what blockchain gives you. All you need is the digital equivalent of a very hard-to-forge rubber stamp that's only given out to people who are trusted to administer the vaccine. What you actually need, from a technology standpoint, is the ability to delegate signing authority (WHO -> national health authorities -> subnational authorities like states/provinces -> doctors or other authorized vaccine dispensers) and for doctors to use that authority to sign off on records that say "this person was vaccinated with this vaccine on this date." All that can be validated completely offline, as long as you have your own copy of the public component of the root WHO certificate. All the necessary data could be printed into a large-ish QR code. That technology exists. In fact, you're using it to post right now; it's part of the TLS protocol that puts a little lock next to "forums.somethingawful.com" in your browser's address bar.
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# ? Dec 2, 2020 04:11 |
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Gabriel S. posted:Commercial travel even with upgrades isn't that pleasant to begin with in the first place and with credit cards handing out free upgrades, everyone has an upgrade. Has there been some significant shift here lately? I don't think many cards actually do this aside from the Amex Centurion and maybe the Hilton Aspire, but then again I've never found Hilton Diamond to get me any significant upgrades anyway.
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# ? Dec 2, 2020 04:14 |
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Midjack posted:Still lolling at a blockchain “solution” to anything, does Gabe S work for IBM or something. I have but only through a partner.
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# ? Dec 2, 2020 04:16 |
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Space Gopher posted:You don't need chain of custody here. There's no need for some immutable ledger and record of what happened in the past, which is what blockchain gives you. All you need is the digital equivalent of a very hard-to-forge rubber stamp that's only given out to people who are trusted to administer the vaccine. Mark of the Beast!!! Burn the witch! Nobody is going to switch to signed certificates for vaccination records, even if it's not technically hard (although it is, even if just from a scaling out and standardization standpoint). Have you ever actually met a doctor in real life? It's a struggle to even get them to enter a 4 digit pin every time they walk up to their computer.
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# ? Dec 2, 2020 04:17 |
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Space Gopher posted:
Ugh. Sounds like I've ate into into the hype and this has always been around. Thanks for the explanation.
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# ? Dec 2, 2020 04:19 |
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Small White Dragon posted:Has there been some significant shift here lately? I don't think many cards actually do this aside from the Amex Centurion and maybe the Hilton Aspire, but then again I've never found Hilton Diamond to get me any significant upgrades anyway. AMEX has had a Delta branded card for years now easily giving anyone who takes a dozen or so trips a year an easy silver status and whatever else. Even before COVID I thought they were pretty decent but it quickly became popular.
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# ? Dec 2, 2020 04:23 |
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That only works if you make sure the data entered is good. If the dude at Walgreens stabbing you with a needle fucks up his data entry or someone slips him a $20 to lie, welp. Blockchain would allow us to verify something was entered and hasn’t been changed, which isn’t a feature anyone gives a poo poo about. edit: drat I eat a sandwich and the thread moved faster than ever before. Are we all tech industry business travelers triggered by dumb buzzwords?
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# ? Dec 2, 2020 04:24 |
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KillHour posted:Mark of the Beast!!! Burn the witch! Sorry, I’m too busy changing my twenty passwords that all have different complexity requirements and dates that they expire, courtesy of my special snowflake IT department that works on its own timetable. lol, a password manager?
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# ? Dec 2, 2020 04:26 |
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Residency Evil posted:Sorry, I’m too busy changing my twenty passwords that all have different complexity requirements and dates that they expire, courtesy of my special snowflake IT department that works on its own timetable. FIDO Keys are a gift from God.
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# ? Dec 2, 2020 04:28 |
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Gabriel S. posted:Blockchain sounds a good case for vaccination verification. lol funny joke
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# ? Dec 2, 2020 04:31 |
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Arzakon posted:Are we all tech industry business travelers triggered by dumb buzzwords? This could be FlyerTalk and we could have massive thread about how airlines freaking horrible monsters by switching to plastic cutlery
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# ? Dec 2, 2020 04:33 |
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KillHour posted:Mark of the Beast!!! Burn the witch! Every vaccine record or paperwork is going to be treated like the mark of the beast. That's one of the reasons the world should be thinking about how to create a verifiable record of vaccination - otherwise, anti-vaxxers, religious crazies, and lunatic right-wingers in general will just buy forged paperwork from some guy on Facebook who bought a counterfeit stamp and a box of yellow cards on aliexpress. Any electronic record is going to have a lot of problems with doctors who aren't familiar with technology, standards, and scaling. Believe me, I've met plenty of doctors who think they know more than they do about technology. But the comparison here isn't paper records - it's the blockchain proposal, which would be even more difficult to implement, harder to scale, and at least as hard to use at the point of vaccination. Blockchain is a bad idea and there are simpler ways to get any benefit that's claimed to come with a blockchain-based vaccine record. (in practice, if IATA ships anything, they'll probably use ordinary digital signatures and cert chains, and claim that it's blockchain because crypto magic. It's not like the people promoting ~blockchain solutions~ would be able to tell the difference)
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# ? Dec 2, 2020 05:05 |
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Gabriel S. posted:AMEX has had a Delta branded card for years now easily giving anyone who takes a dozen or so trips a year an easy silver status and whatever else. Even before COVID I thought they were pretty decent but it quickly became popular. FO is not a status tier that gets upgrades unless you're on some random Wednesday morning low density RJ flight
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# ? Dec 2, 2020 12:03 |
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Gabriel S. posted:FIDO Keys are a gift from God. We use 2fa. Now we only have the other 2/3rds of passwords to deal with!
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# ? Dec 2, 2020 12:48 |
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:FO is not a status tier that gets upgrades unless you're on some random Wednesday morning low density RJ flight Yea lollin at the idea of silver getting you anything besides more miles, and occasionally comfort plus on non-peak flights
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# ? Dec 2, 2020 14:09 |
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like u are called a Flying Orchid in the system still so uh what do you expect
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# ? Dec 2, 2020 15:31 |
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Space Gopher posted:Every vaccine record or paperwork is going to be treated like the mark of the beast. That's one of the reasons the world should be thinking about how to create a verifiable record of vaccination - otherwise, anti-vaxxers, religious crazies, and lunatic right-wingers in general will just buy forged paperwork from some guy on Facebook who bought a counterfeit stamp and a box of yellow cards on aliexpress. We used to have this for smallpox (for those of you too young to have or know anyone with this, it used to leave a round circular scar on your upper arm at the injection site)
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# ? Dec 2, 2020 17:41 |
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Motronic posted:We used to have this for smallpox It was briefly in vogue again in the Iraq War II era when there was tubthumping about Iraq having biological weapons so there are some younger veterans with the distinctive scar.
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# ? Dec 2, 2020 18:32 |
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The Big Jesus posted:Yea lollin at the idea of silver getting you anything besides more miles, and occasionally comfort plus on non-peak flights I mean status is status? All the cc companies partnering with airlines certainly gave way too many perks from my perspective. I used to almost always be part of the early boarding group now it seems that everyone else is there too and they're not even frequent travelers just folks who took the cc deal and used it for a cheaper trip.
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# ? Dec 3, 2020 02:10 |
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Gabriel S. posted:Feel to correct me here but I'm under the impression blockchain could be used to implement chain-of-custody making it impossible or extremely difficult to show fake vaccinations, test results or better yet health records. we already know how to do unforgeable chain of custody with chained certificate signatures. this is, in fact, how all encryption works on the web. blockchain is stupid. all it does is replace publically attested certificates with pseudo anonymous certificates (which you probably don't want to trust, if we are being honest) at the cost of a lot of orders of magnitude of complexity and cost edit: sorry i saw "blockchain" and entered a fugue state and was unable to resist posting the talent deficit fucked around with this message at 03:49 on Dec 3, 2020 |
# ? Dec 3, 2020 03:39 |
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So AA is sent me 3 500 mile certs as a promotion. Being Plat Pro those are kind of limited in utility for me. But there are apparently there are other things they are giving away to various elites.
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# ? Dec 3, 2020 17:22 |
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Thomamelas posted:So AA is sent me 3 500 mile certs as a promotion. Being Plat Pro those are kind of limited in utility for me. But there are apparently there are other things they are giving away to various elites. I got 4
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# ? Dec 3, 2020 19:13 |
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I got 2 as a lowly gold. They'll go nicely with the 47 I already have that I can never use at the bottom of the poo poo list.
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# ? Dec 3, 2020 19:51 |
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FunOne posted:I got 2 as a lowly gold. They'll go nicely with the 47 I already have that I can never use at the bottom of the poo poo list. Same. I bet I can use them on MKE-ORD, but I doubt they have a lot of utility beyond that, especially in the After Times™. That said, it's a pretty clear ploy to beef up Q1 bookings so we'll see how that works out for them.
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# ? Dec 3, 2020 20:22 |
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Cacafuego posted:I got 4 So there thing yesterday said three but four ended up in my account. Giving me 7 I don't need.
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# ? Dec 3, 2020 20:29 |
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Delta is straight up ignoring their aisle seat policy on regional jets to make holiday money (95% normal capacity) and will gently remind people who are coughing to wear their mask an indefinite number of times with no consequence. I'm very glad I busted out an N95 I had from work c. 2019 and shaved off my beard. I'm refusing to travel by air at this point unless a major plant is going to be totally non-operational without someone there asap or if someone is likely to die. On the plus side a flight attendant was like yeah, the dude you're next to is obviously grody as gently caress and wiping his face and poo poo after licking his hand (?) after 30 seconds of being seated, feel free to sit anywhere else, I don't blame you. corn haver fucked around with this message at 08:34 on Dec 20, 2020 |
# ? Dec 19, 2020 07:09 |
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AA denied my miles from a recent trip to Taiwan on Cathay.
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# ? Dec 19, 2020 09:31 |
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This is a nightmare. https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/united-cdc-death-man-flight-florida-74810741 quote:United Airlines has given information about other passengers to federal health officials after a man who possibly had coronavirus-like symptoms died shortly after being on a flight, the airline said Friday.
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# ? Dec 19, 2020 19:39 |
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smackfu posted:This is a nightmare. I'm honestly more surprised it's taken this long for something like this to happen/hit the news.
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# ? Dec 19, 2020 19:43 |
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Motronic posted:I'm honestly more surprised it's taken this long for something like this to happen/hit the news. People have been openly lieing about tests the whole time and posting about it after the fact on social media but that hasn't gotten much coverage. A guy dieing gets clicks.
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# ? Dec 21, 2020 12:50 |
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Thoguh posted:People have been openly lieing about tests the whole time and posting about it after the fact on social media That’s depressing to think about. gently caress.
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# ? Dec 22, 2020 04:41 |
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Mandalay posted:That’s depressing to think about. gently caress. All the people who were assholes when you traveled before are still assholes, only now they have a fresh topic as an outlet for their assholery.
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# ? Dec 22, 2020 11:17 |